Java Corrupted Saviors [Release 58] [CSDev]
Will there be a difficulty setting for campaign in the future though? I like challenge for the same reasons that you've listed above, so using cheats to make myself op feels boring and unrewarding, but the base game difficulty still feels a bit too "sweaty" for me. Maybe a difficulty that gives a bit more items, or reduces requirements for achievement, or maybe faster forsaken training? That way you still need to work to get stronger, and chosen will still kick your ass in the beginning, but it's a bit more chill since you scale better.
Also any chance for a "skip first x loops" / "faster campaign" options? Part of the reason why the game feels hard/stressful is because losing in campaign means losing all your progress and being reset to loop 1, invalidating all the time and effort put into achievements and forsaken training. Maybe a "checkpoint" like system where each time you get to a certain loop (i.e. 3,5,7, etc.) you unlock an option to start campaign from that loop with a random assortment of items and some achievements already unlocked? Or maybe point based system where you are given points based on how far into the campaign you start and you can choose what you want to start with? That'll also make difficulty settings easier, since you can just make different difficulties give different amount of starting points. Being able to start with a custom
Thanks for all the work on this amazing game!
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This game have saves. Just make a save on the 1st day of each loop and keep it. That said, separate save files for each save would be nice. I reach hundreds of saves pretty quickly and navigating them is a hassle, while deleting them one by one is even more of a hassle.
Yeah I do that too. I guess I failed to explain it right since English is not my native language, so "checkpoint" might have been a wrong word to use (although I'm not sure what would be a good another good word for it, "quick start"?). I meant that I wish getting to certain loops unlocked option to start from that loop in the future, in case you want to start a new campaign (i.e. because a new update dropped) but don't want to start from zero (cause achievement grind sucks and you wanna play campaign with advanced specie chosen without having to slog through the first couple loops).
There is more errors than that: Rebel seems to be female, but "After waking up he fled in a straight line all the way out of city...", while Vassal seems to be male, but "Vassal kept his wits about him for as long as he could, but when he broke, she broke hard.".
I noticed those across the board, especially when referring to male Chosen like the Vassal in that screenshot. That one is in basically every aspect of the game whenever male Vassal is involved, nearly every point that calls a pronoun has it happen, sometimes even in a repeated scene that called the correct pronoun the last time.
Yeah, I gave up on the single play attempt and started a campaign once I discovered a hotkey to enable cheats from the start in campaign. Now I am trying to get the same three Chosen through different paths to see which one I want them to take before using campaign's second and later loops to generate family for each of them, intentionally discarding the Chosen in the other loops that don't have this connection.
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Dem, how do you exactly fulfill the condition "Deal Some Expo Damage while allies are surrounded"?
I tried surrounding allies and that Chosen last then humiliate to trigger Expo but condition is still not fulfilled.
Tried Surrounding the chosen then surrounding the allies and using Humiliate on all of them to trigger Expo but still not fulfilled.
How much is this "Some" tbh?
Edit: Nevermind, fulfilled the condition with a Lv 8 Expo lel.
I tried surrounding allies and that Chosen last then humiliate to trigger Expo but condition is still not fulfilled.
Tried Surrounding the chosen then surrounding the allies and using Humiliate on all of them to trigger Expo but still not fulfilled.
How much is this "Some" tbh?
Edit: Nevermind, fulfilled the condition with a Lv 8 Expo lel.
Wait, is aversion supposed to completely reverse a Chosen's personality as a Forsaken? Example, my Fury generated as being the type to always want to be the one getting served, but when I broke her resolve in a triple resolve break and then met her in her personal chamber, she was eager to the point of already being naked and immediately acting like a bottom when all I did was lay myself down.
EDIT: Also, trying to find a path in which no virginities, anal included, are lost. So far, in every attempt, either:
1. I take their virginity or sodomize them in battle because of the 10k HATE threshold
2. The thralls do it during a surround because of the same
3. One of the Chosen goes in to rape another after battle, either already having been deflowered in battle or deflowering herself right in front of the Chosen to be raped (double dildo if female, her own fingers if futa transformed by slime) in preparation, only Rebel doing it to Fury so far, the meek and wimpy Vassal doesn't seem to be capable.
