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Are you talking about:

Fukushuu wo Koinegau Saikyou Yuusha wa, Yami no Chikara de Senmetsu Musou Suru

The Strongest Hero Who Longs for Revenge Will Peerlessly Annihilate with the Power of Darkness

With the main character being Raoul? That doesn't have a ending yet because it's ongoing? If it's not then link me to whatever you are talking about. Seems like something I can waste my time with.
It's that one, yes.

Been a while since I've been 'ere, 2k pages? I expected less since le mods purge a lot or have they stopped doing those?
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Side note:
I don't know if I should expect any goodness but, have they by some miracle improved upon this game or is it still the same slop streak of updates?
 
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It's that one, yes.

Been a while since I've been 'ere, 2k pages? I expected less since le mods purge a lot or have they stopped doing those?
:KEK: :KEK: :KEK: :KEK:

Side note:
I don't know if I should expect any goodness but, have they by some miracle improved upon this game or is it still the same slop streak of updates?
Well they've released a couple of characters that are at least nice to look at but in terms of writing and story building it's still dog shit, not sure how long you've been gone from this thread and the game but they've just now finally progressed the minotaur city quest a tiny bit
 

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It's that one, yes.

Been a while since I've been 'ere, 2k pages? I expected less since le mods purge a lot or have they stopped doing those?
:KEK: :KEK: :KEK: :KEK:

Side note:
I don't know if I should expect any goodness but, have they by some miracle improved upon this game or is it still the same slop streak of updates?
Hmm wouldn't really know. I'm just fap to some of the content that does it for me and ignore the rest. Been lurking and reading old post to learn more about how shitty things are or were.
 

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It being a mess is sort of a charm point for me, it feels like a legit town with all kinds of people now. The only ones that probably straight up don't fit the tone are Behemoth and the gambling demons. Behemoth since he's just mindless and could easily hurt someone (it's the reason the centaurs want to get rid of him if you spare him). The gambling demons since they don't have an obsession that can be worked around like Farrah. They just want fun. Fun that can easily be turned on innocent people.

In retrospect, Farrah probably should be gotten rid of now that we got the wandering caravan, too.
I know this is a old post and you might know by name. But they fit fine, you are the baron and if you interact with them enough you become the dominant person in the relationship. They are basically loyal to you even if one if Tsundere about it. At the end of the day, you are their baron/ruler, and everyone there cedes to your authority. They wouldn't fit otherwise.
 

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Hmm wouldn't really know. I'm just fap to some of the content that does it for me and ignore the rest. Been lurking and reading old post to learn more about how shitty things are or were.
yeahhh you've definitely seen my experience from way back then.
 
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Man, if the argument in question is whether the pretty boy bunny cultist or the femboy tsundere puppy witch is the better character, I'm all in on the pupper.

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I lean more towards subbing, but hands down, if I'm getting dicked, it's going to be by the cuddly pouting pupper, not the pretty boy bunny. Berwyn's objectively the more interesting and charming character between the two. I think the only reason anyone would choose Quint over Berwyn would be an attraction to pretty boys, and that's totally valid, I don't want to dismiss that- but like.. He doesn't have as much content, interactivity, or scenes meant to charm players. A lot of his conversations with you are pretty dry reads. I can only assume that his 'seductive nature' relies heavily on his face.
I didn't have a boy band phase growing up, so I just don't feel any attraction to him. He feels flavorless.

Honestly, this whole comparison between him and Berwyn is so weird to me, it doesn't even feel like a contest, they're aiming for entirely different demographics, it's just that one is a larger demographic than the other is all. I could easily substitute Cait's entire presence in the story with Berwyn from the start and have a more fun experience with the game as a result- but Quint may as well be a dead fish for all the emotion he evokes in me. I'm assuming I'm just not the intended audience for Quint, just as I'm not the intended audience for hardcore yaoi VNs or any anime all about guys in tight swimsuits.
Cute is justice as far as I'm concerned.
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Ditto honestly, while I'm not prevy to take dick I definitely like Berwyn. I like the fact that he prefers women but u can romance him into being into u as a guy. His comments plays very differently if ur just a gf than if u r his bf tht dicks him. Still hate what B did to him, such a fuck up.

Quinn is garbage in comparison and I'm not referring to fetish. Their characterization and how they interact with the pc is night and day. Berwyn is first introd as a bratty foe tht comes to u for aid then warms to you after helping him out. Quinn comes comes for aid then tries to guilt trip u for further aid while wearing enemy colors and to top it off you have to pay for all his shit then white knight for him when the villagers rightly question his right to be there, worse is you barely get to know the guy and as a character he provides nothing even tho he should have links to the plot or plot lore because he was in the cult.

