Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.14] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Fiz1247]

Actually interacting with the actual devs and fandom? Then yes.

New to the game new, I was around since coc.

Actually interacting with the actual devs and fandom? Then yes.

Also if you got pages let me know them, with that said, can't red pill someone on something they don't care for. I can't make me hate the kitsune stuff even more and it's not like if I do a second run of the game I'll bother with it at all.

There are many pages spanning this discussion and the topic has the tendency to be recycled again but I will try to give the short of it
>Savin plans to make Incest content with Helspawn in Coc1
>Fans ask him about its progress. Savin spergs out about it then drama ensues and it was never finished
>TheObserver writer from another another game FoE unrelated to CoC has a hate boner from that drama against those Incest fans even though Savin probably moved on
>Tobs writes the character Cassidy in FoE out of spite

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>His hateboner carries on to CoC2 and still spites that CoC1 group by creating this character called Kinu
>Tries to implicitly shame you for being a grooming bastard but commissions art for Kinu being banged by Nakano/Hitoshi and your second daughter that you will never interact with in game by a random wolf guy
There you have it. I should not have missed any details. There are still random tidbits here and there that make his content specifically kitsunes cancer but that's the gist of it.There's general distrust atleast for me that whatever his new content will be It will be salt-mining as usual.

 

[arls120]

If you ever think of writing content for your peers' kids like quin or bring that Tobs wouldn't even think of showing up. I didn't give birth to those assholes to make me all that drama.

 

[King_Ogre]

There are many pages spanning this discussion and the topic has the tendency to be recycled again but I will try to give the short of it
>Savin plans to make Incest content with Helspawn in Coc1
>Fans ask him about its progress. Savin spergs out about it then drama ensues and it was never finished
>TheObserver writer from another another game FoE unrelated to CoC has a hate boner from that drama against those Incest fans even though Savin probably moved on
>Tobs writes the character Cassidy in FoE out of spite

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>His hateboner carries on to CoC2 and still spites that CoC1 group by creating this character called Kinu
>Tries to implicitly shame you for being a grooming bastard but commissions art for Kinu being banged by Nakano/Hitoshi and your second daughter that you will never interact with in game by a random wolf guy
There you have it. I should not have missed any details. There are still random tidbits here and there that make his content specifically kitsunes cancer but that's the gist of it.

You have quote ancient lore.

 

[Kroenen12]

Looks good so far though I am councerned about Savin's help.

Oh savin's "help" gets worse...

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[Fiz1247]

Oh savin's "help" gets worse...

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Man can't wait to watch them lez out while I rub myself in the corner

 

[King_Ogre]

Oh savin's "help" gets worse...

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And here we go... I hate being correct...

 

[Quintilus]

There aren't many games like this in the market or some of them like TiTS or Lillith's Throne is having a long pause of content.

Define what you mean by "like this"?
Lot of characters? They almost the same, even if you count "girl with a dick" as personality trait.
Maybe than cartoonish characters have something other than personality? Most of characters here are as deep as cunt of a virgin, both in sense of sex options and history.
Maybe lot of fetishes? Yes, we have here rape, rape, rape and rape....did I mentioned rape?? I hope I did.
Interesting, or at least some, story? Just an invasion of corrupting demon. Nothing special, since nobody mind it, usual wednesday, you know...
Maybe the way its written are interesting? Of course it is, since you can see, with you own eyes, how character refer to himself in first, second and third person in a single sentence.

And IMO Lilith Throne by a 46 heads and one ear taller than COC2 and TITS in every way.

 

[Biostar]

That's complicated?

For this game? Yes. The most complicated it can get is you have to do some task for the NPC before you can plow them. Subtle mindplay like you want is beyond the writers.

Is there though? While in that orb unless I missed something I barely remember anything when resembling "parenting". Just playing with and giving your child stuff does not equate to parenting. I don't remember the mc ever once actually teaching his daughter anything or even just being a authority figure.

I do remember that some of the events that trigger in the astral plane have you influence her one way or the other depending on your choices. It's been too long for me to remember specifically which though.

 

[throbzombie]

Yes, we have here rape, rape, rape and rape....did I mentioned rape

There's not that much rape in this one, really. It's mostly traditional Savarran "semi-consensual" sex.

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

Ok, I did both a forum search and a wiki search and a I can doe is raise my eyebrow. He says kinu is suppose to be a story of a child moving t out of their parents shadow but in what way?

