Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.14] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[RenH]

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Yeah, I have to agree with that. And for all the shit we put on Tobs, I must admit that he was the one that was writing the early/interesting plot/story development (Convocation of Mirrors).

Tobs makes for an okay fantasy writer but a mediocre porn writer. Also needs to learn to manage work economy properly because he has to understand that very few people would like to go through the entirety of Lord of The Rings before actually getting a hard on or even just aroused.

 

[Bootyman]

What Tobs needs is a competent creative lead; someone that'll actually tell him what to do or if he's getting too far up his ass.

 

[RenH]

Uhhhh, if a character is already explicitly a whore then how is making her be a whore for you corrupt?

It's really easy, just accept the fact that the writers of Corruption of Champions hate writing corruption content and somehow thinks being a small-time prostitute as opposed to being a corporate-sanctioned slut is bad.

Still no promises on actually doing anal or knocking her up when corrupt so gg.

 

[Raf-Raf]

It's really easy, just accept the fact that the writers of Corruption of Champions hate writing corruption content and somehow thinks being a small-time prostitute as opposed to being a corporate-sanctioned slut is bad.

Still no promises on actually doing anal or knocking her up when corrupt so gg.

Someone already told us that her getting knocked up is a fucking epilogue...a damn epilogue...
This is pretty much a damn cliche romance novel where the endings are pretty much a big "here it is and FUCK YOU" to us.

 

[actualrealname]

Tobs makes for an okay fantasy writer but a mediocre porn writer.

I wouldn't go this far, he's a mediocre fantasy writer and a generally terrible porn writer. So many of his sex scenes are just fucking awful, full of terrible euphemisms and bizarre thought interjections, taking forever to actually get to the sex part and missing the entire point of the scene. He simply doesn't understand how to pace erotic content at all.

His non-sexual stuff is a bit better, but it's still very amateurish, ridiculously overwritten and in desperate need of a vaguely competent editor, or at the very least someone to tell him when to drop ideas or characters that simply don't work. Writing should not be an exercise in jerking yourself off over how cool a line you thought up is, or how "angsty anime samurai" is some super unique compelling character concept.

That's even without discussing the issues specific to the game being an RPG, not least of which is a hilarious lack of player agency or input, or just straight up writing completely unrelated stories that have nothing to do with the PC or main story.

He certainly has potential, but the internet is full of mediocre fantasy writers with potential, and his attitude towards criticism has always been fucking awful.

I must admit that he was the one that was writing the early/interesting plot/story development (Convocation of Mirrors).

I don't think convocation was a good piece of fantasy writing, the whole stuff with the gods is just kind of overdone and boring, and a random ass fucking phoenix wright legal battle in the middle of a porn game is a stupid idea (especially when tied to a giant exposition dump).

Kas has the only really interesting motivation/story in the game, as far as main plot stuff goes.

 

[RenH]

I wouldn't go this far, he's a mediocre fantasy writer and a generally terrible porn writer.

In my defense, I'm used to using 'okay' as a stand-in for mediocre due to strict Asian parents.

 

[RenH]

Someone already told us that her getting knocked up is a fucking epilogue...a damn epilogue...
This is pretty much a damn cliche romance novel where the endings are pretty much a big "here it is and FUCK YOU" to us.

Yeah, I read that. It doesn't bother me that much since, as a self-professed pregnancy kink connoisseur, I'm used to being disappointed in that manner. It's like when you see the 'pregnancy' tag and find out it's an ending only or that the woman/female MC instantly bloats up and then shoots out a hellspawn a short Powerpoint later. Besides, it's not like there's a definite shortage of chicks to knock up. Kiyoko would definitely not mind having a city's worth of kits.

If anything, this is probably one of the least upsetting things (to me) to involve Cait because now I know what to expect in the possible final product. Now, if only that same amount of thought and attention be brought into other insignificant things like Atugia, Berwyn, Quintillus, Arona, the actual combat system, making the worldbuilding make more sense, actually having some level of player agency, then that would be great.

Unrelated but I find it hilarious that Garth only ever confronts you for knocking up his daughter once. Guess he must really like his 20 or so grandchildren I sired lmao.

 

[doomdoging1]

Commonly acceptable optimized gameplay.

