throbzombie

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If it's non-canon, Kas's bad ending with the mouse dude doesn't matter, but if it's an alternate reality, then it's basically confirmed that Kas romantically loves the champion, in the main storyline.
Yeah, that knocked it down a whole letter grade for me. It was pretty solid and actually touching until it became clear that Tobs was throwing Kas's character and the lore of demons out the window. What a ponce. Thank God it's not canon.

That wasn't enough to ruin it for me, though.
Who is this mouse dude people are talking about? I want his bad end now.
Master Whisper, the boss of Sander's quest.
 
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This is actually a very interesting topic I once brought up.

Are the bad endings non-canon, or just alternate realities? Because there is a difference.

If they are non-canon, none of this matters. But if they are alternate realities, this means that Nakano has it in him to kill the big bad and we can just let Tobs's anime self take care of the evil dudes. None of it matters. The champion doesn't matter.

If it's non-canon, Kas's bad ending with the mouse dude doesn't matter, but if it's an alternate reality, then it's basically confirmed that Kas romantically loves the champion, in the main storyline.
It's stupid, but to be fair I don't think it suggests Nakano personally beats Kas. He just stands out in the war against her, which is fine, as much as I dislike the way he's written he's clearly meant to be a strong fighter, some random guard wouldn't even be worth including as a fight for a low level party.

Agreed, but wouldn't Kasyrra fight even harder now that the champion has lost because they took something that was hers? And its a massive fuck you to your character
Yeah this is my issue, you'd expect her to basically come directly after you, with how obsessed she is over you. The whole "your entire quest is pointless because Kas loses anyway" is what I dislike with that ending, and it being inconsistent with most of the other bad ends.

Even if they're non-canon, if it's in the game it still impacts how the player views the story. Bad ends should be actual bad endings, not "and everyone lived happily ever after" lol.
 
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I don't know if him being weak right now is a good argument for him not being able to defeat Kas, it is pretty believable that with time ( especially in the middle of a war) he grew as a fighter.
Yeah ill admit its not the best argument, but it still affects how you view the story, and not in a good way. Case in point its a disgrace that its considered a "bad ending". And that makes me irritated.

Even if they're non-canon, if it's in the game it still impacts how the player views the story. Bad ends should be actual bad endings, not "and everyone lived happily ever after" lol.
Whoa buddy, you're going to far, we here at the Fenoxo Forums prefer to use the term "alternative endings" to describe those endings over the way to strong "b-word ending :sick:". Frankly, the mention of such a word, "bad", is insulting to our lord and saviour Tobs the wise. Like many great philosophers before him, his verbose and frankly baroque form of the written word is beneath us just like Kinu/Champion is to Nakano in every way shape or form.
 

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How do we do the new Cait stuff that was added in 0.3.38? I did notice a star south of Hawkthorne, but the tile is greyed out and I can't travel to it
 
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How do we do the new Cait stuff that was added in 0.3.38? I did notice a star south of Hawkthorne, but the tile is greyed out and I can't travel to it
Nothing new was added to cait in 0.3.38. If you're referring to the conclusion to her quest, The tile you're looking for is here.
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Everything after that is in the tavern I believe. If you're referring to the transformation, explore the frostwood with cait in your party until Vari lets you go to the village, go to the store, and talk to her daughters.
 

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How do we do the new Cait stuff that was added in 0.3.38? I did notice a star south of Hawkthorne, but the tile is greyed out and I can't travel to it
Use the "explore" button on the tile next to the greyed-out one like when you were first playing the game. It has nothing to do with Cait, though. It's a new NPC.
 

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The android version stuck at loading (it's just me maybe) and after a while it says corruption of Champions 2 not responding. Help
 

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I like Nakanos ending since well, like Kas, it still somewhat loops back to us the Champion. The reason why he is able to help beat the demons is because of our influence. And It is pretty nicely written, has nice arc to it, and it is something else compared to your usual enslavement.

