Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.14] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[destroyerofassholes]

Oh, I'll need to start hanging out with Urta then.
Only an insecure and very restrictive person won't forgive someone for those stuff anyway.

You're either baiting or projecting like crazy

 

[Raf-Raf]

You're either baiting or projecting like crazy

Remove "either baiting or projecting like" and that's me~~~
This piece of shit made me even worse.

 

[MogwaiKupo]

Fuck that, yo. One moment he's writing Brint and the next Brienne is a bumpkin who can only talk about fields and family dilemmas.

Tobs is confused because Brint/Brienne are loved despite not having a convoluted backstory. In his eyes you can't be a good character without a college thesis for a background. Probably one of the reasons he hates Brienne.

 

[MogwaiKupo]

Oh, the one I keep seeing on porn sites' recommended section.
Wait, they aren't the same thing?

There's a pretty thin line between sharing and cuckold. That line is usually how involved you are in the other party's relations. You sound like you share Savin's sharing fetish which is probable why the team's skewed views on relationships doesn't bother you so much.

 

[Raf-Raf]

There's a pretty thin line between sharing and cuckold. That line is usually how involved you are in the other party's relations. You sound like you share Savin's sharing fetish which is probable why the team's skewed views on relationships doesn't bother you so much.

Dunno about sharing fetish, I just don't care on whatever they do unless they start affecting me in a bad way then it's all good~~~

(Nakano and whoever the other one is, you won't get my damn kid you mofos)

 

[MogwaiKupo]

Yeah, first CoC has some really dumb, dumb fucking design choices.

But that was their first game. I guess it's justified? Even though I still don't see how nobody didn't realize having Urta be important to the endings was fucking stupid, and so was her camp mechanic and the whole affection thing.

By CoC2 they really should have learned their lesson from shit design choices, but eh.

Another infamous decision was Amily's corrupt path. You got locked into it if you were silly enough to talk to her with a corruption of 25. 25, And when I say locked, I mean even if you lower it to 0 she'll still hide from you and you can never go back to the pure path.
Bear in mind, not only is her corruption score 10 but the beautiful sword's cutoff is 35, Amily really does not like corruption, she must have joined Coc2's writing team

 

[hentaifelf]

how far in kitsune content makes you locked with not being able to do kas content. would love for them to explain it themselves in the patch notes, but we cant get something so hard as clear directions

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

skewed views on relationships doesn't bother you so much.

Skewed how, exactly?
You imply we should all fall in line with what society has decreed?
That relations should be strictly 1on1 period?
I say that's old and outdated thinking.

 

[andy60]

In the /vg/ board on 4chan

Ofc it is the one board I didn't check. Thanks R43

 

[BakugoV8]

how far in kitsune content makes you locked with not being able to do kas content. would love for them to explain it themselves in the patch notes, but we cant get something so hard as clear directions

Currently there is no hard lockout. If you've sold your soul to keros you will still be able to access the dream palace, BUT there will be a talk scene where you're given the option to tell her that you sold your soul and that's what locks you out, so just don't pick that option.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

Skewed how, exactly?
You imply we should all fall in line with what society has decreed?
That relations should be strictly 1on1 period?
I say that's old and outdated thinking.

This isn't really the place to argue about modern sexual and romantic zeitgeist, especially with trite platitudes. He didn't imply anything about society, he's just talking about the game, chill, you do you in your life.

What he meant by "skewed", or at least what I would mean by "skewed", is that the game has a weird tone. The game really wants you to accept sharing/voyeurism kind of content as normal, and by that it doesn't really make obvious what some choices will lead to, what some defeats will lead to and so on. Sometimes there isn't even a choice. If it just came clean with it all the time and set a proper precedent, it'd be fine. But for SavinCo it's become so normalized that they don't even realize someone might not want to stumble into certain content.


For example:


If I want to get a double titjob from Arona and Cait, that shouldn't unlock unavoidable voyeur scenes of the two whenever I click on Cait.

If you go dom Arona, you shouldn't be forced into threesomes with Etheryn with Arona fucking her without the game warning you of this possibility beforehand or giving you a choice.

Then there is the entire Hashat/ Etheryn debacle. No warning, no anything, straight up NTR-lite.

