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Hell no, you don't get to be sassy after not knowing someone for 20 years, I hated that sister. Also fck Susan. I wish I had option to never go and meet them.
Perhaps this isn't the game for you then. Seeing as the plot is based on receiving the phone call, going to the hospital to meet the birth mother, and finding out the MC has a twin sister. You essentially hate the very premise of the game.
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I hate concept of it that doesn't mean I hate the game. I actually like the game. Especially long inner monologues. One of the rare ones I assume. Hey I watch horror movies that doesn't mean I like scaring people in night. You focus on main story, I focus on other parts of game.
I am just surprised that you'd want to continue with a game that you don't like the two characters that the MC will be bonding with as the game continues (supposedly, CZ is reworking the beginning). I figure that there are a lot of games out there that you might like better. I hope that the two of them grow on you if you continue the game.
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Well it seems a bit unfair hating sister just for being nice. But hey, I tend to dislike almost all "obviously in love childhood friends". I think Nina from Love Season being another exception, besides Ayana. That girl is great. But I digress again.
To each their own. Ayana is cute though. Maybe worth to stay for her.
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So you basically want to be a dick to a dying woman and a girl who's just trying to be nice?
I know it's fictional, but seriously, no empathy at all? That's just sad.
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To be fair, I don't think the mother and the sister are comparable. While I don't hate the mother and it remains to see why, she did I abandon her children. You could argue either way.So you basically want to be a dick to a dying woman and a girl who's just trying to be nice?
I know it's fictional, but seriously, no empathy at all? That's just sad.
But I cannot understand the problem with the sister. She kind of hit pretty much all the good buttons for me...
Succinctly put! I thought the same thing though. Why so angry that a dying woman wants to meet her son beforehand? Why so mad that the twin sister the MC never knew existed is so happy she has a long lost brother? That's two of the most important people in the game (Ayana is the third imo) that they hate after two chapters. WTF?So you basically want to be a dick to a dying woman and a girl who's just trying to be nice?
I know it's fictional, but seriously, no empathy at all? That's just sad.
Well, abandoned may not be true. We don't know yet the circumstances behind her giving the children up for adoption.
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I agree. That is why I say we don't know the reason. But my point was if I was MC I can see myself going either way. Maybe angry. Maybe happy. Maybe sad. I don't know.
But the sister is a totally different issue. She was great in my eyes.
Yeah, I feel like the MC reacted in a realistic manner. He was very unsure about going to see her and only because of Ayana and his dad did he end up going. I liked that he seemed to be a bit shell shocked and quiet the entire time.
I am curious about the rework that CZ is doing. As it stands now Ayana seems like the only viable romantic partner, I wonder if that will change or if this will remove the incest possibilities due to the patreon rules.
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Yes, specially given how his personality is being showcased, his behavior made a lot of sense to me.
I like Ayana. I don't like their relationship as a couple. But I don't think there is any need to cancel the sister as a LI. It is not gonna happen anytime soon and when it does it can always be unlocked by a patch. Second, Haley''s story already has them fucking and patch is needed, even in Patreon.
While I don't think that is the safe way to do it, and I do think that dev should start looking into a way to masquerade the incest, cutting sister for me would be a major blow. After all, the story kind of starts at the moment you are gonna met your sister and mom. But we may need to wait to see what happens. But you are right that the incest is gonna become harder, as they are blood related at the moment in patreon.
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I would like the sister if she wasn't so clingy. If I had a long lost sister showed up out of nowhere, I wouldn't just let her hang on me. I judge sister for being clingy after 20 years. Also I really don't care about circumstances of giving for adoption, you GAVE up your childs. The end. They are not yours anymore. Blood doesn't make you family. If Chris hasn't learn his mother, he wouldn't have pain of losing one in his heart. You can't feel sad for those don't exist.
Yeah, I am curious to see what CZ does. I have to say this is one of my favorite new games and I am excited and nervous about a rework because of it. But with the Paypal/patreon rules I wouldn't be surprised if part of the rework is adding a section where the player defines the relationships between each of the characters. Pure speculation, I honestly have no expectations when it comes to the rework.
