because we've been disappointed many times from porn game makers (watching angry on EROMANCER). i have no reliable statistics , my feelings say 90 % of porn games get uncompleted. Thats why its hard to trust Developers in general .
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well them lets pack our shit and leave the porn comunity, because 90% of the artists/devs that use patreon or similar, don't work properly, they all just sit their asses all day expending the money people give them, to at the of the month they quickly do a shit drawing/animation/update and say they had some trouble with something lol
edit : i was thinking in what Honest pirate said and what i just wrote, and thats actually very true lol, sad but true, i don't know why i did defend enlit, he is the one making money not me lol.
and do you guys remenber when devs and artists didn't had patreon/substar ? oohh those are gold times, when they actually worked to produce content to earn money.
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You defended him because you're what we call a "white knight": someone who has an uncontrollable urge to unironically take time of their life to defend some internet figure for no self gain at all. Do you realize that this isn't enlits sanctuary, or any devs for that matter? They aren't above criticism. Some people simply point out some issues that have a basis in reality, they have a right to do so.
Now see, you also have a right to counter-argue against those posts, that is fine. But instead of simply posting level-headed counter arguments, you just... out of fucking nowhere (and in a fit of delicious irony) you started bitching, you mentioned belle delphine and porn?! lol what? Like... who asked? Is she even going to make porn now? We don't even care lol?... seems like you do care tough, nice freudian slip there my friend heh
Hopefully you realize the ironty of yourself... That you came to "protec some devs honor" as if we where rioting and demonizing him, and therefore in turn you started bitching yourself and lost any sliver of validity in your posts.
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See it on his Webpage. And if are you kindly: Give him some friendly Feedback.
nah my point was valid, just because i said i don't know why i defended him makes what i said invalid, just because he "abandoned" a pretty much finished game, don't mean he is gonna abanadon every game he is making, like enlit said, the code was a mess, i'm a dev myself, i know how bad is to keep fixing something that is done poorly.
and no, i'm very very far from being a white knight lol, just because i defended him don't mean i'm one, i just defended him because people was saying He Is GoInG tO qUiT tHiS gAmE ToO, and didn't even saw the other game he finished lol.
I found some options:
Press F2 for HEX field activation and deactivation.
F3 does...my english is not good enough. It changes the colours or something. Maybe the reason for some black screens.
F4 gives you the list with ALL animations. my game startet with it and thats why i didnt saw the 3 options behind it.
F6 makes the game window a little bit smaller and big again.
(a option for infinity health would be great, just my opinion.)
Press F2 for HEX field activation and deactivation.
F3 does...my english is not good enough. It changes the colours or something. Maybe the reason for some black screens.
F4 gives you the list with ALL animations. my game startet with it and thats why i didnt saw the 3 options behind it.
F6 makes the game window a little bit smaller and big again.
(a option for infinity health would be great, just my opinion.)
Seriously dude, I'm not even a huge fan of Enlit anymore (Not really interested at all in the current game), but he has finished another game and only dropped one game that was fairly complete. I'm all for warning about shitty devs, feel free to check my comments, but this is far too premature. If he drops another game, sure, feel free to shit on him, lol. Right now he's like 1/2 for game completions and still updates somewhat regularly.
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What got my goat wasn't really a project getting dropped. It was the disparity between what state the game was really in, and how close to being done it got called. A few snippets of grindy, disconnected, half baked content, graphics that somehow run worse than most modern games despite looking pretty bad, and just a general lack of polish on basically any level. But sure, 95%ish done, that seems right.
- Jun 23, 2019
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Exactly my point, thank you!
Sure we can technically call a heap of unoptimized and stitched-together unpolished gameplay sections a "completed" game, and say that it's about 95% done and call it a day... yeah yeah fair enough.
But it's undeniable that at the very least, heroine rescue team could use a WHOLE LOT of polish both to its gameplay and the game engine itself.
And that's the key here: people arguing for Enlits case is focusing too much on the "percentage of completion" but thats a deceiving metric and they seem to just ignore the that the current state of that game is basic at best, and this is what we are simply cautioning people that this is the dev's precedent that he set.
Exactly my point, thank you!
Sure we can technically call a heap of unoptimized and stitched-together unpolished gameplay sections a "completed" game, and say that it's about 95% done and call it a day... yeah yeah fair enough.
But it's undeniable that at the very least, heroine rescue team could use a WHOLE LOT of polish both to its gameplay and the game engine itself.