Submissive PC go full on Brint with his Harem path

Dommy PC go full on Brienne (not sure if harem is possible other than the three cats because power fantasy is haram)

Chaotic Neutral PC fuck anything that moves along with Brint.

cept i got no intrest in males ...if they where a futa i go sub on them but not with a male

 

[Saraf]

Part of me just hopes "corrupted" Cait will be able to be knocked up by customers but not the player.
That would be the height of spiteful malice.

Her corruption concept is such a trainwreck.
Turning her away from her faith just to result in the same shit is probably the single most boring concept Savin could have thought of.
Even if he hates writing corruption content,you are telling me he cant come up with something better?
Like hell,make her an atheist(well...their equivalent,with deities being proven real and all that)who outright despises the teachings of her former patreon.
Make her go monogamous while worshipping the MC for their deeds in the here and now while becoming completely pragmatic about theology(you could even add in willingness to change her body through TF´s solely for the sake of the player to further spite her deity).
I´m spitballing but anything is more interesting than going from whore to paid whore.

 

[actualrealname]

Her corruption concept is such a trainwreck.

I mean yeah, normal Cait is a member of a sex cult that grooms children into becoming prostitutes, there's not exactly much room for corruption there. It would just be Cait except with a spiky dick.

Kind of hard to care about demons when everyone is a complete fucking sex fiend or moloch worshiper already.

 

[RenH]

Part of me just hopes "corrupted" Cait will be able to be knocked up by customers but not the player.
That would be the height of spiteful malice.

Her corruption concept is such a trainwreck.
Turning her away from her faith just to result in the same shit is probably the single most boring concept Savin could have thought of.
Even if he hates writing corruption content,you are telling me he cant come up with something better?
Like hell,make her an atheist(well...their equivalent,with deities being proven real and all that)who outright despises the teachings of her former patreon.
Make her go monogamous while worshipping the MC for their deeds in the here and now while becoming completely pragmatic about theology(you could even add in willingness to change her body through TF´s solely for the sake of the player to further spite her deity).
I´m spitballing but anything is more interesting than going from whore to paid whore.

wtf I like Cait now? At least, this Cait.

 

[RenH]

I mean yeah, normal Cait is a member of a sex cult that grooms children into becoming prostitutes, there's not exactly much room for corruption there. It would just be Cait except with a spiky dick.

Kind of hard to care about demons when everyone is a complete fucking sex fiend or moloch worshiper already.

It's even harder to care about demons when the worst thing they've done is:

• Give dicks to women without consent
• Turn bees into bimbos
• Rape the party upon losing...which isn't any different from losing to the other mobs
• Turn the plants breed crazy
• Topple a kingdom that was already going to be toppled anyway

I could go on but the point is it's really hard to care about the demonic invasion. The actual worst thing they've done could be seen in the centaur village, which I'd argue is a rare moment of corruption done right (probably). If the gods themselves don't care too much, why should you?

Besides, unlike in CoC where you are transported from another dimension into the already corrupted realm of Mareth, CoC 2 has you play as a native. This assumption is made because iirc Cait mentions that the horse-dicked futa portal made the MC extremely susceptible to TFs when consuming things that normally don't transform people. Yet, no one bats an eye as you transform into all sorts of different forms, change from male to female and vice-versa. No one's freaked out nor mentions anything about it.

The bridge suspending my disbelief is falling apart at this top-tier worldbuilding.

 

[Konstantinus]

It's even harder to care about demons when the worst thing they've done is:

• Give dicks to women without consent
• Turn bees into bimbos
• Rape the party upon losing...which isn't any different from losing to the other mobs
• Turn the plants breed crazy
• Topple a kingdom that was already going to be toppled anyway

I could go on but the point is it's really hard to care about the demonic invasion. The actual worst thing they've done could be seen in the centaur village, which I'd argue is a rare moment of corruption done right (probably). If the gods themselves don't care too much, why should you?

Besides, unlike in CoC where you are transported from another dimension into the already corrupted realm of Mareth, CoC 2 has you play as a native. This assumption is made because iirc Cait mentions that the horse-dicked futa portal made the MC extremely susceptible to TFs when consuming things that normally don't transform people. Yet, no one bats an eye as you transform into all sorts of different forms, change from male to female and vice-versa. No one's freaked out nor mentions anything about it.

The bridge suspending my disbelief is falling apart at this top-tier worldbuilding.

Wait we where natives? I really thought we came from the same place as the previous protagonist, a village of heroes like in Testament of Sister new devil or Suppose a Kid from the Last Dungeon Boonies moved to a Starter Town.

