Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.14] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Raf-Raf]

That seems like the classic manipulation strat.

For corrupting them:
What I'd want as a bad good person that I am is probably me going to do everything I can to make sure they fall harder and harder to the point where they start becoming obsessed with us and seeing anyone else as their rivals in their way of love.
Yandere / Psychos never get boring to watch, just the fact that they'd do ANYTHING to ensure their plan works has always been interesting for me.

Do everything I can to make sure they feel loved except they'd never get to do it, make 'em feel as close as I can w/o really giving them the thing they really want.
Kind of like the carrot and a stick, they'll never reach the carrot at the end unless I want them to then hang out with the others and show it to them so they feel like they're lacking something and that should turn it to an obsession that'll go from a simple one to an insane and twisted one.
It's PERFECT!!!

 

[Daken9]

Savin loves Brint and used to love Brienne because of her art. But he hates that to get Brienne you have to put Brint into an armor and be willfully neglectful of what's happening to him while the armor overwrites his entire personality from a carefree dudebro into someone utterly obsessed with and devoted to a single person, in this case the champ. Brienne is the personification of that Spongebob meme where Patrick says that all he does in his free time is wait for Spongebob to get back. He agrees that it would have been much better for Brienne to be an option when first meeting the mino in the Old Forest and have her be like Lyric where gender is the only variable with the same personality barring the obvious differences in mentality between minotaurs and cowgirls but that ship has long since sailed.

The morality of Brint's transformation is still a common point of contention in the discord channel and it's not just Savin being mad butthurt about it. Just because you absolutely love something does not mean that other's reasons for not liking it are invalid because you deem them too simple for complex thought.

Dunno. While i do agree that Brint's 'turn' in itself does take some pretty meta neglectfulness, i wouldn't say his personality shift was wholly ingrained in the armor, or that indeed doesn't make sense.

I mean, guess it comes down to opinions, but considering mino societal values and how much Brint embodied them with his whole carefree stud persona, i don't think it's that out there that his female self would conform to her new 'role' pretty quick. Not like either of them are the most complex of characters.

Plus, really, while it once again comes down to interpretations, always made sense to me that Brienne's praise kink actually stemmed from a degradation kink, from having gone from 'alpha male' to 'good cow'. Which i think fits pretty well with how Brint was (read, his kinkiness) and makes for a pretty neat (read, hot) tie between the two.

 

[Konstantinus]

About Corruption there is one thing I wonder. If Wsan can really pull it off and we get mamonolike Demonbrienne, what about her mom and sister? Will they accept her like this? Would they even want to be part of three-/foursomes with her like this? Or do we need to corrupt her family for this too and invite them to wayford?

 

[M0nte]

I always though the reason for why Brienne becomes so submissive was because of the armor. Like, it is all fine and dandy if you want to argue that Brint and Brienne represent two side of the same societies coin, but at the end of the day, the quick 180 is as jarring as it is effective in getting people to like Brienne. Because, really, would most people be receptive to her if she was anywhere near the amount of a ho like her male counterpart?

In all likelihood, Wsan figured out that a waifu character would get him more clout than someone like Cait (which is what Brint is when it comes to champion/NPC relation) so he just wrote that. Not calling out the guy or anything, smart from his side. I just prefer it when genderbend is equal when it comes to personality and content like Lyric, Liulfr or future Berwyn epansion.

Personally, I would like if Brint was less of a ho. Not to the etent of Brienne or anything (tho having a big tittied bara dude obsessed with you has its charms) but, you know, just less. To Berwyn level.

 

[TravissPastrami]

Savin loves Brint and used to love Brienne because of her art. But he hates that to get Brienne you have to put Brint into an armor and be willfully neglectful of what's happening to him while the armor overwrites his entire personality from a carefree dudebro into someone utterly obsessed with and devoted to a single person, in this case the champ. Brienne is the personification of that Spongebob meme where Patrick says that all he does in his free time is wait for Spongebob to get back. He agrees that it would have been much better for Brienne to be an option when first meeting the mino in the Old Forest and have her be like Lyric where gender is the only variable with the same personality barring the obvious differences in mentality between minotaurs and cowgirls but that ship has long since sailed.

The morality of Brint's transformation is still a common point of contention in the discord channel and it's not just Savin being mad butthurt about it. Just because you absolutely love something does not mean that other's reasons for not liking it are invalid because you deem them too simple for complex thought.

It is what it is, people should get over it. It's a choice, with plenty of warning, for a reason. If you don't like Brienne, just keep Brint. And if you don't like Brint, it's easy to just head down and get the armor and get Brienne. Wsan wrote his character the way he wanted, and we can like it or not, but at the end of the day it's his character.

 

[arls120]

Personally, I would like if Brint was less of a ho. Not to the etent of Brienne or anything (tho having a big tittied bara dude obsessed with you has its charms) but, you know, just less. To Berwyn level.

