VN Ren'Py Cosy Cafe [v0.10] [Cosy Creator]

[Horny Toad]

Wow, a lot of pages in the last few days, lot to digest. But I still have some thoughts so hope I'm not repeating anything discussed previously.

First, the character bios page. I kind of wish that the LIs that are current, meaning pretty much Lucy, Victoria, Akatsuki and Sarah, (maybe Catherine, Alison, Hannah and Misaki) would be the only ones featured on that page and the rest of the characters be in the side characters bios. This would mean we wouldn't know that Rachel is a future LI, or that Akari is a future LI, and that once they became a LI, they would switch over to that page.

This is also shows that Annabelle will not be a LI, so it won't be a surprise when it's discovered in the story that she's not. So now super groupie Sam is not one, but we could have always held out hope that she would become one (the MC loves his older women). Just my thoughts on it.

Second, couldn't the MC bring up that Gloria shouldn't be recognized as the head of the Russell family? That the Founding Family rules are sexist and that only males are the ones that lead the respective families And what's with her husband, I assume wasn't a Russell in the first place (keep it in the family?), so he changed his name to Russell but why is he allowed to have multiple wives? He's not the head, he's probably just Gloria's bitch.

Finally, why should the MC trust any of the other families? His grandfather had a wife from each family divorce him, so it wasn't Gloria alone who destroyed the grandfather, it was all the families in a planned effort. Mr. Gilbert must have had an aunt or cousin that was married to Mr. Fletcher, so wouldn't he question what happened? I assume the rest of the non founding family wives were gold diggers, so no wealth, no more point in staying. I'm trying to remember, was there the one wife, the MC's grandmother, still in the picture? I replayed the whole VN recently and still can't recall if mentioned at all. Anyway, the Founding Families are a bunch of psychos, no honour really, showing when they guy appealed to get his money back from the Russell's and the Russell's expected to get away with it. Would Mr. Hamilton vote for the Russell's favour if he thought it would benefit him and not actually think of fairness and justice?

Sorry, just rambling. This VN is very enjoyable and makes you think after playing, and enjoyable to play again and again. Looking forward to the next update, the sooner the better (no pressure).

 

[DarkBlade12345]

Wow, a lot of pages in the last few days, lot to digest. But I still have some thoughts so hope I'm not repeating anything discussed previously.

First, the character bios page. I kind of wish that the LIs that are current, meaning pretty much Lucy, Victoria, Akatsuki and Sarah, (maybe Catherine, Alison, Hannah and Misaki) would be the only ones featured on that page and the rest of the characters be in the side characters bios. This would mean we wouldn't know that Rachel is a future LI, or that Akari is a future LI, and that once they became a LI, they would switch over to that page.

This is also shows that Annabelle will not be a LI, so it won't be a surprise when it's discovered in the story that she's not. So now super groupie Sam is not one, but we could have always held out hope that she would become one (the MC loves his older women). Just my thoughts on it.

Second, couldn't the MC bring up that Gloria shouldn't be recognized as the head of the Russell family? That the Founding Family rules are sexist and that only males are the ones that lead the respective families And what's with her husband, I assume wasn't a Russell in the first place (keep it in the family?), so he changed his name to Russell but why is he allowed to have multiple wives? He's not the head, he's probably just Gloria's bitch.

Finally, why should the MC trust any of the other families? His grandfather had a wife from each family divorce him, so it wasn't Gloria alone who destroyed the grandfather, it was all the families in a planned effort. Mr. Gilbert must have had an aunt or cousin that was married to Mr. Fletcher, so wouldn't he question what happened? I assume the rest of the non founding family wives were gold diggers, so no wealth, no more point in staying. I'm trying to remember, was there the one wife, the MC's grandmother, still in the picture? I replayed the whole VN recently and still can't recall if mentioned at all. Anyway, the Founding Families are a bunch of psychos, no honour really, showing when they guy appealed to get his money back from the Russell's and the Russell's expected to get away with it. Would Mr. Hamilton vote for the Russell's favour if he thought it would benefit him and not actually think of fairness and justice?

Sorry, just rambling. This VN is very enjoyable and makes you think after playing, and enjoyable to play again and again. Looking forward to the next update, the sooner the better (no pressure).

IIRC, Cosy has said that there's a chance for a girl to be moved from side to main, but I think you actually bring up a good point about the Character Bios. Since there's a pretty big difference between where some of the gilrs, maybe their could be a section specifically for current girlfriends on the Main Love Interests page. It doesn't really change anything, bur I think it would be neat to see more and more girls slowly being added to the GF section.