And besides, I just like to think of the endings as non canon what if scenarios. But still keeping it somewhat consistant with the lore/characterization. Like, yeah, Kas does love us in her own twisted way. It is shown in the story multiply times. She probably wants us to prove ourselves so that we could rule next to her. But if we fail, she can just make us her own willing servent. Same way that it shows that Nakano could probably change his stance on us, but it would take time. And that he is able to reach greater highs.

And as for those not being "bad endings". I mean, yeah, not every bad ending is going to involve same, dour outcomes. It would be kind of be boring. For example, in stuff like Hirrud and Nakano , they just straight up kill us. Depends on what you find worse, enslavement or death, those could be seen as worse ones. And even best cases of enslavement are still bad compared to literarly being a free man/woman that is able to do things how they see fit.

Now as for them showing that someone else can beat Kas. I am personally not fan of idea of us being destined/only ones that can win against her. Kinda sucks the life out of the adventure, since we are predeterminent to face her. Non of this is the choice our champion makes. And well, it does kind of invalid (more than others) a lot of other ending that I find sweet. Especially Arona and Berwyn bad ends. Since we can not really have our happy enslavement if no one else can defeat her. So yes, while it does undervalue our champion involvement in this demon problem, I kind of prefer it that way. And besides, it is already undermined considering that Kas is letting us to keep our soul to begin with.
Like, now whatever we accomplish is not because the desteny demands it. It is because we want to do it.

As I said, he only helps beat the demons. Nowhere does it say he is only reason they lost, or that he killed Kas personally.

Act 2 could realistically go on for a few areas (areas = new locations), possibly more than TITS. But the question is, are savin and his cohorts really willing to continue the story or will it prematurely end, as with TITS and the whole "Oh its 10 planets" just kidding fuck off you get 5?
Eh, to early to tell. This game just entered its third year, and well, we are just getting Khor minos update during/after the summer. So lets wait and see how big that moo City ends up being.
 
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Who is this mouse dude people are talking about? I want his bad end now.


I don't know if him being weak right now is a good argument for him not being able to defeat Kas, it is pretty believable that with time ( especially in the middle of a war) he grew as a fighter.
If any random motherfucker can "grow" to kill Kassyrra and a special soul'd champion is not necessary at all, it sort of defeats the purpose of the MC's existence and Kas being interested in them. CoC2 is not trying to subvert any expectations, it's your generic chosen one story and it's pretty obvious about it.

I'm willing to bet the only reason Nakano managed to kill her is because he is Tobs's special boi lol.
 

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If any random motherfucker can "grow" to kill Kassyrra and a special soul'd champion is not necessary at all, it sort of defeats the purpose of the MC's existence and Kas being interested in them. CoC2 is not trying to subvert any expectations, it's your generic chosen one story and it's pretty obvious about it.

I'm willing to bet the only reason Nakano managed to kill her is because he is Tobs's special boi lol.
I would like to think of as our soul guarantee her victory. Without it, she can be defeated. And I mean, they did start entire second Gods war against her. Which probably means that it was a team effort that defeated her. Not action of any one person.
 

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I would like to think of as our soul guarantee her victory. Without it, she can be defeated. And I mean, they did start entire second Gods war against her. Which probably means that it was a team effort that defeated her. Not action of any one person.
I'd still say it ruins the suspension of disbelief . You can kick Nakano's ass at like level 2-3. I can believe that Kas is infinitely more powerful than us despite us oneshotting the map. I find it hard to believe that this random ass dude (or his team or whatever) can get super-op. Kitsune might as well conquer the world, then, if anyone can just become super-op.

Then again Kinu exists, who is apparently super strong despite doing jack shit and collecting potatoes or something. Honestly, none of my rant matters with her existence. Pretty much anyone Tobs wants to be strong can be strong because fuck-you-i-want-a-strong-oc-waifu lmao.

It's horrible writing that Kinu isn't killing Kas. Hell it's horrible and indulgent writing that she is even that strong.
 
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M0nte

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I'd still say it ruins the suspension of disbelief . You can kick Nakano's ass at like level 2-3. I can believe that Kas is infinitely more powerful than us despite us oneshotting the map. I find it hard to believe that this random ass dude (or his team or whatever) can get super-op. Kitsune might as well conquer the world, then, if anyone can just become super-op.