If I'm waiting for Wsan to add that kind of content in the city of minotaurs like a date when brint formalizes the relationship with the champion or a continuation of the christmas event where brint gives you a ring and says he will give it to you. . something better when they get to khorminus. Of course I'm not saying that he only has sex with the champion, but it's something like that he began to reduce his sexual relations with others a little or that he began to use contraceptives if he has any relationship other than with the champion.

Another thing I'm also looking forward to is the more masculine version of Berwyn, although I guess that will never happen.

 

[ASDF_THE_Epic]

is there a place to buy wood, stone, and metal instead of trying to grind for them

 

[Konstantinus]

Another thing I'm also looking forward to is the more masculine version of Berwyn, although I guess that will never happen.

I guess so too as there is talk to give him the same treatment option as Brint.

is there a place to buy wood, stone, and metal instead of trying to grind for them

Ambra sometimes and during the quest of upgrading the wayfort, from Svern, Hatsumomo and the Minoguards in the Foothillst.

 

[M0nte]

Another thing I'm also looking forward to is the more masculine version of Berwyn, although I guess that will never happen.

Unfortunately, that aint happening. B already decided that that is not something he is going to tackle because he already wrote over 80 000 words of Berwyn contnent, already has to tackle over 11 parsers/variations when it comes to tekst and is not something that the general audience would want. So feminization is all he is getting.

If I'm waiting for Wsan to add that kind of content in the city of minotaurs like a date when brint formalizes the relationship with the champion or a continuation of the christmas event where brint gives you a ring and says he will give it to you. . something better when they get to khorminus. Of course I'm not saying that he only has sex with the champion, but it's something like that he began to reduce his sexual relations with others a little or that he began to use contraceptives if he has any relationship other than with the champion.

This on other hand is sligtlt more so. Still, it is something I am guessing Wsan has no interest in also. Since apperently the whole appeal of Brint is that he fucks around. Not saying it can not happen but I highly doubt it.

 

[Daekas]

A question can be accusatory you absolute dullard.

Not if it is as obviously ironic and even stated as such, you illiterate troll.
I may be responsible for a lot of shit going down - But i ain't responsible for you two not being able to read properly.

 

[Daekas]

This on other hand is sligtlt more so. Still, it is something I am guessing Wsan has no interest in also. Since apperently the whole appeal of Brint is that he fucks around. Not saying it can not happen but I highly doubt it.

I guess so, brint was designed as shagger.

 

[Daekas]

Dunno. While i do agree that Brint's 'turn' in itself does take some pretty meta neglectfulness, i wouldn't say his personality shift was wholly ingrained in the armor, or that indeed doesn't make sense.

I mean, guess it comes down to opinions, but considering mino societal values and how much Brint embodied them with his whole carefree stud persona, i don't think it's that out there that his female self would conform to her new 'role' pretty quick. Not like either of them are the most complex of characters.

Plus, really, while it once again comes down to interpretations, always made sense to me that Brienne's praise kink actually stemmed from a degradation kink, from having gone from 'alpha male' to 'good cow'. Which i think fits pretty well with how Brint was (read, his kinkiness) and makes for a pretty neat (read, hot) tie between the two.

Makes sense, i always thought the armor was some kind of "to the opposite" thing.
Male - Female
Alpha - Trophy Slut
Dom - Sub
Bro - ..FemaleBro? Is there a word for that? .. No, i'm not looking for 'sister' -

It literally is brint just genderbent and lusting after the same things .. Only the opposite of things, i guess.

 

[TheVegnar]

Don't you just love it when they get all the content for a char, or a piece of a char, and say "Oh Noo, it is too hard to do anything elsde cause of parsers/variations, it is so complicated, even though I am getting paid for content, lets just abandon this char and move on. Why cause I said so". Remember coc1, when Fen actually used to work for a living. BOOOm content every week and lots of it. Work Work Work, Chars got done weather it was complicated or not. The only char I have seen so far worth anything is Brienne. the Fox girls just seem like if you toss enough shit onto the pile, it'll all come together. Cait (joke) ........., Azzy would be cool if you could have corrupt her, instead you get normal and bimbo and only if you choose the non corrupt path.

Atleast when that CoC2 mod takes off good, Atleast these losers will get put to shame when they get shown how real content it is done.

Comparing COC1 to COC1 mod.

 

[Kroenen12]

The morality of Brint's transformation is still a common point of contention in the discord channel and it's not just Savin being mad butthurt about it.

Isn't that just because Tobs started talking shit about Brienne?

I always though the reason for why Brienne becomes so submissive was because of the armor. Like, it is all fine and dandy if you want to argue that Brint and Brienne represent two side of the same societies coin, but at the end of the day, the quick 180 is as jarring as it is effective in getting people to like Brienne. Because, really, would most people be receptive to her if she was anywhere near the amount of a ho like her male counterpart?

