Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.14] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Quintilus]

If you don't care about combat, and you hate the writing, and you hate all the devs, what are you playing this for? Honest question.

Because I dont care about combat, questions writing and dont care about devs.

 

[Quintilus]

If you chase them they still teleport away and you tell Cait everything's going to be okay up on a hill, then she says she's going back to town and asks to be alone for a while and you go back alone to check out the temple just in time for Kas to show up. IDK why Cait is in that scene because the one right before it strongly implies that you two split up and your there alone but I doubt it'll get changed even if someone brings it up on the CoC2 forum.

Or that "split up" means "I will be close enough, there".
And its important nuance for the main plot. It should be fixed...or there are something fishy goings on...

It's most likely that not enough people have seen it

What, I am the only that seen this text from whole player base? Unless this player base is like 7 humans, and all posts here/on forum/twitter/etc are made by bots.

 

[Kroenen12]

Though Wsan does not seem to like corruption content much so I suppose it sucks for the dudes who wanted that route.

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[Konstantinus]

While in that orb unless I missed something I barely remember anything when resembling "parenting"

You missed something. In the events regarding Kinus growth she tend to you in slightly less then half of the events. If you are a mage or have Scholar oder Noble Background you are even able to teach her on things she stucks figuring out herself immedeataly but being to pridefull to ask her mother for in one of the events and in another one if you are mage you are able to teach her magic.

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

You missed something. In the events regarding Kinus growth she tend to you in slightly less then half of the events. If you are a mage or have Scholar oder Noble Background you are even able to teach her on things she stucks figuring out herself immedeataly but being to pridefull to ask her mother for in one of the events and in another one if you are mage you are able to teach her magic.

I'm a arcanist blackmage but I definitely got no such event. In fact I find this surprising seeing how it feels like half the time class and background rarely come into play in events.

In fact I think I can count on one hand maybe two the amount of time they even played a part in anything. Maybe others are referenced more since I don't play them.

The one off the top of my head is a two parter. When fighting rin's grandmother. She called my mc a black mage instead of his name and if you beat her using banishment rin actually praises the mc on his arcane ability.

In trying to think of somewhere else, I assume the white haired lupine should but I'm not one for gay content and since I play a male character I rarely interact with him. I say rarely because I do want to break his master, she can get it.

I can't remember if evergreen ever made a reference to the mc class or background. I also don't remember any demons doing it so yea I'm drawing blanks here.

 

[Konstantinus]

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Looks good so far though I am councerned about Savin's help.

I'm a arcanist blackmage but I definitely got no such event. In fact I find this surprising seeing how it feels like half the time class and background rarely come into play in events.

Yeah sadly you missed something there. Those two events where really good and make the way she turns against you even worse.

Personally, I'll only replay this game once the /cocg/ mod will have implemented Kinu smashing. Mostly out of spite. Because I'm petty like that.

I agree with you. Originally I merely wanted to have a good relationship with her and if she is needed to marry at least have a word about it. But now because of him I now really want to go the Monster Girl Encyclopedia way. So far I just let them in the amulett because now out of spite against Tobs and will only let them out when someone fixes the shit with mods.

 

[King_Ogre]

What, I am the only that seen this text from whole player base? Unless this player base is like 7 humans, and all posts here/on forum/twitter/etc are made by bots.

BEEP-BOOP-BEEP

Now being serious. How many of us actually deal with the tutoral? Or how many of us actually read the word diarrhea coded in the game (that isn't porn or at all)?

 

[King_Ogre]

I'm a arcanist blackmage but I definitely got no such event. In fact I find this surprising seeing how it feels like half the time class and background rarely come into play in events.

Then you missed the whole plot and the issue of the rage. Also, the parenting events are RNG-enerated so if you rush the orb quest you miss most if not all the plot.

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

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Yeah sadly you missed something there. Those two events where really good and make the way she turns against you even worse.

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Since I've basically just been ignoring the kitsune crap after I looked asked about the engagement and did the stupid head petting event. How far does the whole betrayal thing actually go?

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

Then you missed the whole plot and the issue of the rage. Also, the parenting events are RNG-enerated so if you rush the orb quest you miss most if not all the plot. View attachment 1630583

I didn't rush it though in fact it was one of the things I drew out the longest because I was according going to deal with the kitsune den.
I saw a lot of events like her going to get a knife and her mother getting onto her.

Her trying deciding to eat a vegetable or plant it to have more, her wanting to hold the baby, rushing into the birthing room, etc.