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The idea isn't to remove anything from the original in the revamp tbh. Sure, dialogues change up and stuff, but essentially the scenes are meant to be the same with some new scenes added as well. All relationships will remain the same. I'm kinda anxious about Patreon's restrictions, so I might have players name their relationship with Charlotte in the revamp just to be safe. Patch creation to unlock incest isn't something I know how to do, but could ask other devs about
I'm sort of safe right now I'd imagine cause the MC and Charlotte haven't done anything and there isn't any incestuous relationship implied in the game yet (And there won't be for a while), but still, better safe than sorry.
Yeah, I'd think the naming relationships route is the safest thing to implement.
And I have faith in you to revamp the story, I fell in love with it the first time so I am actually excited to see the tweaks that you make.
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Well if you are going to go in that path, which as I said I hope you do, I think is better to start arranging it from now, than to wait till incest happens.
The patch unlocking incest usually works because the unpatch relationships are "friend, landlord, roommate". In this case, you would need to cancel a part of the tree in which you romance the sister. But that maybe harder to do that just letting people name their relationships.
While it would be harder to explain why Charlotte is insterested in MC if the player call her "just a stupid bitch mc's mother whose name I cannot remember so MOM knows" it would be their fault.
You could probably do something as MOM (cant remember her name) is MC's "x" (where player could put mother). MC will sometimes friendly call her "x1" (here players could write "mom"). Charlote is MOM's daughter (this part fixed), making her MC's "y" (where player could write sister). MC friendly name for Charlote is "y1" (to put something like "sis"). That would make MC, Charlotte's "w". But Charlotte is not any kind of "y" (what player input for y before). She is actually her "z" (where the player could put twin) "y".
So that every time you want to emphasize they are twin you have the word defined too. But it could be from patreons point of view "best" for friend.
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"Blood doesn't make you family" <--- Couldn't agree more. Part of the reason for this story honestly. But I also believe family is what you make it and that's Chris' struggle right now. He has blood now and the people around him (Ayana and Jeff) want him to make the most of it. Susan isn't meant to be any sort of antagonist here and I honestly don't think the reason why she put them up for adoption is something of a mystery either. MC/Chris hints at this during his talk with his dad. I mean, why else does anyone really put a child up for adoption? That's his thought process currently.
But none of this is meant to fuel hate or neglect in the MC. Will the player have a chance to react? Sure, but not in the sense of revenge or anything like that.
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Just putting my feet in their shoes for a moment, I feel like my overriding feeling would be one of confusion. I honestly wouldn't know what to feel in that situation, but I know that the last thing I'd feel is hate, or anger, or annoyance.
And yeah, Charlotte's awesome. Honestly one of the most stunning character models I've seen and I can't wait to see more of that adorable face.
See, this is where Patreon's restrictive rules suck. They say that they don't allow, "fringe sexual fetish creations, such as incest", but yet they also say they will allow it if it's in the right context, such as, "survivor stories or fiction such as Game of Thrones or Lolita". But surely the right context is whatever the creator determines, right? Like with this story, it seems very much different to the typical ones and I can see it has some real emotional depth to it. So that, to me, should make this game safe because it isn't your average fuck-em-all incest VN. But no doubt someone would still report it out of spite or malice and that would be wrong, so now you have to make it "Patreon safe" to avoid that and thus alter your creative vision.
It's not right and while I have the utmost confidence you'l make it work, I still don't like the fact that you have to do it because of Patreon, or more accurately, the payment companies that made them change their content guidelines.
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It's been a minute since my last dev report, so I'll just make one now, though I don't have much to report.
I've started rendering for the game a little over a week ago. It's gonna be a little more complicated than I anticipated because I recently revamped the MC's appearance as well and gave him an updated place to stay. I say complicated because I originally wasn't going to update every render, but now I think I kinda have to if I wanna keep things consistent. I'd rather not cut corners here. It will take time, but it will ultimately be worth it.
Just for reminder, the revamp is all the chapters I've worked on so far. So I'm essentially re-rendering everything. As I said though, I cut down some of that render time so the most time-consuming thing should just be setting up the scenes to my liking. Currently, about 40 renders deep and going. I'll have a preview for you guys soon.
That's all for now really. I could go on, but I'd rather keep this as brief as I can.
In the meantime, enjoy this Charlotte render.
I've been working on implementing more HDRIs into my images. I'd like some renders in Connected to use some of these for outdoor settings, but I'm not too sure how that would work most times as multiple angles would most likely be used. But I'll see what works and what doesn't.
Until next post!