The princess basically a mirror of the mother from how are acts to from what in reading how she talks. While the farmer while acts different still has the same mindset of her mother. Hell the description even points out that she tends to come to similar conclusiona. While still ontop of that still sticking to her mother's traditions, sticking to that culture. The wiki isn't showing anything about her trying to escape the very thing that makes her mother her mother or even looking to explore anything about her father's cultures or beliefs. Hell I just did a page search the words "dad" 'father" and dad shows up 3 times while father shows up only once and all of then are in some fluff.


"Resentful relationship with her mother. Comes to similar conclusions as Kiyoko does, but through her own lines of reasoning."

For this game? Yes. The most complicated it can get is you have to do some task for the NPC before you can plow them. Subtle mindplay like you want is beyond the writers.

I do remember that some of the events that trigger in the astral plane have you influence her one way or the other depending on your choices. It's been too long for me to remember specifically which though.

Really this came is the same people who made the first correct? There was scenes with subtle manipulation in the first game (maybe not necessarily good). The female dog with the farm, using the coin as a focal point to slowly change the mentality of the software to make her more into a Dom or my personal favorite, a submissive little bitch.

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

There are many pages spanning this discussion and the topic has the tendency to be recycled again but I will try to give the short of it
>Savin plans to make Incest content with Helspawn in Coc1
>Fans ask him about its progress. Savin spergs out about it then drama ensues and it was never finished
>TheObserver writer from another another game FoE unrelated to CoC has a hate boner from that drama against those Incest fans even though Savin probably moved on
>Tobs writes the character Cassidy in FoE out of spite

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(Information of note section)
>His hateboner carries on to CoC2 and still spites that CoC1 group by creating this character called Kinu
>Tries to implicitly shame you for being a grooming bastard but commissions art for Kinu being banged by Nakano/Hitoshi and your second daughter that you will never interact with in game by a random wolf guy
There you have it. I should not have missed any details. There are still random tidbits here and there that make his content specifically kitsunes cancer but that's the gist of it.There's general distrust atleast for me that whatever his new content will be It will be salt-mining as usual.

Now my next question should be obvious, are they paid by Savin or is this volunteer/work for exposure work? Because if they are his actual employees why isn't he putting his foot down. And stopping the shit? He does realize that he's not just some dude on the internet but a literal actual brand, right? From what I'm hearing they are doing damage to his Brand's identity.

 

[Based Department]

I have some bad news for you

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>doesn't want to
hmm

 

[Basty96]

Now my next question should be obvious, are they paid by Savin or is this volunteer/work for exposure work? Because if they are his actual employees why isn't he putting his foot down. And stopping the shit? He does realize that he's not just some dude on the internet but a literal actual brand, right? From what I'm hearing they are doing damage to his Brand's identity.

Because Savin is a Fag with the Backbone strength of a cooked spaghetti and no iirc the only one in this project who worked on the original CoC is Savin

 

[Fiz1247]

Now my next question should be obvious, are they paid by Savin or is this volunteer/work for exposure work? Because if they are his actual employees why isn't he putting his foot down. And stopping the shit? He does realize that he's not just some dude on the internet but a literal actual brand, right? From what I'm hearing they are doing damage to his Brand's identity.

He is part of Savin's working staff and has most contribution to the game. Why Savin doesnot sanction him? It's a mystery. Savin has poor developement and management skills and OKs everything by his writers without reviewing if the snippets here of their circle jerking hang out is anything to go by.Any criticism or differing ideas or suggestions are censored in their forums. Unfortunately their paypigs are the most gullible people ever because of the massive popularity of their previous Ips or just too oblivious to even call them out on that (except the ones who post patreon versions here). If anything their patreon keeps growing. Most of us are here for like the 25% of the good content the game offers.

 

[throbzombie]

He is part of Savin's working staff and has most contribution to the game.

Doesn't Tobs work for free on his own insistence?

 

[Fiz1247]

Doesn't Tobs work for free on his own insistence?