And that's the key here: people arguing for Enlits case is focusing too much on the "percentage of completion" but thats a deceiving metric and they seem to just ignore the that the current state of that game is basic at best, and this is what we are simply cautioning people that this is the dev's precedent that he set.
Again, the precedent is that he's finished one game already and not another. That's not the end of the world just yet. Heroine Rumble was completed. Ignoring that fact is being disingenuous and helps nobody. I also don't think the dev has claimed that Heroine Rescue was almost complete. The game version alone points to it being largely unfinished (v0.641). You're basically arguing against the dev for something some random person said about the game (The 95% complete bit). Unless the dev actually gave that 95% complete message themselves anyways, I haven't seen it. Seems like something a fan just pulled out of their ass.
I actually haven't been following the state of the current game much, so I can't talk much about that. I just saw there was a rather large update posted like, last week. Kinda made the posts here calling out the dev for being slow/not updating the game in forever seem odd from my perspective. I've complained about the current game myself in another thread, so it's not like I'm super fond of the dev or anything. Just trying to keep things honest here. Plenty of terrible devs that deserve to be shit on, I just don't think we're at that point yet with Enlit. Who knows, maybe in a year I'll change my mind, lol.
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This is all very interesting but how about we, like, discuss the game?
First off, I share the current pessimism. I liked HRT's concept, despite its numerous flaws.
However, Enlit3d has been working hard on CATC these last months, with updates to show for it; he even explains what gets him motivated: https://f95zone.to/threads/heroine-rescue-team-v0-641-enlit3d.12478/post-4739436
It's worth noting, that the new engine will possibly be used as groundwork for his next game (HRT2??).
Compared to the first versions, CATC has seen a lot of progress. It's gonna be HELL to balance the mechanics, but the cards/deck system looks pretty interesting, and might allow some interesting tactics. I see a lot of potential here, despite my prejudice, and something good might come out as a logical result of 'a dev doing what he likes how he likes'.
The sex is better implemented in the battles than before, though there are few ways to choose what you see (or don't want to see). Currently there are too few characters and situations to guess how that'll turn out.
It's not been too long since the project started, so we'll know this year for sure which direction this is going... because it does look like it's going somewhere
First off, I share the current pessimism. I liked HRT's concept, despite its numerous flaws.
However, Enlit3d has been working hard on CATC these last months, with updates to show for it; he even explains what gets him motivated: https://f95zone.to/threads/heroine-rescue-team-v0-641-enlit3d.12478/post-4739436
It's worth noting, that the new engine will possibly be used as groundwork for his next game (HRT2??).
Compared to the first versions, CATC has seen a lot of progress. It's gonna be HELL to balance the mechanics, but the cards/deck system looks pretty interesting, and might allow some interesting tactics. I see a lot of potential here, despite my prejudice, and something good might come out as a logical result of 'a dev doing what he likes how he likes'.
The sex is better implemented in the battles than before, though there are few ways to choose what you see (or don't want to see). Currently there are too few characters and situations to guess how that'll turn out.
It's not been too long since the project started, so we'll know this year for sure which direction this is going... because it does look like it's going somewhere
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Just curious if any of you complaining supported Enlit. I have multiple times and have yet to complain.
Why would they support him if they are dissatisfied with his work? Where is any logic in that?
And before you ask, they are discussing the game for the same reason that i just checked this thread: because this game seemed interesting at the first glance.
I was a bit skeptical about the transition to the card system and everything else, but I got to admit the game felt way too sandbox-y before.
I tried 6.3 and I'm really enjoying the card system. There are some elements that still require a little bit of balance.
I've seen some comments about the fact that he hasn't released any new animations, I guess that's fair criticism, but you can't claim that he hasn't done a lot of work on this game in the past 6 months.
I think most Patreon projects just turn into a disappointing experience if you support them on a monthly basis because there's just not enough new content to make the game feel any different. I tend to wait for a milestone in its development that catches my eye and then support for a month at a time to check the latest version.
I tried 6.3 and I'm really enjoying the card system. There are some elements that still require a little bit of balance.
I've seen some comments about the fact that he hasn't released any new animations, I guess that's fair criticism, but you can't claim that he hasn't done a lot of work on this game in the past 6 months.
I think most Patreon projects just turn into a disappointing experience if you support them on a monthly basis because there's just not enough new content to make the game feel any different. I tend to wait for a milestone in its development that catches my eye and then support for a month at a time to check the latest version.
nevermind, just hit F3 until gets solvedoh pal i got the same error and nobody knows how to fix it
Only two characters available in this version? I defeat some girls at dungeon but don't know how to recruit them.