To answer M0nte, we don't like him because he's annoying, useless (for both plot and character interaction), and has "my special OC" energy.
 

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The kitsune stuff just can't be salvaged. They sucker you in with the orb, but then everything after that is just nonstop abuse from a writer that hates you and has fallen out of touch with the rest of humanity.

It's a trap that sucks you in, and drains away sanity points. Treat it like an incredibly toxic mineshaft, go in if you must, then hurriedly dig out whatever ideas or inspirations might suit your fancy, just get out of there before you contract the black lung or something equally terrible, (like awful tastes or a loss of faith in humanity.) Remember how good kitsunes CAN be, and indulge in the depictions of them done right- reject the ruination of kitsune! Just write your own happy life with your kitsune wife. You can bang as many of your daughters as you want in daydreams and personal stories, too.
Only consume your daily intake of kitsune propaganda from reputable sources of creativity.
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U know, I was never really against the Kitsune as how Tobs did it, tho it did turn me off from Kitsune for a long time but its the fact that the PC doesn't have the option to clap back or tell them to fuck off. You can't tell ur abuse Fox wife that she fucked up raising our children, you can't tell the fox elder to stop inserting herself into ur family, you can't tell Kinu that she's a fucking moron for trying to start a suicidal fight or that things can be different now that they are here. My beef with Tobs and a Majority the writers is tht the player voice must be silenced.
 

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Even removing Nakano from the game, even rewriting every interaction with Kinu, even changing fundamentals about the orb and the time skips that take place in there so you aren't quite so blatantly absent in Kinu's life, even going so far as to rewrite all the kitsune lore so they aren't so outright hostile to anything and everything (especially the player),
you'd just be salvaging spite. Going to great lengths to make someone else's hate-filled fantasy into something you could tolerate, maybe even enjoy a bit.

I'd rather just scrap the whole thing and start fresh, personally. I don't need to use that guy's venom-laced narrative or salt-infused characters, I can just come up with my own kitsune. It wouldn't take any effort to put in as much thought as the original writer did. It'd be more work- (and psychic damage)- to read through and edit every single bit of what's already there into something even remotely pleasant, and even then, I wouldn't be able to forget everything that came before the edits. Short of a sudden bout of dementia, I'm always going to remember Kinu for what she is now. Any edits would just be to spare future generations from that landmine.

I'd rather leave them something that's built on fun and smiles from the get go, though. "My gift to the children of tomorrow is a world where there are no more Kinu's, or Nakano's. Where you can appreciate a fluffy tail without being called a slur, or mocked for not being born with your soul up some self-proclaimed god's ass! From now on, we will have more endearing and friendly kitsune!" (And then the crowd cheers.)
Seriously though, nothing about the kitsunes presently in the game are unique or revolutionary enough to want to preserve any of it. The biggest deal in that content is Kinu, having a daughter that you can watch grow up- but that happens in such a flash that it's more the thought than the actual experience at that point- and again, nothing new, Helspawn and all from CoC1.

Just come up with your own kitsune bride, your own daughter(s)/(sons?), keep the orb if you want to have your own little isolated slice of paradise, but what's there right now isn't worth the frustration.
Yeah but there's a lot of good content there, I remember someone saying tht the Kitsune are like badly implemented dlc and I totally agree. Shit, going by our little talk about rewriting/modding I'd just cut the Kitsune out tbh.
 

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Howdy. Since the last version that i played was 0.7.2. I was planning to replay the new version with the charmer class. So i wanted to ask; what are the best items and abilities to take? Thanks in advance
There's a holy grenade, cheat it to have like a bunch of them and just blow through everything. Not always guaranteed to solve all problems but solves a chunk.

I'd rather leave them something that's built on fun and smiles from the get go, though. "My gift to the children of tomorrow is a world where there are no more Kinu's, or Nakano's. Where you can appreciate a fluffy tail without being called a slur, or mocked for not being born with your soul up some self-proclaimed god's ass! From now on, we will have more endearing and friendly kitsune!" (And then the crowd cheers.)
Seriously though, nothing about the kitsunes presently in the game are unique or revolutionary enough to want to preserve any of it. The biggest deal in that content is Kinu, having a daughter that you can watch grow up- but that happens in such a flash that it's more the thought than the actual experience at that point- and again, nothing new, Helspawn and all from CoC1.
Do gotta wonder if it won't be too much work. Besides, the art they got for the kitsunes is pretty solid, they're just saddled with being a part of Tobslop.

With the assumption of time and ability, I'd rewrite it as such...

The fat tanooki lady tells the PC she has a job offer for their party, remove the kitsune tree and get handsome pay. On the way there, your party is intercepted by the ninja kitsune who states that "they already know of your plot" and gets in your way. She'll flee after losing, saying that "there must be a better way".