Yes, he promoted to full-time member later on

 

[desmosome]

I only have experience with Hime Kinu. While I get what they are going for with the character, it's the preachy, aloof, and elitist tone she often takes when talking to the MC that kinda annoys me. It doesn't matter if he is an outsider. In Japanese culture (and more broadly, Asian cultures), which the foxes are entirely based on, you need to defer to your parents and give them the utmost respect, especially in the more old school and pre-westernized versions of these cultures. I guess Tobs intentionally writes the MC to be a bumbling fool when dealing with the Kitsune to justify how casually they view him. It's not even that the MC just married into the family as a step father or something. He is her biological father.

This fucking asswipe Nakano lol. How can he openly show contempt and disrespect the MC, who is going to be his father in law, and is the husband of their Queen or whatever? It seems unthinkable that he can act like that. Seeing as this asshole shows no respect to the MC, we should absolutely have a say in the matter of Kinu's marriage. Depicting the Kitsune as traditional Japanese brings with it some expectations. Marriage is much mroe than 2 people falling in love. Parents have a huge amount of say in the matter, to the point where it is essentially not possible to marry someone without their approval (unless you cut ties and get disowned or something). You can't just conveniently pull the independence card, which is a western thing. You can't have it both ways.

This is coming from someone who doesn't just blindly hate Tobs or Kitsune content as a whole.

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

He is part of Savin's working staff and has most contribution to the game. Why Savin doesnot sanction him? It's a mystery. Savin has poor developement and management skills and OKs everything by his writers without reviewing if the snippets here of their circle jerking hang out is anything to go by.Any criticism or differing ideas or suggestions are censored in their forums. Unfortunately their paypigs are the most gullible people ever because of the massive popularity of their previous Ips or just too oblivious to even call them out on that (except the ones who post patreon versions here). If anything their patreon keeps growing. Most of us are here for like the 25% of the good content the game offers.

You know reading this actually piqued my curiosity, so I decided to visit their patreo. For the first time... 30k a fucking month...

...between this shit and what I saw breeding seasons was making, it's getting fucking to talk myself out of just starting a patreon and making furry porn art. Because it just seems like that dominates people's revenue these past couple of years.

 

[Fiz1247]

You know reading this actually piqued my curiosity, so I decided to visit their patreo. For the first time... 30k a fucking month...

...between this shit and what I saw breeding seasons was making, it's getting fucking to talk myself out of just starting a patreon and making furry porn art. Because it just seems like that dominates people's revenue these past couple of years.

Go for it lol. There are literal scams in this site itself that make around 4 figures atleast

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

I only have experience with Hime Kinu. While I get what they are going for with the character, it's the preachy, aloof, and elitist tone she often takes when talking to the MC that kinda annoys me. It doesn't matter if he is an outsider. In Japanese culture (and more broadly, Asian cultures), which the foxes are entirely based on, you need to defer to your parents and give them the utmost respect, especially in the more old school and pre-westernized versions of these cultures. I guess Tobs intentionally writes the MC to be a bumbling fool when dealing with the Kitsune to justify how casually they view him. It's not even that the MC just married into the family as a step father or something. He is her biological father.

This fucking asswipe Nakano lol. How can he openly show contempt and disrespect the MC, who is going to be his father in law, and is the husband of their Queen or whatever? It seems unthinkable that he can act like that. Seeing as this asshole shows no respect to the MC, we should absolutely have a say in the matter of Kinu's marriage. Depicting the Kitsune as traditional Japanese brings with it some expectations. Marriage is much mroe than 2 people falling in love. Parents have a huge amount of say in the matter, to the point where it is essentially not possible to marry someone without their approval (unless you cut ties and get disowned or something). You can't just conveniently pull the independence card, which is a western thing. You can't have it both ways.

This is coming from someone who doesn't just blindly hate Tobs or Kitsune content as a whole.

Honestly ive been wonder if kiyoko even loves or gives a damn about the mc, because outside of wanting to fuck, she shows no respect to the mc. She wears a mask of love and concern but that's just what that is, a mask. I don't think o once saw her actually come to the mc defense or support him when being insulted . On fact as pointed out, she joins in when it happens and publically does it herself. The mc isn't a husband, he's a pet... And again I have to stretch the issue that this is happening in his own country, not there's. They are the colonizers, the Invaders, the foreigners showing massive disrespect to the locals of the land.

Especially if the mc accepts the title and becomes a Baron. Literal wars we're started for less.

Hell even rin, told her own guards to get out the way when they tried to stop the mc from entering a meeting between her people, a meeting that could be rightfully argued that he had no business participating in.