TheKryptonian

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Dude, i wasn't talking to you. I was referring to the other guy, who brought up the point of NTR haters and fans going in eachother game thread's etc and hating. Where he think's it's the NTR fans who do it more and i'm saying it's untrue and it's the otherway around. I was arguing him, not you.

But i'll answer you cause i actually understand your frustration in all this. Same thing has happened with me with a few games that was promised NTR(Netorare) yet no update of it whatsoever. Was pledged about 3 months until i gave up so i understand why you would get mad about it. This is the dev's fault for not explaining what his plan is and how he is going to execute it. This is an issue, and a real reason for concern specialy if you're a patreon of his.

See thing is, i've never meet an NTR hater that doesn't talk shit either, the only thing i've come close to, is talking to someone that despises NTR who later on turned out to actually be understanding of my point of view regarding NTR. There is different people everywhere, some will just want to defend NTR blindly, and ask for it no matter what the dev's specifically said at the start of his/hers game. I'm not denying that it doesn't happen...of course it does. But then there are a few of us, who will have a reasonable debate of the topic. Obviously not here since it's the game thread and should be about the game. But you get my point. Like wise there are NTR hater's, who hate blindly as well. Mad world we live in. (y)

Subject to bad writing perhaps?...i mean look at it this way. Western NTR game's usually have shit writing, where they think NTR is just about watching a loved one get fucked and get off to it and that's it. That's not the case but since that's how writers of western NTR do it, realism goes out of the picture for NTR. You need someone that understand's NTR to know how to write it. Now the alpha route for example, the reason realism matter's for non-NTR content is cause of the love factor. You have an easier time writing that since you understand it more. Take movies like Titanic or The Notebook, basically if you've watched any love/romance movies you get the idea of how to write stuff like that. Which is why i think the dev will take his time with it, maybe to perfect it for you alpha fans or maybe he just simply has to much on his plate with the entire story combined with the two routes. Writing NTR seem's to be easy for the point's i've made before about NTR only being a guy that watches. That it doesn't matter how it all unfold's. I think the dev could make sexual content easy, i mean it's a few render's etc. But he's taking the story into account. We'll see what happen's next update.

I agree with you man....no matter what, you just don't wanna get blue balls no matter what game or route your on. I hope the alpha route get's the sex scene's that it deserves, i personally play both routes in every game i just prefer NTR. Think about it though, if the routes where reversed and the non-NTR route got all the sex scenes and NTR got none. Would you consider that to be annoying by NTR fans for complaining that there is no scene's for them? Just wondering. ;)
Not at all. Nor would I blindly defend the dev and lay on excuse after excuse.

But your point about the writing is correct and its my main gripe with any game that has NTR and non-NTR content. I always ALWAYS here the same excuse from the writer/dev why NTR always and I mean ALWAYS has way more content. REALISM... give me a fucking break... fitst off your writing a godamn porn game. Get off your ass and put some effort into both paths equally if you say thats what its gonna be. Make the characters consistent on both, true NTR lovers dont mind a slow burn (corruption) either. Build it up on both sides or just say fuck it and SEX for everybody!

REALISM! Fucking get off it and dont be lazy to either side.
 

yoyomistro

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To say that non-NTR fans are never happy if a game has NTR isn't exactly accurate.
They're unhappy if the NTR is forced (and especially if it's some surprise NTR) and is the dominant element in the game, leaving very little content for the non-NTR path itself.
I'm not too sure about this game ever being intended to be solely and purely a NTR game, think it was intended that it would also have non-NTR path since the beginning, but I could be wrong about that.
The game launched with pretty much only "NTR" content (it's not real NTR but I'll humor the way some of you choose to define the word).
 

Eerie Entity

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The game launched with pretty much only "NTR" content (it's not real NTR but I'll humor the way some of you choose to define the word).
Probably, but what I was saying that the game was planned to have both NTR and non-NTR paths since the beginning, wasn't something that was decided later like "Hmmm, I think I need to add this path to appeal to a wider audience".
 
