Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.14] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Wrynn13]

Hey the Dark Prince has positives aspects unlike Malloch!

Positives you say? Just let me get my Bolter, I mean pencil to jot them down...

 

[yuzuyo]

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Is it really hard to grasp how some people ARE INTO BEING CUCKED? How do you think they treat their significant other? Like shit? No. They're affectionate, like Cait is.

Being caring is not exclusive to monogamous relationships, people, for fuck's sake. At least not until someone has a fit of jealousy and grab a knife.

Cait being sweet in some scene or another doesn't mean the devs are baiting people.
The root of this problem is the inability to grasp how different people like different things. That and that most people like having someone care about them, even if they're sexual deviants.

I could go fetch some random NTR doujins to illustrate the problem if needed.

Edit: however, it seems the shit started with my possible misuse of the word fuck-buddy. I guess Cait has some romantic shit going on, but I don't think that equates to something that would change her completely. Like being monogamous.

She's still straightforward and I doubt people actually think she'll abandon her faith.

 

[sugouxxx]

She's not tied to religion, so at least there's something to work with and move forward. I don't think she'll ever dump Kaede

Why would she need dump Kaede, in fact MC should marry both of them. Hell MC should marry Kaede Mother since Kaede mother slutsub

Blasphemy.

Anno is a MUCH better character than Cait. By far. Every aspect of her is handled better, including her relationship with the PC. Pretty sure everyone wants to marry Anno, its one of the most requested developments Ive seen since TiTs started.

And I don't even dislike Cait really, I just think she's a bit boring, but they are pretty different, certainly quality wise.

Agree, unlike Cait, I don't see They shoehorn Anno that much. Sure she's special, but author didn't push her that much in our face. In fact, early they push Kaede more in our face than Anno, but Kaede is enjoyable

 

[yuzuyo]

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Oh no, I actually like Kaede and I think it would be sweet to get together with them and marry them both. I think many people here wouldn't like that, though, so I decided to mention it.

This actually makes me think about that paladin girl from the hive quest. I forgot her name. If SKoW wasn't against including the player in her relationship with Azzy at the beginning, I think many people would like her a lot more.

 

[MoneyMan181]

I just saw something I wanted to comment on that I was personally disappointed about. Don't be a dick.

How's he being a dick? Because he said some swears and called you pedantic? You didn't make the motivation behind your posts clear at all and he called you out on it, that's on you. If you just wanted to say you were disappointed it's not going to happen, don't quote someone and interject into an argument that has nothing to do with you.

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I think you forgot that his entire post he says:

for me personally

Or maybe you're just upset at someone giving their opinion over a character you don't care much about. Idk.

I guess Cait has some romantic shit going on, but I don't think that equates to something that would change her completely. Like being monogamous.

Pretty sure nobody said or even got their hopes up that this would happen. Just that they wish it did.

This actually makes me think about that paladin girl from the hive quest. I forgot her name. If SKoW wasn't against including the player in her relationship with Azzy at the beginning, I think many people would like her a lot more.

The issue is twofold: 1) We interact with Azzy more and saved her colony. She should care more about us than some random chick that pops up after all is said and done. Or at the very least she should care enough to say to Liaden, "Listen, I care about this person just as much as you, if they can't be involved, this won't work out."
2) We don't even see them bond or do anything together. They just flirt like twice and then you walk in on them having sex. Like... what? I could be more accepting and understanding if they're shown they actually care about each other but like every other romance in this game, it just poofs into existence after interacting with the person once.

It's not even good Voyeur content either, SKOW just wanted his two OCs to bang each other and it's extremely obvious.

 

[Skandranon]

How's he being a dick? Because he said some swears and called you pedantic? You didn't make the motivation behind your posts clear at all and he called you out on it, that's on you. If you just wanted to say you were disappointed it's not going to happen, don't quote someone and interject into an argument that has nothing to do with you.

???

The first interaction between me and Biostar was Biostar quoting my post. What are you talking about?
Before that I said something in response to what Wrynn13 was saying.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

???

The first interaction between me and Biostar was Biostar quoting my post. What are you talking about?
Before that I said something in response to what Wrynn13 was saying.

Well, you weren't exactly right while quoting Wrynn. And Biostar quoted you to address that.

 

[Skandranon]

Well, you weren't exactly right while quoting Wrynn. And Biostar quoted you to address that.

Well A. that still makes what MoneyMan just said wrong, I didn't quote someone and interject into an argument that had nothing to do with me, like Moneyman literally just did, for instance,
and B. we were talking about different quotes in the first place! I even said in my reply there might be something I haven't seen.

 

[yuzuyo]

Pretty sure nobody said or even got their hopes up that this would happen. Just that they wish it did.