EDIT: I got two virgin Forsaken on a tempt (basically one hitting all three in the final battle because the threshold on pleasure to use tempt was so low and I had the items for instant 10k to make 18% resolve per level instant win), the problem is they still got penetrated anally, which means total virginity loss for Vassal, who never once had text about being penetrated.
EDIT: Also, trying to find a path in which no virginities, anal included, are lost. So far, in every attempt, either:
1. I take their virginity or sodomize them in battle because of the 10k HATE threshold
2. The thralls do it during a surround because of the same
3. One of the Chosen goes in to rape another after battle, either already having been deflowered in battle or deflowering herself right in front of the Chosen to be raped (double dildo if female, her own fingers if futa transformed by slime) in preparation, only Rebel doing it to Fury so far, the meek and wimpy Vassal doesn't seem to be capable.
EDIT: I got two virgin Forsaken on a tempt (basically one hitting all three in the final battle because the threshold on pleasure to use tempt was so low and I had the items for instant 10k to make 18% resolve per level instant win), the problem is they still got penetrated anally, which means total virginity loss for Vassal, who never once had text about being penetrated.
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No worries. The text is very good. I normally wouldn't bother reporting typos, but there are so few that it's just worth doing.
Wait what, what does this mean? How will this interfere with another chosen?
Edit: Why does grind cause dignity break but not humiliation? I assumed that t1 breaks happen when that specific circumstance is at risk of being close to 10k, but grind doesn't even rise EXPO. I really find this super wonky, like what am I even supposed to do with this chosen, not use grind ever again even though HATE is basically the only circumstance she is weak to? Also why was she using both violence and begging even though I've only used pummel and not grind?
Edit: Why does grind cause dignity break but not humiliation? I assumed that t1 breaks happen when that specific circumstance is at risk of being close to 10k, but grind doesn't even rise EXPO. I really find this super wonky, like what am I even supposed to do with this chosen, not use grind ever again even though HATE is basically the only circumstance she is weak to? Also why was she using both violence and begging even though I've only used pummel and not grind?
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Each action is tied to two circs and breaks also linked to them. You can see it from guide:
Violence: Used against Grind and Pummel. Causes Morality Break.
Service: Used against Caress and Humiliate. Causes Innocence Break.
Begging: Used against Caress and Pummel. Causes Confidence Break.
Hiding: Used against Grind and Humiliate. Causes Dignity Break.
So Grind is tied to Hate and Expo, and Humiliate to Plea and Expo. So with Grind you can break Mor or Dig if the sum of them is close to 10k, and with Humiliate Inn and Dig. At least that is my explaination of why you usually see breaks at 3.5-4k circ dmg, instead of like 7-8k. But you can also break when a single one is close to 10k. Like you can't break Dig with Humiliate yet, because Plea is over 10k and Expo is far from 10k, but if you raise Expo to like 7k and surround again Humiliate will break it. Then again, that's just from my experience, not 100% sure how that works.
That first message means getting that Chosen to do the thing they would if the others are surrounded will result in a morality break, which will invalidate the distortion in progress on that Chosen. Distortions are not an easy thing to pull off without sometimes invalidating them, especially rampancy and negotiation in my experience, though temptation and aversion were fairly easy compared to the others.
Except the chosen that is having a t3 break is Stalwart, and the chosen who is at risk of failing Distortion is Triumph who isn't anywhere close to t3 since she is a superior chosen.
T3 break causes a scene with automatic T1 break on another girl unless she's on a distortion path already.
Ah, you're right, I missed the names because I have never seen it (red text) directly name any Chosen and was just looking for what was breaking as a result of what actions resulting from what cause. So yeah, Triumph will lose their distortion as a result of a break from an action taken by Stalwart when at least one other Chosen is surrounded, though I have never seen these trigger with less than two active surrounds unless there was no third Chosen yet and even then it was not during an active distortion.
