Daken9

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She's a mess is what she is. What was even the point of given her a dick in the first place when it serves no purpose (cause cage) other than messing up her elf princess aesthetic, and when on first draft she wanted it gone anyway so that she could be a real girl. Guess having it around just so she could remove it at the very end of her quest would have still been less asinine than what we'll get, but not by much.

Should've just made her female from the get-go and given her a chastity belt, if that's really necessary. Her scenes throughout would have still been inherently halfbaked but at least there would've been the promise of an actual payoff at the end of the road.
 

M0nte

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Which is...?
One is a guy, other is a girl for one. Or to put it in laments terms, while there is some cross appeal in terms of aesthetic, a dude possessing a huge ass is different in terms of appeal compared to a gal possessing a huge ass.

If Ryn was a femboy/twink/pretty boy, the elf prince would have entirely different appeal and audience. And would probably be second best boy in my book.

She's a mess is what she is. What was even the point of given her a dick in the first place when it serves no purpose (cause cage) other than messing up her elf princess aesthetic, and when on first draft she wanted it gone anyway so that she could be a real girl. Guess having it around just so she could remove it at the very end of her quest would have still been less asinine than what we'll get, but not by much.

Should've just made her female from the get-go and given her a chastity belt, if that's really necessary. Her scenes throughout would have still been inherently halfbaked but at least there would've been the promise of an actual payoff at the end of the road.
I think the whole point of Ryn is to have a subby dickgirl for the player to mold. Excluding the removal of dick, obviously.
 

Skandranon

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Ryn was originally a full male when being designed, from what Savin has said. Classic trap character. Got changed at some point in the writing.

But she was always going to be an anal focused character.
 

Daken9

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I think the whole point of Ryn is to have a subby dickgirl for the player to mold. Excluding the removal of dick, obviously.
Might be the intent, but that she originally wanted it gone coupled with that it might as well not there because of the cage works against that. And that suddenly only way to make her happy will be to let her cuck us doesn't fit with the sub angle either.

But honestly, wouldn't have been super into her even if we could've dedicked her. Female, male, futa or trap, just pick one and commit to it. If it ended up not being my thing, better than an elf with gender dysphoria in a porn setting where people can turn into women by wearing the wrong clothes.
 

Quintilus

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Or to put it in laments terms, while there is some cross appeal in terms of aesthetic, a dude possessing a huge ass is different in terms of appeal compared to a gal possessing a huge ass.
Femboy is a boi that looks like a girl, while still having a dick, regardless of its size, smol or enormous.
Futa is a girl that have a dick, again regardless of its size, smol or enormous.

Now help dora find a ryn here.
 
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Tobs:
"Kinu is ultimately a story about growing up and leaving the shadow of your parents, which is why so much of her story is told through her eyes without the involvement of the player character as the champion. It is a story about coming into your own, taking what has been handed down from those before you and passing them down to those who come after. This entire storyline where you as the champion influence her stats, skills and weapon in her childhood eventually comes full circle where she has to fight her own battles and you as the champion are not around to be in the picture all the time.

The champion's detachment in this storyline is deliberate, building up from the very first events where point-of-view swaps happen; at the end of the day, she has to struggle for her own beliefs. As the player, you're able to have agency in directing her; as the champion, much less so."


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He could have just executed it better. Why does Kinu basically act like a fricking brat in both versions of her. If ANYTHING Kinu should probably dislike her mother a bit and buck against the B.S traditions of foxingdom as she has a barbarians blood coursing thru her veins. A kinu who would have told you and asked your dang opinion on her marriage choices would make a lot more sense as she literally asked you about every dang thing in her life before that point. Tobs just wanted to force this bratty nonsense bc that's who he wanted Kinu to be. He could taken out the entire advice choice b.s during childhood and just made her a brat from get go so that people could decide whether or not to even partake in his content. You don't actually influence Kinu in any true poignant manner its all fluff. I like the idea of Kinu i just dislike Tobs execution.....I really like Rindo but i'm not gonna lie, I want someone else to write her family dynamic. I just KNOW he's gonna pull some my kid hates me for his mom being a concubine or some trash frickin annoyance
 

M0nte

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Femboy is a boi that looks like a girl...
Futa is a girl that have a dick...
I feel like you answered your question.
Might be the intent, but that she originally wanted it gone coupled with that it might as well not there because of the cage works against that. And that suddenly only way to make her happy will be to let her cuck us doesn't fit with the sub angle either.