Then there's no bait. Cait being affectionate may make people wish for something else but there's nothing to mislead anyone.

Her fucking everyone she sees and the champion having a romantic relationship with her are not mutually exclusive, which is what I'm trying to convey.

Humilliation and other more harsh fetishes are not necessarily something cucks enjoy, I should think.

Or maybe you're just upset at someone giving their opinion over a character you don't care much about. Idk.

I'm not discussing opinions. I'm very clearly saying people sleeping around and being romantic can happen, even at the same time. Weird shit, but there's people like that. Fuck-buddies and romance, however, are mutually exclusive.

It's not even good Voyeur content either, SKOW just wanted his two OCs to bang each other and it's extremely obvious.

Won't argue with that. After seeing that Daliza threesome I simply stay away from their junk. Too much love for some fucking pornographic OC.

 

[Wrynn13]

Honestly that's part of the biggest problem the game has, the dev's give more shits about their OC's than making a good game. Do I make this content engaging for the players? Nah fuck it, more fan service for myself.

 

[Noone202]

Honestly that's part of the biggest problem the game has, the dev's give more shits about their OC's than making a good game. Do I make this content engaging for the players? Nah fuck it, more fan service for myself.

They should have made or commission a fanfic to jerk off, but that would cost money. Why do that when making a self serving game can made thousands?

 

[MoneyMan181]

that still makes what MoneyMan just said wrong, I didn't quote someone and interject into an argument that had nothing to do with me,

Jesus you really are pedantic. My bad you didn't actually quote someone, but you still did interject(you even said yourself you interjected in that post lmao) with the whole "well uhm akshually alypia said it thing and i dont think its true" thing. Quote or not, you were addressing what 2 other people were currently talking about. It's essentially the same thing. And to add on to that, you responded to Biostar's post intially when Biostar was just responding to yuzuyo.

But apparently I'm completely wrong because I use the word quote instead of response even though you know perfectly well what I mean.

like Moneyman literally just did, for instance,

The difference is I'm not getting offended when people don't understand me if I make my posts obtuse. I did not say interjecting alone was the issue. You got into that debate yourself, continued it for an entire page and a half, then backpedaled and said you only wanted to comment on something you were disappointed about. If you actually mean that(which I doubt at this point), why didn't you just say "I doubt we're actually going to get a regular romance with her, even if Alypia/Savin alluded otherwise." and stopped there? Why would you go on this entire fucking tirade if all you wanted to do was express disappointment?

 

[Skandranon]

Jesus you really are pedantic. My bad you didn't actually quote someone, but you still did interject(you even said yourself you interjected in that post lmao) with the whole "well uhm akshually alypia said it thing and i dont think its true" thing. Quote or not, you were addressing what 2 other people were currently talking about. It's essentially the same thing. And to add on to that, you responded to Biostar's post intially when Biostar was just responding to yuzuyo.

But apparently I'm completely wrong because I use the word quote instead of response even though you know perfectly well what I mean.

You're wrong because you were wrong.
Honestly, let me amend that: you're spitballing crap to support an argument after realizing you were clearly and obviously wrong.

The difference is I'm not getting offended when people don't understand me if I make my posts obtuse.

I did not say interjecting alone was the issue. You got into that debate yourself, continued it for an entire page and a half, then backpedaled and said you only wanted to comment on something you were disappointed about. If you actually mean that(which I doubt at this point), why didn't you just say "I doubt we're actually going to get a regular romance with her, even if Alypia/Savin allueded otherwise." and stopped there? Why would you go on this entire fucking tirade if all you wanted to do was express disappointment?

You mean like a very clear " I think they're lying"" post"?

Honestly, I'm kinda skeptical about that whole remark.

It kinda seems like she's painting not building the temple as it's own path when...well, that path doesn't really exist. There's no difference besides not having the temple, no actual content, and no real confirmation of any upcoming content, ever. Kinda feels like Alypia was just spitballing there to make an argument.


Just feels like reach, or at least something g very unlikely ever to come to fruition.

Tirade? That should have been the end of the conversation. That's all I wanted to say: a speculation on something not happening. I have no horse in the debate at all. My next two posts were on a completely different subject, talking about Cait. There wasn't even a discussion to have, as far as I was concerned. I commented on the one thing I wanted to comment on.

Conversation's over. Quit poking it.

 

[MoneyMan181]

You're wrong because you were wrong.
Honestly, let me amend that: you're spitballing crap to support an argument after realizing you were clearly and obviously wrong.

Hey if it helps you sleep better at night, you can keep telling yourself that all you want.

You mean like a very clear " I think they're lying"" post"?

What did he mean by this?

I commented on the one thing I wanted to comment on.

Could've fooled me with all the posts after that.