It's not the content itself that is problematic, people like those sorts of things, I can understand that.

But for Savin this is so normal that he didn't think people who signed up for Arona dom might not want to get others involved. It certainly isn't implied anywhere until you randomly see the scenes. And these are just a few examples.


That is skewed. In a game with a varying amount of very different fetishes, people will obviously like some and won't like some. It's not about some grand message for society's sexual values.

It's about the fact that a skewed idea of normalcy causes the dev-team to not realize that some of the shit they put in as a surprise isn't what everybody will like. Savin seems to think that just because his wife has a boyfriend, everyone's should.

Just give people the choice to not do that shit. And warn properly.

 

[M0nte]

Thanks for letting me know. I know how you feel - I've been waiting for more Brint content forever. Or y'know, just some more substantial male character content in general.

Well, there are going to be a lot of scenes/threesomes in KM involving Brint. Writen by Savin. Staring Cait.

As for his main writer, Wsan is going to deliver on some more of his content when his family gets introduced. Not directly with them, that will be Briennes thing. Not sure what it is going to involve, but I hope it is going to satisfy you.

As for me, when it comes male NPCs, , Bs cowboy, Berwyn (especially cuntboy content), Liulfr and his corrupt route (It is fucking excelent), Birds shark and kitsune boys and Kurbles moth dilf are all things I am looking forward to.

how far in kitsune content makes you locked with not being able to do kas content. would love for them to explain it themselves in the patch notes, but we cant get something so hard as clear directions

I do wish the game actually completly locked you out of Kas romance route if you sold your soul to one of the gods. While it would piss of some people, it has its advatages. Makes it so you can not expirience all content had to offer, makes your choices have consequences and makes Kas seem more like her own character that you are playing with on knifes edge.

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

This isn't really the place to argue about modern sexual and romantic zeitgeist, especially with trite platitudes. He didn't imply anything about "society as a whole", he's just talking about the game, chill, you do you in your life.

Thanks captn', whatever would i do without your universal wisdom.

sharing/voyeurism kind of content as normal

Pretty normal looking kinks to me, not even hardcore.

doesn't really make obvious what some choices will lead to

Not all choices are meant to be obvious.

what some defeats will lead to and so on

Don't lose if you don't want to find out, simple.
That's kinda the point of losing btw, whatever happens to you is up to the victor.

If it just came clean with it all the time and set a proper precedent, it'd be fine.

No it would not be fine, i have no interest in being spoiled.
If you want to risk something then by all means, but at least have the balls to swallow the consequences like a man if you land yourself in some unpleasant shit.

But for SavinCo it's become so normalized that they don't even realize someone might not want to stumble into certain content.

They even been popping "disable zis or zat" content buttons lately no?
And anyway, you can't please everybody. Not a single game in existence can pull that off.
So, if you don't like a lot of things in this game it may be prudent to.. walk away. Plenty of other games around no?

Ultimately, no matter who says what, it's their game and they can do as they please with it.
The fact that it's being strongly supported on patreon is all the proof you need to see that majority of people like what Savvy and co been doing with this game.
Now i'm not defending them or anything, but facts are facts.

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

Anyways, this game is clearly not my cup 'o tea, so i'm simply gonna take my own advice and walk away.
See you around boys. ;D

 

[Raf-Raf]

Ultimately, no matter who says what, it's their game and they can do as they please with it.

Exactly why we mod the game to suit it to our liking but somehow these motherfuckers want to remove that feature, pretty much the line "Don't like it? Deal with it."

But bless the modders who are struggling just to make this piece of shit better and I will gladly wait to have content that these pieces of shit won't add TO THIS piece of shit.

I'm losing more and more of my non-existent sanity but I am still trying to hold on to the hope that maybe this will be good in the long run.
I mean, the first one's a masterpiece so this might be a late bloomer.

 

[Skandranon]

The mod so far looks...dumb, though.

Its doing the same thing as that BOOBs mod for TiTs, which existed almost exclusively to remove content. Which is the opposite of why I mod things. I want more content, not less. I wouldnt download a mod that removed all the M/M sex in the game, even if I'm not going to engage with it, I don't see anything great about this one either.

