Java Corrupted Saviors [Release 54] [CSDev]
- Aug 31, 2021
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I never thought I was actually gonna comment on this site. I only made this account so i could download games.
I saw this game recommended on several posts, and i was very skeptic about a text based game like this. It seemed outdated from just the pictures. But i tried it and now im goddamn hooked. I've been playing for a couple days now and i barely understand shit. I've been playing cheatmode which makes the experience a bit more monotonous. But i still very much enjoy it. I love that there are different paths you can take to achieve victory and that even after i've played cheatmode that there are still things i dont understand. With almost every game i've ever played in my life i've more often than not figured out the entirety of the game after a couple hours of playing. But now with multiple days on this im only now starting to understand the core mechanics.
It's a new experience. And I never thought i would find it on this site, in this genre, and in this game. There is so much future potential aswell which just makes me more excited to see what can be done in future iterations. 10/10.
I saw this game recommended on several posts, and i was very skeptic about a text based game like this. It seemed outdated from just the pictures. But i tried it and now im goddamn hooked. I've been playing for a couple days now and i barely understand shit. I've been playing cheatmode which makes the experience a bit more monotonous. But i still very much enjoy it. I love that there are different paths you can take to achieve victory and that even after i've played cheatmode that there are still things i dont understand. With almost every game i've ever played in my life i've more often than not figured out the entirety of the game after a couple hours of playing. But now with multiple days on this im only now starting to understand the core mechanics.
It's a new experience. And I never thought i would find it on this site, in this genre, and in this game. There is so much future potential aswell which just makes me more excited to see what can be done in future iterations. 10/10.
Ye,.... I had the entire site's resources occupied trying to explain whats going on for days.
I've long since given up on trying to understand the game - so I just play around
with full cheat enabled(without that I would have discarded the game long ago).
I wonder what the % is of people understanding the game fully vs people who would like to,
but are completely nuked by the obfuscated functionality.
Don't play with cheats, that's a game abouth math porn, not just plain regular one. It's not THAT hard to understand if you try to. Read some step-by-step tutorials some guys posted here and think about some of their moves if you don't get them at the first glance.
I'm gonna go the other way and say play however you want to, if cheats let you close the game feeling more satisfied then by all means, go for it.
- Nov 9, 2022
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Speaking of this being a game about math; does anyone have a good rule of thumb for when it's useful to use a Forsaken or Suppressor/Defiler/Punisher Commander vs. just using a Surround Commander? Outside of breaking final vulnerabilities, or baiting Detonations obviously.
I keep finding that a regular Commander can more reliably set up longer duration Surrounds after the first Capture, in addition to Capturing multiple Chosen at once to cut down on trauma reduction from Rally, Distract or Striptease, and reducing the Extermination rate to let you get more even more Surrounds before the battle ends.
How can I make the extra damage to one or two circumstances measure up against that, short of using Completion to just nail all four right out the gate?
I keep finding that a regular Commander can more reliably set up longer duration Surrounds after the first Capture, in addition to Capturing multiple Chosen at once to cut down on trauma reduction from Rally, Distract or Striptease, and reducing the Extermination rate to let you get more even more Surrounds before the battle ends.
How can I make the extra damage to one or two circumstances measure up against that, short of using Completion to just nail all four right out the gate?
You can't. Ordinary commanders straight up better outside of some rare cases. I heard some use low EE forsaken before they get 5 EE commander, but I never found it all that useful. Main advantage of normal commanders is that you can use multiple of them at the same time, while with forsaken or defilers you can't. Even with Completion normal commander is still better for setups, it's just at that point you usually don't care anymore and want some fast fights to finish off some remaining vulns. But if you still need some big dmg, then normal commander it is.
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- Jul 14, 2018
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Mostly I agree. However there are instances, especially before you get networked consciousness where a defiler really helps because you don't have to spend turns telling them what to attack. They are much more tightly planned and sometimes take 2 or 3 reloads to get right.
Another time for it is after you get reality sealing, because now the extra turns from the ambush can be used to set up more damage multiplication.
And I find that when planning specific outcomes, using a punisher can be very useful for taking someone from 250-300% to in range of T5 break in one go. Though this can be difficult too.
That covers the exceptions to "just go with a surround demon" or "just send a forsaken".
I suppose there is also onr more flavor reason of doing so. If you want to take a virginity for yourself, you need to use a non standard commander.
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Forsaken also have the strict advantage that they can do unlimited captures.
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If you need help understand you can ask forum, lot people willing help if you’re confused. Also make sure check the guide.txt in folder
Trying out distortions and damn does tying to do multiples get tricky.
Anyways, was trying to get a temptation and an aversion distortion when I learned aversion requires a 10-turn orgy and apparently orgies seem to require all chosen to have the same defiler action? Never realized that before.
Anyways, did some digging and am I correct in assuming that triggering temptation first will 'lock' the chosen into that and let me trigger an orgy with the aversion path chosen without ruining one or did I just make a really bad choice and do I need to settle for one distortion?