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Some questions about forsaken:
1) Is spamming nothing but hostility training options the best way to get expertise? Since hostility buffs future actions by 40%, I assumed I want to do them starting from the worst and moving to the best so that by the time the strongest expertise gain hits I have max bonus from hostility. I should probably also try to get options with disgrace as a second corruption for stamina reduction, and avoid deviancy not to ruin the bonus from hostility.
And then when hate expertise is super high, can I just use other training options to shift all that hate expertise towards a combat style I'd rather prefer? (I.e. train nothing but hostility, then shift from hate to plea/inju style)
2) Do consent bonuses from loved ones stack? I.e. is there a reason to have multiple loved ones when doing temptation distortion, or is a single one enough?
How bad is the negative from having high obedience on the loved ones? Is doing t1-t2 con breaks okay, or should I avoid any kind of break there at all costs? (maybe do double temptation for the mems since neither of them can have con breaks lol).
3) What's the best way to get access to the strongest training actions? I seem to never have enough corruption to use them, and I'm kind of scared to raise corruption just for them.
I.e. I assume I need instill fixation action to teach my forsaken how to use hypnotize punisher action, but to do so I'll need to rise deviancy so high that their future expertise gains will be much lower, making them weaker in the long run.
Are max tier training actions worth it in general? Do they have any advantages for forsaken which I'm not planning to use to break t4's?
Thanks in advance.
1) Is spamming nothing but hostility training options the best way to get expertise? Since hostility buffs future actions by 40%, I assumed I want to do them starting from the worst and moving to the best so that by the time the strongest expertise gain hits I have max bonus from hostility. I should probably also try to get options with disgrace as a second corruption for stamina reduction, and avoid deviancy not to ruin the bonus from hostility.
And then when hate expertise is super high, can I just use other training options to shift all that hate expertise towards a combat style I'd rather prefer? (I.e. train nothing but hostility, then shift from hate to plea/inju style)
2) Do consent bonuses from loved ones stack? I.e. is there a reason to have multiple loved ones when doing temptation distortion, or is a single one enough?
How bad is the negative from having high obedience on the loved ones? Is doing t1-t2 con breaks okay, or should I avoid any kind of break there at all costs? (maybe do double temptation for the mems since neither of them can have con breaks lol).
3) What's the best way to get access to the strongest training actions? I seem to never have enough corruption to use them, and I'm kind of scared to raise corruption just for them.
I.e. I assume I need instill fixation action to teach my forsaken how to use hypnotize punisher action, but to do so I'll need to rise deviancy so high that their future expertise gains will be much lower, making them weaker in the long run.
Are max tier training actions worth it in general? Do they have any advantages for forsaken which I'm not planning to use to break t4's?
Thanks in advance.
Found a case of the game calling two different body parts that are not capable of existing at the same time on one character in the game. In this screenshot, the game first calls for Decree to have a cock, but this is her first appearance and her body has been described with all female parts up to this point. It later calls for her to have a clit instead. The problem here is that it is calling both in the same scene, which only happens when describing the transformation scene in battle when a specific vulnerability, which is still intact on Decree, breaks. CSdev
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Is there a reason to keep forsaken vulnerabilities unbroken? I have a negotiation forsaken with unbroken core dignity t2/t3/t4, and since she costs an obscene amount to deploy I want to perform some disgrace training. However there are red warnings about those training options breaking her vulnerabilities. Are there any consequences tied to doing so? Or does it merely indicate that you will have consent penalty when trying to do them?
If they are the forbidden vulnerabilities that had to be kept for negotiation, maybe breaking them would break negotiation still. Cannot confirm, my last attempt at negotiation only netted me one Chosen, so I didn't save it, and my only distortion saves are a two temptation/one normal win save and a triple aversion save.