 

[NODOGAN]

I'd still take Lilith's throne over TiTs / CoC2 any day.
That one's way too good, they just need some optimizations and a damn update schedule.
It updates every damn century.

Amen to that, add on the fact they let you personalize EVERYTHING both from your char to the random NPCs you encounter and the tier from best to worst Personalized Porn Game goes:
Gold-Tier: Lilith's Throne.
Silver-Tier: TITS.
Bronze Tier: CoC2.
Also yeah i know Inoxia takes forever to update her damn game but i'll give her credit where credit's fucking due: SHE DIDN'T MADE DOUBLE-PENIS A THING AND THEN LEFT IT WITH ONLY 0.00001% OF CONTENT AVAILABLE IN THE FUCKING GAME UNLIKE SOME OTHER PEOPLE RIGHT SAVIN?¡

It's even harder to care about demons when the worst thing they've done is:

• Give dicks to women without consent
• Turn bees into bimbos
• Rape the party upon losing...which isn't any different from losing to the other mobs
• Turn the plants breed crazy
• Topple a kingdom that was already going to be toppled anyway

Can we add to that fact that for any intents and purposes Kitsune are pretty much a stable demon poppulation already living in this world and these halpless writters want you to side with them claiming that SOMEHOW they different? they're not...they just have like 10+ paragraphs of philosophic masturbation to end saying "we also don't have soul and survive on semen"

 

[actualrealname]

It's even harder to care about demons when the worst thing they've done is:

Ye exactly, like they could have just called themselves mallach worshippers and no-one would even have noticed, they don't really seem to do anything that others don't. Would have been a better twist if the gods were demons instead of wraiths I feel, let the world already be corrupted, just in less obviously evil ways than coc1 showed.

 

[NODOGAN]

Ye exactly, like they could have just called themselves mallach worshippers and no-one would even have noticed, they don't really seem to do anything that others don't. Would have been a better twist if the gods were demons instead of wraiths I feel, let the world already be corrupted, just in less obviously evil ways than coc1 showed.

THIS DUDE GETS IT!
Lol jokes aside that's actually a very clever twist, one i feel would have resonated with us players way more...let it be said CoC2 is like the new Star Wars Trilogy as in "it's best seen when you turn your brain off, cuz if the brain's on then you'll find plot-holes every 5 minutes."

 

[Raf-Raf]

THIS DUDE GETS IT!
Lol jokes aside that's actually a very clever twist, one i feel would have resonated with us players way more...let it be said CoC2 is like the new Star Wars Trilogy as in "it's best seen when you turn your brain off, cuz if the brain's on then you'll find plot-holes every 5 minutes."

This seems like a better story than this piece of shit.

Whore wars Trilogy

Then the movie quote will be like:

"It's the best when they turn their brain off because everyone's going to fuck holes every 5 minutes."

 

[RenH]

Can we add to that fact that for any intents and purposes Kitsune are pretty much a stable demon poppulation already living in this world and these halpless writters want you to side with them claiming that SOMEHOW they different? they're not...they just have like 10+ paragraphs of philosophic masturbation to end saying "we also don't have soul and survive on semen"

It's all a Demonic conspiracy to replace the Kitsune from their God given rights for the D! These demons that have entered illegally into our territory and forcing us to mingle with the dreaded Outsiders whose lands we inhabited for a while!

Jokes aside, remind me again why dicking down imps and honestly pretty hot demons gives you corruption but doing the same with the soulless lifeforce-draining foxes doesn't? Even pumping loads into Kiyoko grants you a temporary debuff whereas I'm pretty sure you won't get the same result with a demon.

 

[RenH]

Wait we where natives? I really thought we came from the same place as the previous protagonist, a village of heroes like in Testament of Sister new devil or Suppose a Kid from the Last Dungeon Boonies moved to a Starter Town.

I'm pretty sure that's the case though my memory is hazy since it's been a solid several months since I uninstalled it. For your sake and mine, I'll redownload it again just to confirm I'm not just talking out of my ass. Will update when I've checked.

Edit: Yup, it's official, I am not talking out of my ass.

 

[RenH]

This seems like a better story than this piece of shit.

Whore wars Trilogy

Then the movie quote will be like:

"It's the best when they turn their brain off because everyone's going to fuck holes every 5 minutes."

While I personally will avoid the game like the plague with that title, I would honestly be pleasantly surprised if the content turned out to be current CoC2 since it'd be a nice subversion of expectation.