It's also possible I just don't remember it

 

[King_Ogre]

I didn't rush it though in fact it was one of the things I drew out the longest because I was according going to deal with the kitsune den.
I saw a lot of events like her going to get a knife and her mother getting onto her.

Her trying deciding to eat a vegetable or plant it to have more, her wanting to hold the baby, rushing into the birthing room, etc.

It's also possible I just don't remember it

I went through all the events in order to get the issue of the rage, so here's the main "meanings" of some of them
-Basic-
Kinu wants to be more mature in order to make her mom proud
-Kitchen event
instruments-
if positive relationship
-Kinu learns to play Koto harp
If negative
-Kinu learns to play the Sakuhachi (in spite of her mother control)
-Learning-
If MC is
>Scion
-Kinu learns that pride can be the dawnfall of anyone, and that she needs to be regal but not arrogant
>Scholar
-Kinu learns that Knowledge is good, but wisdommust be gained through life
>Mage
-Kinu learns magic and that power needs to be honed and not be bragged about (supplementary education side, and a UR escene where the MC teaches her magic)
-Martial-
>Kiyoko teaches Kinu the use of the weapons
>MC can decide wich one she will use in the following
-Bow (perks if you have ranged MC or hunter origin), MC teaches her the proper use of the bow and tells her mother that she's still too young to learn on a proper rythm.
-Naginata (de facto)
-Story-
-Kinu's relationship modifiers-
-Make up. and how she can be authentic or use it to improve her trickery
-Smiles. She learns to either be frank and smile when is true, or be polite and keep doing it (even if it means that is a facade)
-Education: If you're educated you can help her with her homework (demerit, because you must tell her to go with her mother)
-Asagiri's punishment: In that event you were falsely accused for stealing you can etiher cover her asking for a brive (positive) or drag her to clean your name (Negative but the right hing to do)
-The Scarf (I can't recall the name of the NPC but the event goes with the following): her younger brother goes with Kinu to mend hir tattered scarf (that Kinu made) In there you can decide 3 outcomes.
-Toss it (Positive. because Kinu is a heartless bitch)
-Mend it (Negative, because Kinu mustn't need to feel empathy=
-Make a new one (Negative, because Kinu is her mother's maid, not your siblings)

(and the heaviest modifier)-

this event can define how kinu will get out of the orb by the following:
Forgive Kiyoko for her jelousy: by telling her that is OK to be too constrictive because you understand she knows best for her
Tell her that you hate her: She becomes more independent but sours Kinu's and Kiyoko relationship to the point of no return.

There some more but the main issue is that those events are suprisingly very well written and when you realize that everythingyou invested means fucking nothing it enrages even the mos kind of the players,

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

I went through all the events in order to get the issue of the rage, so here's the main "meanings" of some of them
-Basic-
Kinu wants to be more mature in order to make her mom proud
-Kitchen event
instruments-
if positive relationship
-Kinu learns to play Koto harp
If negative
-Kinu learns to play the Sakuhachi (in spite of her mother control)
-Learning-
If MC is
>Scion
-Kinu learns that pride can be the dawnfall of anyone, and that she needs to be regal but not arrogant
>Scholar
-Kinu learns that Knowledge is good, but wisdommust be gained through life
>Mage
-Kinu learns magic and that power needs to be honed and not be bragged about (supplementary education side, and a UR escene where the MC teaches her magic)
-Martial-
>Kiyoko teaches Kinu the use of the weapons
>MC can decide wich one she will use in the following
-Bow (perks if you have ranged MC or hunter origin), MC teaches her the proper use of the bow and tells her mother that she's still too young to learn on a proper rythm.
-Naginata (de facto)
-Story-
-Kinu's relationship modifiers-
-Make up. and how she can be authentic or use it to improve her trickery
-Smiles. She learns to either be frank and smile when is true, or be polite and keep doing it (even if it means that is a facade)
-Education (and the heaviest modifier)-

this event can define how kinu will get out of the orb by the following:
Forgive Kiyoko for her jelousy: by telling her that is OK to be too constrictive because you understand she knows best for her
Tell her that you hate her: She becomes more independent but sours Kinu's and Kiyoko relationship to the point of no return.

There some more but the main issue is that those events are suprisingly very well written and when you realize that everythingyou invested means fucking nothin enrages even the mos kind of the players,

Ok, so I definitely don't remember receiving some of those event.. But kinu an kiyoko definitely hate don't like each other in my playthrough. I mostly got a lot of the generic events when I interacted with Kinu so I'm guessing the rng gods just didn't favor me it seems. Wouldn't be the first time.