The MC at this point isn't really in a position to be making any sort of demands. Also, I could be misremembering but I don't think there's an actual rule preventing women from being the head. Even if the MC was able to bring it up and somehow lead it to a vote, even if she was voted out, she would most likely continue to lead from the shadows. We already know that she removed people to get into the position she's in now, so I doubt she would just lie down and accept it.

We don't know what happened to his grandfather exactly. Gloria could have started or spread horrible rumors about him or planted evidence of some sort of wrong doing that made his wives leave him. Also the MC at this point doesn't really trust any of the founding families anyway. He has his opinion on the heads. He knows that Gloria and Mr. Hamilton are awful. He knows that Catherine's dad seems like a decent guy, but he doesn't have the actual ability to lead and is pretty much owned by Hamilton. The only one that he kinda respects is Mr. Gilbert, but he's not even working with him currently. At the end of the day, he knows that they each have their own motives. The only people that the MC trusts are his girls.

 

[Ultimecea]

but these are not medieval times anymore.
she is said to have destroyed her brother, not killed.
she is also said to have destroyed MC's grandfather - same word used - and he was still alive after she was finished with him.

well, lets focus on MC grandfather then
all his wifes from founding family left him from a plot causes by Gloria
but why there's no mentioned of MC's parents and why MC was raised by his grandfather in first place

plus being destroyed can be both physically and mentally
what if Flecther's bloodline was being destroyed instead and MC grandfather left just preserve his last descendant aka MC?

First, the character bios page. I kind of wish that the LIs that are current, meaning pretty much Lucy, Victoria, Akatsuki and Sarah, (maybe Catherine, Alison, Hannah and Misaki) would be the only ones featured on that page and the rest of the characters be in the side characters bios. This would mean we wouldn't know that Rachel is a future LI, or that Akari is a future LI, and that once they became a LI, they would switch over to that page.

This is also shows that Annabelle will not be a LI, so it won't be a surprise when it's discovered in the story that she's not. So now super groupie Sam is not one, but we could have always held out hope that she would become one (the MC loves his older women). Just my thoughts on it.

The thing is it was revealed early in the development that its not a secret anymore
although hopes for secondary LI is possible

Second, couldn't the MC bring up that Gloria shouldn't be recognized as the head of the Russell family? That the Founding Family rules are sexist and that only males are the ones that lead the respective families And what's with her husband, I assume wasn't a Russell in the first place (keep it in the family?), so he changed his name to Russell but why is he allowed to have multiple wives? He's not the head, he's probably just Gloria's bitch.

Finally, why should the MC trust any of the other families? His grandfather had a wife from each family divorce him, so it wasn't Gloria alone who destroyed the grandfather, it was all the families in a planned effort. Mr. Gilbert must have had an aunt or cousin that was married to Mr. Fletcher, so wouldn't he question what happened? I assume the rest of the non founding family wives were gold diggers, so no wealth, no more point in staying. I'm trying to remember, was there the one wife, the MC's grandmother, still in the picture? I replayed the whole VN recently and still can't recall if mentioned at all. Anyway, the Founding Families are a bunch of psychos, no honour really, showing when they guy appealed to get his money back from the Russell's and the Russell's expected to get away with it. Would Mr. Hamilton vote for the Russell's favour if he thought it would benefit him and not actually think of fairness and justice?

it wouldnt be effective to provoke Gloria like that since Gloria already been the Head of Russell for at least 17 years now
effectively the same age of MC the least
And MC only trust his girls and you can see when Elizabeth was shown to the door when that happens

IIRC, Cosy has said that there's a chance for a girl to be moved from side to main, but I think you actually bring up a good point about the Character Bios. Since there's a pretty big difference between where some of the gilrs, maybe their could be a section specifically for current girlfriends on the Main Love Interests page. It doesn't really change anything, bur I think it would be neat to see more and more girls slowly being added to the GF section.

i do like the possible reclassification of the Bios
but that would take a step back in game development
and so far we didnt heard anything about Cosy working on the game with a team or by himself
(yes, i just assumed his gender although logically its gender neutral)

The MC at this point isn't really in a position to be making any sort of demands. Also, I could be misremembering but I don't think there's an actual rule preventing women from being the head. Even if the MC was able to bring it up and somehow lead it to a vote, even if she was voted out, she would most likely continue to lead from the shadows. We already know that she removed people to get into the position she's in now, so I doubt she would just lie down and accept it.