 

[Raf-Raf]

The mod so far looks...dumb, though.

Its doing the same thing as that BOOBs mod for TiTs, which existed almost exclusively to remove content. Which is the opposite of why I mod things. I want more content, not less. I wouldnt download a mod that removed all the M/M sex in the game, even if I'm not going to engage with it, I don't see anything great about this one either.

The mod I saw for this one seems outdated by a few patches but how the made it hard to mod this sequel I kinda understand why.
Haven't seen any removed stuff from it so far so it's probably different from yours?

I haven't seen any mod for TiTs, only the xianxia mod for CoC 1.

Hmmm, mods that remove content will probably be the ones I'll avoid since I too prefer to get mods that add while keeping the base game's stuff.

 

[MogwaiKupo]

Currently there is no hard lockout. If you've sold your soul to keros you will still be able to access the dream palace, BUT there will be a talk scene where you're given the option to tell her that you sold your soul and that's what locks you out, so just don't pick that option.

In their defense, the Kitsune transformation was added quite a while before Dream Palace. No matter how divisive the Kitsune are, it'd be pretty jerkish to punish someone for a decision they made over a year ago. Punishing someone for supporting their content is unfathomable to them.
They'll still punish you for saying no to their content before it ever gets expanded on(Wayfort/Cait Temple) you can always count on that consistency.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

The mod so far looks...dumb, though.

Its doing the same thing as that BOOBs mod for TiTs, which existed almost exclusively to remove content. Which is the opposite of why I mod things. I want more content, not less. I wouldnt download a mod that removed all the M/M sex in the game, even if I'm not going to engage with it, I don't see anything great about this one either.

Somewhat agreed. I think it's fine to have mods that add the choice to remove shit you normally can't though.

In their defense, the Kitsune transformation was added quite a while before Dream Palace. No matter how divisive the Kitsune are, it'd be pretty jerkish to punish someone for a decision they made over a year ago. Punishing someone for supporting their content is unfathomable to them.
They'll still punish you for saying no to their content before it ever gets expanded on(Wayfort/Cait Temple) you can always count on that consistency.

Yeah this is an ass move. On the other hand I can't really see how they would even uhhh...fix or undo this situation? Obviously gameplay comes before lore any day of the week, but the "soul" is integral to both Keros (if you decided to sell it) and to Kas.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

Well, there are going to be a lot of scenes/threesomes in KM involving Brint. Writen by Savin. Staring Cait.

As for his main writer, Wsan is going to deliver on some more of his content when his family gets introduced. Not directly with them, that will be Briennes thing. Not sure what it is going to involve, but I hope it is going to satisfy you.

As for me, when it comes male NPCs, , Bs cowboy, Berwyn (especially cuntboy content), Liulfr and his corrupt route (It is fucking excelent), Birds shark and kitsune boys and Kurbles moth dilf are all things I am looking forward to.


I do wish the game actually completly locked you out of Kas romance route if you sold your soul to one of the gods. While it would piss of some people, it has its advatages. Makes it so you can not expirience all content had to offer, makes your choices have consequences and makes Kas seem more like her own character that you are playing with on knifes edge.

Yeah might as well go all in on that. It's logical storywise to not be of any interest to Kas once you sell your soul, so the romance path should die altogether. Doubly so since you're locked out of the dreamhouse anyway, so it's partly done. The intent is there.

It's not very logical game design-wise to punish the player character for a decision he made a year ago...but the game does warn you that there will be consequences when you do take that choice, plus no update would ever be able to do anything of note if the entire game had to be designed around decisions you took years ago due to the game's per update nature.

Also what content is Liuflr getting? His content was very barebones in his introduction.

Exactly why we mod the game to suit it to our liking but somehow these motherfuckers want to remove that feature, pretty much the line "Don't like it? Deal with it."

But bless the modders who are struggling just to make this piece of shit better and I will gladly wait to have content that these pieces of shit won't add TO THIS piece of shit.

I'm losing more and more of my non-existent sanity but I am still trying to hold on to the hope that maybe this will be good in the long run.
I mean, the first one's a masterpiece so this might be a late bloomer.

People have nostalgia over the first game. It allowed more freedom, but it was also far dumber in many ways.