But honestly, wouldn't have been super into her even if we could've dedicked her. Female, male, futa or trap, just pick one and commit to it. If it ended up not being my thing, better than an elf with gender dysphoria in a porn setting where people can turn into women by wearing the wrong clothes.
Yeah, agree on the front that. I enjoy the concept of my female champion having babies with Ryn, but at the expense of those that do not is not my idea of good time.
 

Skandranon

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Might be the intent, but that she originally wanted it gone coupled with that it might as well not there because of the cage works against that.
Caged dicks are a fairly common thing in sub stuff. It leans into a particular flavor of d/s stuff, but I wouldn't say it works against it in any way. The dick being there and unable to be used is important to the fetish.

Cute subby elf who relies on your help to be able to get off because she can't do it herself seems to be the target here.
 

Shiro15

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He could have just executed it better. Why does Kinu basically act like a fricking brat in both versions of her. If ANYTHING Kinu should probably dislike her mother a bit and buck against the B.S traditions of foxingdom as she has a barbarians blood coursing thru her veins. A kinu who would have told you and asked your dang opinion on her marriage choices would make a lot more sense as she literally asked you about every dang thing in her life before that point. Tobs just wanted to force this bratty nonsense bc that's who he wanted Kinu to be. He could taken out the entire advice choice b.s during childhood and just made her a brat from get go so that people could decide whether or not to even partake in his content. You don't actually influence Kinu in any true poignant manner its all fluff. I like the idea of Kinu i just dislike Tobs execution.....I really like Rindo but i'm not gonna lie, I want someone else to write her family dynamic. I just KNOW he's gonna pull some my kid hates me for his mom being a concubine or some trash frickin annoyance
For me this criticism applies to the most of the game. I understand that this is a relatively small game, and expecting every choice under the rainbow is kind of unrealistic. But, I really liked the Kitsune quest-line in concept. And some of the push back the PC gets I found was interesting. Really makes me believe that this another culture that you're entering. I liked the idea that some one was welling to challenge you and wasn't going to simply bend over backwards to please you and if you could some how earn their respect (which like a lot of people have already pointed out should have been earned when you became the literal champion of their god) It would been cool if you could simply accept what Kiyoko and the other Kitsune's are telling you, or if you could change the culture some how. Initially I got the feeling they were trying to establish a colony and eventually they were going to be forced to interact with Hawthorne or the Winter city at some point. Which since you are married to their leader and champion for their god, it would have been cool if you are given the choice to act as an ambassador for the Kitsunes and formed alliances with the other cultures for them. The choice you made in these hypothetical quest could have lead to changes in the kitsune culture. Maybe some of the kitsune start appearing in other villages like Kohaku already does in the Minotaur village. You could have whole new quest where Kitsunes are trying to adjust to other cultures. Maybe some of the minor kitsune start falling in love are start conflicts with the other villages. I also would have made Kinu a temporary companion for these missions. It would have been a good way for your character to reconnect with her. It could have also put you in a situation where you need to avoid losing, as since everything in this game is trying to fuck something, losing could lead to terrible things happening to Kinu, or she might lose even more respect for you if she sees you getting easily defeated or bent over by some monster. These missions could lead to her becoming more bratty, more rebellious, or something else entirely. The lack of player choice, in a game where player choice is the main driving point, you need to give the play some meaningful interactions. Mending your relationship with your daughter or even interacting with your other kids could have been fun. That is what lost in this storyline. I see this problem in other quest-lines as well. I'm hoping that this will get better with time, but based on how the writers respond to criticism, I feel like they are just going to double down on their choices, and potentially kill an interesting concept.
 
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