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Ooookay never mind.
Apparently a t3 innocence break on a rival also causes an innocence break and I wasn't paying attention to friendships at all due to trying to hash out these distortions and... the chosen I'm trying do an aversion distortion has a rival who's about to hit a t3 innocence distortion.
So like... did I fuck up?
Anyways, was trying to get a temptation and an aversion distortion when I learned aversion requires a 10-turn orgy and apparently orgies seem to require all chosen to have the same defiler action? Never realized that before.
Anyways, did some digging and am I correct in assuming that triggering temptation first will 'lock' the chosen into that and let me trigger an orgy with the aversion path chosen without ruining one or did I just make a really bad choice and do I need to settle for one distortion?
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Ooookay never mind.
Apparently a t3 innocence break on a rival also causes an innocence break and I wasn't paying attention to friendships at all due to trying to hash out these distortions and... the chosen I'm trying do an aversion distortion has a rival who's about to hit a t3 innocence distortion.
So like... did I fuck up?
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Active distortions prevent automatic (T1, T3) breaks on forbidden vulns, but you still can do a manual forbidden break on T2. And yes, doing that will snap the chosen out of distortion.
However there is a trick specially for this case: orgy itself (adding the last chosen) is not considered a defiler and will not trigger a break even if done on forbidden vulnerability. The only catch is to raise necessary circumstance without triggering T1 break on not-yet-distorted girl.
And any non-confidence T3s can be postponed by simply never letting girl in question to get a turn on her own terms - try to keep her constantly surrounded/captured.
- Aug 31, 2021
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Oh yeah, I've read the majority of info on the forums already and read every guide file that was given. When I said that I barely understood shit i meant it as in "I do not know why I got here but I got here". I understand what I need to do to reach a certain conclusion but not necessarily why it works or the exact time it would take. Combined with things im sure I havent seen happen yet. I dont think the game is too complicated, but for me who has never really played this genre type before it gets confusing. Only other text-based game I've played was DoL but that one almost spoonfed you all the info.
For me, It's new. Which is what has really intrigued me. Since its been years since i last found a game genre that really suprised me in how unknowledgable i really was. Even more so that it came from a goddamn porn game. Last game would have had to been when i first got into the RTS genre with Starcraft 2 and that was about 6-7 years ago.
Even when I first tried out WoW for the first time back in november i still pretty much understood the core mechanics and systems in place by combining knowledge I had from other games. But my pre-existing knowledge isn't able to transfer over to this type of game. Which has made it more fun to try to learn. Even though i had to speed up the process by using cheats to get an overall image of the systems in place.
- Jul 14, 2018
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Another thing I noticed, is that a T3 break interferes with ANOTHER chosen's temptation distortion plan! This wasn't in the guide.txt and I think it should be added. Really messed with my plans.
Of course seeing what happens at a T3 break, it's specifically if you're trying temptation distort someone with a minor in morality, when the one with core in morality gets T3 broken. So I get how it could be confusing to put it in.
So I guess I can see the logic of not adding it in. Of course the game does warn you once someone is ready to break T3, but perhaps then it's too late.
One question: Can you get the temptation first and then break T3?
Same, I've read it all but something is not clicking for me. I managed to get a couple of wins with cheats, but still don't really understand the correct actions in most situations.
From other posts i figure there is something very basic I'm just overlooking, but haven't figured what that is yet.
Or I'm just being dumb.
Either way, I'll eventually figure it out.
So I have a problem, I am essentially being prompted, the button is highlighted leading me to press it, to meet two of my current Chosen in the back alley area and then to negotiate, however, this leads to a scenario where I have no option to continue after I have done so as my forsaken have no options. This leaves me with no way to pass time.
Do I just ignore the purple buttons and move on to the next battle?
Do I just ignore the purple buttons and move on to the next battle?
- Mar 20, 2019
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You should be able to, I've had scenarios where I've T3 broken a chosen too early before getting the distortion properly on one of her teammates and to counteract this, I would either retreat when I felt the chosen was going to break their T3 or always have them captured or surrounded so they never had a chance to use it. If you get the distortion off the same battle the T3 is broken you'll be fine
- Mar 20, 2019
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That certainly seems like a bug from what you've described, could you upload your save and detail the process step-by-step?
The save is actually a save from the thread with a tiny bit of progression and a massive amount of cheated energy via Cheat Engine. The one I've been using should be slot 1, but in case it is different, look for AlexCor in the name when loading.
All I did was progress normally one or two days while cheating up the evil energy value to get everything I could for each battle.
On the day where the save is set, the info button was highlighted purple, leading to two of the current Chosen in the save also being highlighted, Royal and Truth.
I selected each, hit approach, sent the body Foxy to each, progressed each as far as I could since I can't get their barriers down, and either they flew off automatically or I ended it myself manually with the button for that when they started saying they had enough.
After both were ended by either flying away or manually hitting the button, I had no option that allowed me to proceed with either Forsaken training or battles.
It did say I would not be able to attack when I hit negotiate, but I should still have other options like training.