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mangaronis

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Mar 23, 2019
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Fuck,i dont care about sex scene,i just want know why his mom left him 7years.The games important part is this.If Lora just for money to be a couresan,i wii be disappointed.Beacuse its convention.i think the game cant be complete,so dev just tell the reason why she gone 7 years,i will support you for money.
maybe he always planned for this update to also take 7 years to get released
 

MrDL

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Nov 11, 2017
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Holy shit I can't believe it's been over a year since the last update, some minor lip service with Patreon updates shouldn't be enough to avoid a game getting the abandoned tag.

Sucks because this was one few games here that I remained interested in continuing the story with.
 

Nubian king

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Jan 25, 2021
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ttll If your game is narratively intense why not release it in a text style like that game(seeds of chaos) with blank scenes or maybe only include the important renders that are necessary for the narrative then later add the rest of the CGs when they are complete.
release the updates in alpha -->beta--> complete version.
 
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DanThaMan

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Jun 25, 2017
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ttll If your game is narratively intense why not release it in a text style like that game(seeds of chaos) with blank scenes or maybe only include the important renders that are necessary for the narrative then later add the rest of the CGs when they are complete.
release the updates in alpha -->beta--> complete version.
So what you are saying is the dev should release a 'dialogue only' update, but i'd assume people only play this game for the amazing render quality and we will still be waiting over a year for each update.
 

Grizloy

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So what you are saying is the dev should release a 'dialogue only' update, but i'd assume people only play this game for the amazing render quality and we will still be waiting over a year for each update.
Let's be honest - there are tons of games with amazing-unique-marvelous-etc renders, but there's only a few games that present players with a real "story", and CI is one of such games (because instead of a usual cheap porn-plot it presents players with a psychological drama about two broken people). If this game was a text-only, it still would've been amazing.
And so, gonna fix it for you -
but i'd assume people only pay for this game for the amazing render quality
Since patreon rewards include wallpapers in 10$+ tiers, and author makes ~1200$+ per month with ~140 patrons, it's safe to say that majority of them are mostly there for these wallpapers he makes.
 

BigBrotherrrr

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Well, I'm sorry for not being a fan of 3dcg art, I guess?.. Simply mentioned that based on the opinions of people in every second 3dcg VN thread praising the art quality.
Haha, I misinterpreted your post, I thought you were saying that there's no point in obsessing over this particular game because "go play something else", like many people say, which, every time, pisses me off (because it's literally the opposite). But regarding that idea, about transforming to text-based game, I don't think it makes much sense, because it's not like he can't make or can't make time for making renders, it's that he doesn't make them. He doesn't want to, he is not interested. Especially now that he knows that not a single adequate person would support him, and he's left with only a bunch of <people_who_support_ttll> whom he despises. So switching to text-based wouldn't solve any problems.
 

Nubian king

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Jan 25, 2021
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So what you are saying is the dev should release a 'dialogue only' update, but i'd assume people only play this game for the amazing render quality and we will still be waiting over a year for each update.
Not entirely or maybe include the important renders first, at least the updates will be quicker, this game screams of being abandoned, I doubt ttll himself or the patrons will have any patience as time goes on, such is human nature.
 
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BigBrotherrrr

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Not entirely or maybe include the important renders first, at least the updates will be quicker, this game screams of being abandoned, I doubt ttll himself or the patrons will have any patience as time goes on, such is human nature.
What makes you think it will quicken the updates? Do you think that he can't release the update until there is an enormous amount of renders which take years to make or each render is so complex that it requires a week or so to make? The very first release he made in less than a year, according to his own words, the second one took 2 months. He made a poll around that time about how much time each update should take, 2 months was the result. So, he has an average speed of work. The average is the quality of his renders as well. So, like I said above, it won't quicken the updates. I believe, the only thing that could help in this situation is unsubscribing from his patreon and mass reporting him there (supposedly, it worked with Icstor, his big brother).
 

Duriel

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Aug 25, 2017
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I believe, the only thing that could help in this situation is unsubscribing from his patreon and mass reporting him there (supposedly, it worked with Icstor, his big brother).
No matter how much good faith we wanna put into people, or believe that our choice is the right one and we'll surely see a return.
Money will always be the main appeal to the majority of the developers, so its only natural for them to plan smart or less smart choices in order to delay and take advantage of such system.

So Yeah, unfortunately cutting off what should be meant to support and motivate them would be the only driving force to actually get them to work, else they'll blatantly and shamelessly keep taking advantage of the generosity of the fans.
 

Kai Andersen

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Money will always be the main appeal to the majority of the developers, so its only natural for them to plan smart or less smart choices in order to delay and take advantage of such system.
Duriel, "ttll" is a Russian developer, and this Russian, money is despised, as a rule, it is driven by an idea, so I doubt that it can be pressured through money.:unsure:
 
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