We don't know what happened to his grandfather exactly. Gloria could have started or spread horrible rumors about him or planted evidence of some sort of wrong doing that made his wives leave him. Also the MC at this point doesn't really trust any of the founding families anyway. He has his opinion on the heads. He knows that Gloria and Mr. Hamilton are awful. He knows that Catherine's dad seems like a decent guy, but he doesn't have the actual ability to lead and is pretty much owned by Hamilton. The only one that he kinda respects is Mr. Gilbert, but he's not even working with him currently. At the end of the day, he knows that they each have their own motives. The only people that the MC trusts are his girls.

one thing for sure, MC grandfather is a Chef and he actually cooks for the Founding Family gatherings
second, Gloria most likely was the succeeding head of Russell at that time
so she could've cooperate with Hamilton and the previous head of Bennett into splitting Fletcher's wealth
thats why Gilbert didnt know about the incident truth

 

[nbkdelta1]

so do i need a walkthrough mod for this i cant remember restrted since been awhile

 

[Audi4Rings]

You almost definitely saved too late. When you get the finishing screen, roll back a few and make sure to save on a script line (rather than a scene with no text). That's never failed me on any game where the dev didn't significantly invalidate all or most saves. (If you don't have a previous save, check the Autosaves page.)

damn that worked TYSM

 

[Ultimecea]

so do i need a walkthrough mod for this i cant remember restrted since been awhile

nope, its a kinetic novel

 

[Draugo]

Just to stir up the tattoo pot: I really hope that at least some of the more submissive slave type girls will get a tattoo slave brand and lockable steel collars or lockable piercings.

 

[Skep-tiker]

Just to stir up the tattoo pot: I really hope that at least some of the more submissive slave type girls will get a tattoo slave brand and lockable steel collars or lockable piercings.

Yeah thats kinda hot. Hopefully cosy doesnt give a fuck about that normie whining. If he wiuld give in then next they will then ask for femdom or NTR....

 

[GamerDaddy]

Agreed, it would be nice to see some scenes where the MC returns the favour, cunnilingus scenes can be hot when done right. It also provides an avenue into some character moments, like how would Sarah react if the MC offered to go down on her? or Victoria?

On a side note, why does Allison have pictures of food hanging up in her apartment?
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the thought that she got those pictures specially printed and then framed is really funny to me.

maybe the MC's garndfather taught her to make those dishes?

 

[HiP1]

There is also the possibility that she uses the favor to get a job at the cafe, for whatever reason she could come up with

that's not a bad idea at all. if she wants to spy on MC and catch him red handed in the act or sabotage him and his business. or understand why girls are accepting him.

Finally, why should the MC trust any of the other families? His grandfather had a wife from each family divorce him, so it wasn't Gloria alone who destroyed the grandfather, it was all the families in a planned effort. Mr. Gilbert must have had an aunt or cousin that was married to Mr. Fletcher, so wouldn't he question what happened? I assume the rest of the non founding family wives were gold diggers, so no wealth, no more point in staying. I'm trying to remember, was there the one wife, the MC's grandmother, still in the picture? I replayed the whole VN recently and still can't recall if mentioned at all.

from what was said, I understood it as Gloria having a scheme to manipulate the wives into leaving MC's grandfather and return to their family. it was very secret as even Gilbert didn't know the truth when the wife from the Gilbert family divorced, they must have come up with some kind of excuse to avoid Mr Gilbert's questions. if the marriages were just political from the start, their loyalty was always with their own family anyway, it was not that hard to break the whole harem apart.
There is no detail about MC's grandmother, but from that story, we can speculate that the grandfather met her after he was broken, and she fixed him. that's why MC got the upbringing he had.

First, the character bios page. I kind of wish that the LIs that are current, meaning pretty much Lucy, Victoria, Akatsuki and Sarah, (maybe Catherine, Alison, Hannah and Misaki) would be the only ones featured on that page and the rest of the characters be in the side characters bios. This would mean we wouldn't know that Rachel is a future LI, or that Akari is a future LI, and that once they became a LI, they would switch over to that page.

it removed a lot of the suspense of the story, for sure, but many AVN fans prefer to know before hand the official list of LIs. Though the list can change during development anyway. We already know that MC's childhood friend will come back, and there was a debate over Annabelle or her becoming an LI, and she won so the list is not set in stone in this game.