Then again Kinu exists, who is apparently super strong despite doing jack shit and collecting potatoes or something. Honestly, none of my rant matters with her existence. Pretty much anyone Tobs wants to be strong can be strong because fuck-you-i-want-a-strong-oc-waifu lmao.

It's just...like, sure, bad endings are non-canon and they're not meant to be taken seriously, but the mc becoming the dude's wife and him just oneshotting the big bad...wtf kinda fantasy is this, Tobs?

dude prolly furiously masturbated as he imagined himself fucking the mc or somethin'
No, it was not just kitsune that entered the war against Kas. They entered second gods war, so it means that everyone, every race and god, united to fight against demon invaders. A war that lasted years. It is right there in the text. He is just one of many Kitsune that made name from himself. Thanks to us in some part. Now, that still may be to far fetched to you. And fair enough. But at same time, it is still a one of four what if scenarios that champion can expirience. I do not see how Nakano marrying champion is supposed to prove that he is Tobs self insert. When other 3 exist. When in one he just straight up kills you.

At the end of the day,they are all just what ifs. Now sure, you may find that lazy way for authors to disregard any sort in universe consistancy. To which I say, yeah, truth.But I do not see how Nakano ending is in any way different then for Kas to throw us into a minotaur pit in one ending. While looking for us like love struck school girl in next.All of them require some sort of extension of disbelif since they are just short conclusions to larger picture that have no further barings on the plot.
 
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At the end of the day,they are all just what ifs. Now sure, you may find that lazy way for authors to disregard any sort in universe consistancy. To which I say, yeah, truth.But I do not see how Nakano ending is in any way different then for Kas to throw us into a minotaur pit in one ending. While looking for us like love struck school girl in next.All of them require some sort of extension of disbelif since they are just short conclusions to larger picture that have no further barings on the plot.
For what it's worth, I dislike these too. It's clear they're to some degree expecting us to take the writing a bit more seriously here than in coc1 (as if 1 even had a real story) or tits, so probably should make more of an effort to keep stuff vaguely consistent, "Alternatively good ending" or not.

Kas losing regardless of us, or just no longer giving a shit about us at all when in another path she's obsessed with us either for practical or emotional reasons is pretty silly imo. As much as they might be non-canon, they do impact how we view the story somewhat, it's just unavoidable. If we're meant to feel a sense of tension, knowing we could just choose to leave the region entirely and people would win regardless is a bit counter to that.

I don't think Nakano is a self-insert more than other characters, he's just generically shit. Already had like 10 rants about kitsune though so won't repeat myself lol.


Ultimately is just a porn game though, so I guess it depends what perspective you're taking. I don't like that end in either case, but some of the others are better if you accept they're just excuses for random fetish shit with no deeper thought.
 
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Egads I missed the update by one day, :ROFLMAO:

Futa isn't my thing but the other content (namely breeding pregnancy, what little vanilla there is) is absolute gold, and I think so far my favourite writers for smut scenes are Wsan and The Observer. Kinda makes me sad that they seem to be most likely to go a similar futa/poly heavy route but hey what can ya do.

CoC's been that kind of game to begin with and I can only lament the lack of more vanilla oriented stuff that lets you go as far as this game does. I'll continue to enjoy what I can, thank you for the update o7

Thought I'd share the bust& doodles I drew of the misfortunates I played in case anyone wants to use'em.

Mello and Gamut, respectively.

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Quintilus

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Okay, I updated my old 3.2something version to last public, 3.37. What new it have?
For now I move behemoth from centaur village to "personal castle" and get baron title. What else there?

Also, there are new (for me at least) encounter on the hills, Byvernia...Bivernia...something like this. There are option after victory angry breed and after that greyed button with popup description "you cant figure out what you should say right now, maybe in future". What I should do to unlock it? Just wait for future updates?
 

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The android version stuck at loading (it's just me maybe) and after a while it says corruption of Champions 2 not responding. Help
The android version don't work on android 8.0.0 and above anymore. Downgrade to android 7 or just play on pc. Been like that since update 0.3.34 and no fix from devs yet. The android version revert was posted on the bug report forum.
 
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