Either way I get why people are mad.

 

[ankhtar]

It is a shame, because Kiyoko is, in my opinion, really well written even if I'm not at all into the whole pregnancy thing. I was expecting to at least have a decent parent-daughter relationship with Kinu as well, but the way it was handled, especially after all the parenting moments we have to go through to have her become one way or another, just ends up feeling like Tobs dropped his trousers and took a monumental shit of epic proportions on the players. The way the whole kitsune den (except maybe Kohaku and Kuro) treats the MC despite him/her being the right hand of their literal fucking deity, who they claim to revere, felt like further shit was dropped on the players, like the man downed several bottles of laxatives for that singular purpose.

At this point, I'm hoping the mod authors (despite their alleged inability to also give a shit about the players) make it possible to thoroughly destroy Kinu in the horizontal way, maybe even Komari while the rest of the den watches while they're at it. I'm not even particularly interested in it, I just want to spite Tobs, have him taste his own salt for once, see how fun he finds it.

 

[Quintilus]

have a decent parent-daughter relationship

We dont do that here.

 

[Konstantinus]

We dont do that here.

Without Sex.

Since I've basically just been ignoring the kitsune crap after I looked asked about the engagement and did the stupid head petting event. How far does the whole betrayal thing actually go?

If you go to the path where Kinu has good relationship with Kiyoko Kinu will not let you pet her tail, marries and defend an asshole that says, your heroic deeds could have be done by anyone, blame you for not meeting her for many decades and so left her alone until she whas grown up and even your wife tells you the guy that she marries and ridicules you is a good match as he reminds her of someone else and that you have no right in this decicion as you are only a northener.

 

[Fiz1247]

Ok, so I definitely don't remember receiving some of those event.. But kinu an kiyoko definitely hate don't like each other in my playthrough. I mostly got a lot of the generic events when I interacted with Kinu so I'm guessing the rng gods just didn't favor me it seems. Wouldn't be the first time.

Either way I get why people are mad.

I can tell you are new to the game if you don't know about Tobs-Kinu fiasco. I would suggest you read the older pages of this forum and be redpilled about the fact that Kinu content is only meant to spite you instead of please you.

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

I can tell you are new to the game if you don't know about Tobs-Kinu fiasco. I would suggest you read the older pages of this forum and be redpilled about the fact that Kinu content is only meant to spite you instead of please you.

New to the game new, I was around since coc.

Actually interacting with the actual devs and fandom? Then yes.

Also if you got pages let me know them, with that said, can't red pill someone on something they don't care for. I can't make me hate the kitsune stuff even more and it's not like if I do a second run of the game I'll bother with it at all.

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

Without Sex.

If you go to the path where Kinu has good relationship with Kiyoko Kinu will not let you pet her tail, marries and defend an asshole that says, your heroic deeds could have be done by anyone, blame you for not meeting her for many decades and so left her alone until she whas grown up and even your wife tells you the guy that she marries and ridicules you is a good match as he reminds her of someone else and that you have no right in this decicion as you are only a northener.

Ok wtf?
I mean you already get half of that except.
Wait does an marry a different guy? Because mine is she marries.the farmer dude, kiyoko hates him because "he lacks ambition". And you're not given the choice to tell either of them to fuck off and die if that's what they think?

Is this supposed to be a deprecation and emotional humiliation fetish or something?

 

[arls120]

Ok wtf?
I mean you already get half of that except.
Wait does an marry a different guy? Because mine is she marries.the farmer dude, kiyoko hates him because "he lacks ambition". And you're not given the choice to tell either of them to fuck off and die if that's what they think?

Is this supposed to be a deprecation and emotional humiliation fetish or something?

If Tobs believes that being a good father is that. I think he may have some serious fathering issues.

 

[King_Ogre]

Ok wtf?
I mean you already get half of that except.
Wait does an marry a different guy? Because mine is she marries.the farmer dude, kiyoko hates him because "he lacks ambition". And you're not given the choice to tell either of them to fuck off and die if that's what they think?

Is this supposed to be a deprecation and emotional humiliation fetish or something?

Yes.
Hime kinu engages herself with Kirito McSperg, and acts like a bitch.
Ground founded Kinu is a farmer that engages herself with a guy that has the personality of a brick

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But she's more lovely and sort of more attentive to you and the natives