Eventually, you reach the tree and this is the fun part, you get to actually kill them. Remember that they're an invasive species and, like Daji, could spell a new downfall for the region. However, every time you get the option of killing them, you have the reminder that they are useful in certain ways and that it'd be a waste to kill them.

Finally, you fight their den mother and once you beat them, you get the proper point of deviation: Komari says she's aware that you have a fort technically under the oversight of a lackluster Lord (you know who, the one that blew up the kids a while ago) and begs you to let them join you while promising to turn a new leaf.

The catch is that some of the kitsunes can bring certain skills and advantages to the Wayfort like Kohaku bringing her shop with the power-up that since she's not far from metal, her store is always offering the best stuff as a token of appreciation; Rindo makes a spiffy new garden where you can rest, heal and lose corruption; the kitsune that builds robots can then build some for you to bring along to fights like a familiar and so on and so forth.

At the wayfort, they would in turn get a second floor and thus generate more money but the real bonus would be that their attitude towards foreigners would improve from mere interactions. I'd personally have an arc for Nakano where he'd try to challenge those willing to fight (Aileh, Zhara and her flock, the bailiff) and lose repeatedly, humbling him down to understand the situation they're now at.

It's not stuff that I'd deem necessary but it would be a good way to use the toys they left us so to speak.

Oh, right, forgot about Kinu. Here's how it'd be instead then.

Assuming you kept Komari and the miko twins alive, the oldie one will listen to the PC mention Kiyoko and explain her actual status and that they could get them out of the orb with the help of their deity. At that point, if you have Viviane, she'll interject and state that she's interested in the piece and wonder if she can investigate it.

After plenty of tinkering, she figures out how to undo it and asks if you will let her try it out. She doesn't make guarantees it'll work but if it doesn't, it'll hopefully still be good for the kitsunes to try it out. Of course, she nails it first try and you get Kiyoko free... as well as all her children without the time skip.

Kinu's attack interlude is now a Wayfort Defense event where you can help defend it against the rogues that would originally attack the tree. You can then send them to jail and do whatever you want with them.

Yeah... Look. I get where you're coming from, but for me? Maybe this is my inner saviorfag coming through. Back in my younger days, I'd photoshop/edit horrible >rape and NTR hentai and rule 34 that had chicks I thought were hot and make them wholesome. Yeah, I was pretty autistic.

You see it as salvaging spite. I see it as saving what little gems exist in these parts and giving them a chance to actually shine. The fact that there's nothing that unique about the Kitsunes is a boon in my book. It means I can't fuck them up any worse than they already are.

As others stated, it makes sense for Kitsunes to be somewhat closed off. While I don't think it makes sense for them to be a 1 to 1 expy for Imperial Japan, considering they don't even really act like Imperial Japan as that would be impossible given the setting. I do think they should at least resemble Japan. And part of that is a somewhat casual xenophobia.

Now, that doesn't mean they can't change their opinions on people. Once the Champ shows up and reveals they've got Kiyoko, and Keros vouched for them, they should at least not be outwardly hostile. With things improving more and more the you interact with them.

Constantly reminding you that you will never be one of them, while it makes sense for irl Japan, makes no sense in the context of Savarra, where their literal god has declared you to be a person of interest.
I do feel it'd be better to salvage them than just lock them off, yeah.

He could have simply said no to incest and build a healthy relationship. Why are porn writers so butt-seared that they get offended when people ask them for a type of porn? Just say 'Nah, that's not my thing.' Instead of LITERALLY forcing a scenario where you are a bad dad for...fighting through an entire race of soul-less fox people to free them? And instead of it being a couple of months or weeks, they come out years older? Like it's not even clever or the consequences of our actions, because we never get a real choice in the matter.

Porn games, Video games, for both to succeeded beyond simple fap full or a quick but temporary burst of entertain is player expression and a sense of agency. You can't tell a good story or try some moral approach if the players never had a choice in the first place. Like why the fuck are people trying to insert their own views and morals on a porn game they are being paid to make?

We gotta cut their funds for a while and let them starve for a while. Make them realize not to bite the hand that feeds them. Like it's fine if you have certain topics you don't want to make, but don't try to throw shit at the player for it.
That'll always crack me up. They put more work on crafting a way to get one up on people as opposed to just declining and moving on.
 

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So is Livrea an attempt by Savin to course correct away from Cait, or is he just mad that Brienne used to be popular and wants to make his own version. She shows up a lot lately. Plus turns out to be acceptably important (she herself isn't important, it's just she's related to important people)
I think that is exactly what she is, and knowing how immature they all can be; without a doubt an attempt to get the Brienne crowd.
 