Conversation's over. Quit poking it.

You know that's not how internet discourse works. I don't even know what this is supposed to mean, I'm responding to you in the same day. Do you just arbitrarily decide when conversations end to not deal with them? Fair, though if you actually intend that you would just stop replying.

 

[Meblue]

Is it really hard to grasp how some people ARE INTO BEING CUCKED? How do you think they treat their significant other? Like shit? No. They're affectionate, like Cait is.

Being caring is not exclusive to monogamous relationships, people, for fuck's sake. At least not until someone has a fit of jealousy and grab a knife.

Cait being sweet in some scene or another doesn't mean the devs are baiting people.
The root of this problem is the inability to grasp how different people like different things. That and that most people like having someone care about them, even if they're sexual deviants.

I could go fetch some random NTR doujins to illustrate the problem if needed.

Edit: however, it seems the shit started with my possible misuse of the word fuck-buddy. I guess Cait has some romantic shit going on, but I don't think that equates to something that would change her completely. Like being monogamous.

She's still straightforward and I doubt people actually think she'll abandon her faith.

Imma' be real with you, I don't think I understand the point you're trying to make, so lemme try to make my post clearer for you.

First off, my post was based entirely on my personal views and opinions on the matter, not any objective facts. It isn't meant to be an argument. I am fully aware of the fact that people like getting cucked, and if that's something you're into, that's fine. I'm not here to kinkshame anybody, and I didn't do so in my post, atleast not in a way that's my fault. I also NEVER claimed that the devs were baiting anyone.

Now, let me make this clear - FOR ME(MEANING THIS IS AN OPINION) Cait sleeping around isn't necessarily the problem, It's the romantic undertones the game seems to imply. There's nothing wrong with a character being affectionate or slutty, I'd still fuck them in the latter case, I'd be disappointed but sexy is still sexy. My issue(AS IN, ME PERSONALLY) is that I don't like when it's both at the same time. Is this character monogamous? Yes? Then turn the romantic vibes on. If not, then turn them off. And if they can't have one without the other? They can fuck off as far as either is concerned.

And that's exactly what I'd like to do to Cait - fuck off away from her. However, the game makes this incredibly difficult because:

1. She's required to even just start the game.
2. You're automatically given her quest - something that pisses off my inner completionist vehemently.
3. The game constantly mentions her and she shows up in places despite not even being a proper companion that's even interacted with.
4. This is the biggest offender, massive chunks of content are gated behind her, particularly Ahmri's wedding and the temple.

I might be forgetting something, but those are the major ones.

All I want is the option to avoid her without losing out on so much shit. I say that I don't like it when romance and sluttery are mutually exclusive but the thing is, that's always and issue I can avoid. I don't like NTR, does that mean I go to every NTR doujin to leave a 40 page rant? Of course not. When I scroll past NTR, I just frown and move on with my day. Cait is shoved in your face throughout the entire game and that's infuriating. You can say to just NOT play the game, but the thing is, for as much shit as we give this game, it has genuinely good content to offer at it's best, and somehow that fucking sucks.

TLDR: My disappointment with Cait would not exist if she was monogamous. My problems with Cait would not exist if she wasn't romantic. My vocal complaints of Cait wouldn't exist if we could properly avoid her.

Again, let me make it clear, most of this is entirely opinionated. The only thing that's really objective here is Cait's obstuction of content, but if you actually like her, then it isn't really.

 

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0.6.30 Patch Notes:

• More content for the Peaks’ manticores: you can preg the twins, the twins can preg you, and/or you can preg Leticia. (Written by Skow)
• Once any manticore pregnancy is 1/3 done, the next time they encounter you, they’ll invite you to their tower to come hang out and have a good time. You can rest, blaze some nip, or bone down in the safety and warmth of their lair. Once born, you can also visit your batkittens.
• There’s a new tile in north-eastern Harvest Valley, the Tiran Boneyard. Maybe there’s something hidden out there, who knows. (Coded by Squishy)
• New CGs: Arona and Etheryn at the Bath House (Akira), Gambling Minotaurs (DCL)
• New Bust: Lapis Hoplite (Moira)

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[Daken9]

At this point those mino brodudes are more likely to have vaginas, holy shit

 

[claralover]

Lapis Hoplite looks interesting (hot)

edit: not more of these stupid fucking "puzzles", fucking damn annoying. It doesn't even make sense

 

[Quintilus]

Hmmmmmmm....

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

 

[claralover]

what the fuck does this even want us to do?


Here's the solution to this shit: "Top Left, Top Left, Mid Left - so it should say Hidden Sun, Shining Stars, Crescent Moon"

aaaaaaaand it was a waste of time, you can't even interact with the Lapis Hotlite looks like, should've known, how foolish of me