The MC at this point isn't really in a position to be making any sort of demands.

he is from a founding family, so even without being a head, he can literally put anything to a vote. additionally, he is the head of his family, he seats at the council and he has to power to vote... trading votes is the basic of basics in that kind of political environment. he IS in a position to make demands and more, especially since he is the tiebreaker, unpredictable because unknown value. that's why they all try to buy, influence or remove him.

well, lets focus on MC grandfather then
all his wifes from founding family left him from a plot causes by Gloria
but why there's no mentioned of MC's parents and why MC was raised by his grandfather in first place

plus being destroyed can be both physically and mentally
what if Flecther's bloodline was being destroyed instead and MC grandfather left just preserve his last descendant aka MC?

really ? dude, you forgot his whole story...
there IS mention of his parents... it's literally how he can quickly bond/empathize with Lucy and Victoria... his dad died before MC could remember him, and his mother was a shit parent that went to jail when he was 13, that's why he ended up with his grandfather in the first place. and for the record, the grandfather was MC's dad's dad.
it's easy to guess that, just like Victoria's father, there is a huge chance that MC's mother will show up in the story demanding things from MC.
if you forget important stuff like that, it undermines everything else you say.

yes, being destroyed can mean anything. but we already know it doesn't mean killed. first, because MC's grandfather wasn't killed. and second, because if it is widely known that she killed her brother, she would be in jail. at least, Gilbert would see to it.

 

[Skep-tiker]

and second, because if it is widely known that she killed her brother, she would be in jail. at least, Gilbert would see to it.

And thats her opening. MC needs to proof this to get rid of her. I guess thats a probable scenario for her endgame.

 

[HiP1]

And thats her opening. MC needs to proof this to get rid of her. I guess thats a probable scenario for her endgame.

didn't you mean having her locked up in MC's sex dungeon ?

 

[Skep-tiker]

didn't you mean having her locked up in MC's sex dungeon ?

So THAT's what the girls bought for the storage room....

Why not both? Just make the council convict her to that.

 

[NoOnecares007]

Quick question .. just started the game and seems like the headmistress and girl Hannah are sisters. Because the game is on Patreon , has the dev talked about them having scenes together or will that be avoided.

 

[Ultimecea]

really ? dude, you forgot his whole story...
there IS mention of his parents... it's literally how he can quickly bond/empathize with Lucy and Victoria... his dad died before MC could remember him, and his mother was a shit parent that went to jail when he was 13, that's why he ended up with his grandfather in the first place. and for the record, the grandfather was MC's dad's dad.
it's easy to guess that, just like Victoria's father, there is a huge chance that MC's mother will show up in the story demanding things from MC.
if you forget important stuff like that, it undermines everything else you say.

yes, being destroyed can mean anything. but we already know it doesn't mean killed. first, because MC's grandfather wasn't killed. and second, because if it is widely known that she killed her brother, she would be in jail. at least, Gilbert would see to it.

right, it was a brief moment
thats why i dont remembered much when its a year old story
plus, im putting off from reading from start for now

back to Gloria, imagine she's the Russell bride for MC grandfather
lol

 

[capt_obviously]

Quick question .. just started the game and seems like the headmistress and girl Hannah are sisters. Because the game is on Patreon , has the dev talked about them having scenes together or will that be avoided.

Cosy has said there won't be any h-scenes between direct relatives.

 

[Cherubin25]

Cosy has said there won't be any h-scenes between direct relatives.

+ there is nothing in the Dev Notes, planned Tags or anywhere that Incest will be a thing. And IMO it would also not really fit, at least from the current character development and I think it would be quite a stretch to make it believable incest and not just fanservice.

 

[ModiThorrson]

+ there is nothing in the Dev Notes, planned Tags or anywhere that Incest will be a thing. And IMO it would also not really fit, at least from the current character development and I think it would be quite a stretch to make it believable incest and not just fanservice.

I'm thinking that will be difficult if there is to be any lesbian content, as the families are all so interconnected. The MC likely has distant relatives in town that he doesn't know about.

 

[NoOnecares007]

+ there is nothing in the Dev Notes, planned Tags or anywhere that Incest will be a thing. And IMO it would also not really fit, at least from the current character development and I think it would be quite a stretch to make it believable incest and not just fanservice.

i asked because the description of the game suggests all the main girls are in the Harem , i just started but the two i talked about will be in an Harem then most likley .. i just wanted to know that would they just be oblivious and blind to each other ( like some games) or have certain level of acknowledgment. Will continue playing and find out.

 

[Cherubin25]

I'm thinking that will be difficult if there is to be any lesbian content, as the families are all so interconnected. The MC likely has distant relatives in town that he doesn't know about.

Yeah ok, this could be the case. It would not be surprising if the families would have partners from other families and their children once again are also married to members from other families.
But I dont think that it will ever matter in this game.

i asked because the description of the game suggests all the main girls are in the Harem , i just started but the two i talked about will be in an Harem then most likley .. i just wanted to know that would they just be oblivious and blind to each other ( like some games) or have certain level of acknowledgment. Will continue playing and find out.

I will not spoiler anything, but the girls will not be oblivious when it comes to the Harem or who is involved. But, there will be no incest, so there wont be any threesomes with family members.