Wsan said that brienne is "cursed" but we don't know what exactly this curse does.

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[Daekas]

Isn't that just because Tobs started talking shit about Brienne?

At least that's what i remember happened.
Is there something he didn't talk smack about, besides his own stuff?

 

[throbzombie]

Don't you just love it when they get all the content for a char, or a piece of a char, and say "Oh Noo, it is too hard to do anything elsde cause of parsers/variations, it is so complicated, even though I am getting paid for content, lets just abandon this char and move on. Why cause I said so". Remember coc1, when Fen actually used to work for a living. BOOOm content every week and lots of it. Work Work Work, Chars got done [whether] it was complicated or not.

Oh yeah, I remember CoC1. I remember Fen periodically e-begging back before services like Patreon existed. I remember promised content just getting abandoned out of nowhere. Threads that would never get resolved, characters who ended up unfinished. I remember when Fenoxo got bored of CoC in the middle of development and started working on another game, and only begrudgingly finished what he started when the fans who had supported him for years, both morally and financially, pestered him incessantly to finish what he started. Fen may have been less lazy than Savin in that he was willing to implement more complicated stuff, but that's about it.

Wsan said that brienne is "cursed" but we don't know what exactly this curse does.

Well, we know it turns men into women, at least.

 

[M0nte]

Wonder if there is an armor that turns girls into guys... But, eh, that is for latter.

 

[Raf-Raf]

I think I'd rather force feed them some colored eggs to turn them from one to the other.
Making another cursed armor is a ton o' work after all~~~

 

[Fiz1247]

Don't you just love it when they get all the content for a char, or a piece of a char, and say "Oh Noo, it is too hard to do anything elsde cause of parsers/variations, it is so complicated, even though I am getting paid for content, lets just abandon this char and move on. Why cause I said so". Remember coc1, when Fen actually used to work for a living. BOOOm content every week and lots of it. Work Work Work, Chars got done weather it was complicated or not. The only char I have seen so far worth anything is Brienne. the Fox girls just seem like if you toss enough shit onto the pile, it'll all come together. Cait (joke) ........., Azzy would be cool if you could have corrupt her, instead you get normal and bimbo and only if you choose the non corrupt path.

Atleast when that CoC2 mod takes off good, Atleast these losers will get put to shame when they get shown how real content it is done.

Comparing COC1 to COC1 mod.

Apparently parsers are a concern when it comes to dedicking but not when it comes to futafying.

 

[fetishgirl]

CoC has always been a futa paradise and those that prefer MxM relationships get the short end of the stick in more ways than one.If you don't like traps or bara you are kind of screwed on MxM content. For me I am not a fan of Quin, prefer Brienne to Brint and it looks like Berwyn will have far more content when disarmed. The MxM companions are not looking too great and there is no male that is purely into you which is a problem for gay or straight female players that want something similar to Brienne. *EDIT* I forgot to mention the tragedy of Garrett and his mother that ended up having one of the most unsatisfying conclusions in the game to date what a waste of time their plotlines ended up being. Also Garrett could have been a great addition to straight female players as a wild bad boy to be tamed but no the powerful adventurous puppyboy is stuck as an errand bitch.Not that pure GxG content is much better because nearly every feminine character has to have some kind of phallus. My advice to fans of either or both is to look elsewhere or to pay modders to mod the game.

On a seperate issue it just goes to show what a stupid idea it was for creators on patreon or subscribestar to offer massive rewards to have their own OCs added to the game. It leads to far too many characters and too many not fleshed out properly and main story plots being benched for months/years. I have seen this happen to far too many porn games on this website so I will defend Savin and his crew to the point of saying they aren't the only team with this problem. However Savin and his team get paid crazy amounts of money and they have a crap ton of written content that hasn't been coded in. How about firing some of the weaker writers such as Bubblelord and replacing them with coders? Either way its terrible management from the team.

Regarding transformation M0nte makes a good point why not have some female to male transformations too? After all you do know some of the most powerful spell casters within the CoC 2 lore such as Kas the deities and Evergreen. I find it crazy how many shemale characters there are in a game where you can have both genitalia. The farm owners? Why not have a buff farm owner or two hot females or the ability to corrupt them into having one or the other? Who is the writer that clearly has a massive shemale fetish? There are more MxM/GxG and straight fans than shemale fans so why have so many. I don't mind shemales but in this setting it just seems silly in a world of magic. Also the BS with Etheryn still annoys me even now, it just seems like a lazy excuse because content hadn't been written for uncaged Ryn. I also think some companions should be scrappped to flesh out others. Such as Agni and Atugia. I think Agni has been a pointless new addition. At first I was like wow she is an ancient being I am sure she can really expand the lore. Nope too old to remember anything of value and her constantly being too hot to have sex with for prolonged periods of time just make the MC look like a chump not a very sexy trait at all. Even in game mechanics she offers nothing new.