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I know this is a old post and you might know by name. But they fit fine, you are the baron and if you interact with them enough you become the dominant person in the relationship. They are basically loyal to you even if one if Tsundere about it. At the end of the day, you are their baron/ruler, and everyone there cedes to your authority. They wouldn't fit otherwise.
Bro got lost in time. Replying to people from years ago. :ROFLMAO:


So is Livrea an attempt by Savin to course correct away from Cait, or is he just mad that Brienne used to be popular and wants to make his own version. She shows up a lot lately. Plus turns out to be acceptably important (she herself isn't important, it's just she's related to important people)
Definitely the latter. As her original first encounter has her hanging out near the brothel, being good friends with local whores. And if you give her a tip she goes inside to have a gangbang.
She initially was supposed to be a pink slut cow, akin to pink slut cat Cait.
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i still appreciate the hypocrisy of demons coming to corrupt people but the behavior of the corrupt being no different from what the people are already doing. there's even a sex cult that apparently raises people from childhood to be sex priests, but no mention is given to them being bad in any way. cait, your party member btw, will fuck anything that moves even if it's a demon and only determine she should be disgusted after being railed by said demon.

very good story, great writing 10/10
 

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Wow the levels of hypocrisy is real asf
My I hope not that crazy theory is that a lot of people are ashamed of what they liked and suppress it due to social pressure (nothing bad with this because that's a private issue and should be discussed as such), but for some of them, it becomes too much, they are unable to let go

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Anyway I think he got annoyed and let spite rule his later work and that is a personal failure, because he isn't terrible (and editing all those extra words was Savin's work anyway) so I'm sad he let his personal issues blend into his work in the dumbest way possible

Yeah, he just wants to get his dick wet and that's his personality. Honestly, I can see us getting something like that out of that with Octavia. I just feel like she would be someone the champ could hang out with, just the vibes.
Now this is interesting because unless you had the noble origin, you're just someone bumbling your way into royal chambers and winning everyone through sheer charisma, and it worked quite well because the wasp kingdom came from a horny storm of venom, Evelyn is a runaway princess and Etheryn for the most part looks up to you, so your interactions with royals are muted through the power of the plot, but then Octavia could actually do that. She's a sex buddy, wants into the champion's pants but also, she sees in you a top dog, harem owner, raw dragon energy (that should be mine damn it!) and she's into the same wavelength, and sure the champion is her little pet, but she doesn't bring that up nor does she mess with your harem

Brint does have bro energy but he will overshadow you not out of malice, but for who he is and how he was written. Can't match Anno's fuck buddy power which mix having a friend and having a lover with sexual escapades that are never uncomfortable

Anno pimping her sisters and wife to Steele?, amazing

Brint taking you home and porking his family with you as a little helper?, lame
 

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i still appreciate the hypocrisy of demons coming to corrupt people but the behavior of the corrupt being no different from what the people are already doing. there's even a sex cult that apparently raises people from childhood to be sex priests, but no mention is given to them being bad in any way. cait, your party member btw, will fuck anything that moves even if it's a demon and only determine she should be disgusted after being railed by said demon.

very good story, great writing 10/10
Tht would be cool if they did actually believe a hundred percent of what they right. They don't think thts wrong.
 

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My I hope not that crazy theory is that a lot of people are ashamed of what they liked and suppress it due to social pressure (nothing bad with this because that's a private issue and should be discussed as such), but for some of them, it becomes too much, they are unable to let go

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Anyway I think he got annoyed and let spite rule his later work and that is a personal failure, because he isn't terrible (and editing all those extra words was Savin's work anyway) so I'm sad he let his personal issues blend into his work in the dumbest way possible
Crazy how that fits, dude is absolutely weird. Like, why would u go tht length to spite some stranger on the internet and loss 90% favor from ur audience. Dude must have been jacking off to his reflection because ain't no sane man gonna be tht butt hurt over an opinion.

Brint does have bro energy but he will overshadow you not out of malice, but for who he is and how he was written. Can't match Anno's fuck buddy power which mix having a friend and having a lover with sexual escapades that are never uncomfortable
Cucks are gonna be cucks. Hate tht they essentially made him tht way off rip because it doesn't seem tht way until u start to notice the bullshit. Like the instance u come up on Cait getting dug out by Brint in the forest when u talk to the Dryad and they've not even had a conversation but u have to GET TO KNOW CAIT TO EVEN START FUCKING HER.

Brint taking you home and porking his family with you as a little helper?, lame
Always took tht as a Brienne thing tht just got poorly implemented on Brint's side of things. I'm mean champ is a whore and the fact that Brint knows you're a whore and is like "I'm glad it was u," is lame asf. One thing about guys that get around is tht they are hyper-vigilant when it comes to men around the important women in their lives, some may not care but a lot do because they know tht there are guys that are just here to fuck and break hearts.
 
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