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yoyomistro

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Probably, but what I was saying that the game was planned to have both NTR and non-NTR paths since the beginning, wasn't something that was decided later like "Hmmm, I think I need to add this path to appeal to a wider audience".
I don't know that much, I don't follow this game super closely, I've only done extractions and all the early ones were very NTR focused.
 

sakuyas_mmaster

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Think about it though, if the routes where reversed and the non-NTR route got all the sex scenes and NTR got none. Would you consider that to be annoying by NTR fans for complaining that there is no scene's for them?
That is a valid point. Let me tell you first I find this NTR stuff disgusting. It doesn't just not turn me on. It actually makes me feel uncomfortable, like gay porn, granny porn or snuff porn. It turns my stomach. So you might understand that I wouldn't be annoyed in the slightest if all the NTR fans were royally cucked by a game dev. It's their fetish anyways.

But I have seen on this forum people argue (for example in the threads for Babysitter or The Tyrant) that the dev is wasting his time by making NTR content. And that I found incredibly selfish. Those games are advertised as having both an NTR and a non-NTR path. I have no idea if their NTR paths are good or not. I will never play this type of content. I only know their non-NTR paths are good. So why be an ass instead of just enjoying the good content you get?

Sadly this cannot be said about this game here. Here the non-NTR path is absolutely pathetic. And I believe that's why there are so many complaints about it.
 
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gestved

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The game launched with pretty much only "NTR" content (it's not real NTR but I'll humor the way some of you choose to define the word).
yeah man, but that's the theme of the game, look at the protagonist, he looks like an idiot, if it was real life he would never get laid with any of the girls in the game, not while he didn't get a haircut at least.

when the game starts, Marcus is already the stud of the island, he's rich, confident and lives to pursue girls, the complete oposite of the protagonist that comes from a much less sexually liberated place, is a virgin and looks like the boy in Meet the Robinsons, the only thing going for him is that he got some wits. He gets far more action than he should with that fucking hair

It's not the same as a game like Battle of the Bulges where the MC is a stud himself and is competing with another to see who is the best, in Culture Shock there is no competition, Marcus doesn't feel threatened at all yet, he just want to get close to MC to get to sister/mom, but we know that he gets defensive when talking about his mother

I had zero problems avoiding NTR until now, just don't let mom and sister get corruption/slut points and get domination points for MC, there was a problem with a version where the dev fucked up with a variable and threw people in the alpha route to a NTR scene, but it was an accident

and of course, I never expected to get mom and sister scenes anytime soon, they are in a similar situation of the MC, they come from a conservative background, sister is a virgin, mom is a normal mom as far as we know, but they are good looking, unlike the MC, so they get a lot of male attention, if you push them to become more sexually liberated, of course they are going to fuck a bunch of guys
 
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I.W.

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Have had zero NTR since replaying harem route. This update adds more to that.
 

Alfius

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OK... for the love of God can all the NTR haters just stop with the whining. It's really starting to grind my gears.

Look, I'm no NTR fan, I'm also playing the non-NTR route and I find the game and non-NTR route quite enjoyable.
Please for the love of God, leave the poor developer and his writers alone.

Please let the developer write the game he wants to write. There is nothing I hate more then a developer pandering to screaming fans. Please let the developer write the game he wants. If this is not the game for you, sure make your feelings known, but at some stage you need to let it go. I see the same posters posting the same thing over and over again.

Maybe the game is not for you and it's time for you to move on. If there is an NTR tag in the game, even if it says there is a NON-NTR route, expect to have strong NTR themes and romantic rivals in the game. It's not so hard to understand.
It just means that if you chose correctly, you can avoid the NTR. That should be part of the challenge to play the game.

If you are not up for that and do not want to see Marcus again, then maybe this is not the game for you.

Sorry, end of rant.

TLDR. I'm not a fan of NTR, I have not even played the NTR route, but I find the non NTR route satisfactory. Quit complaining.
 

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The NTR fanboys in this thread keep making themselves look ridiculous with every new post. Nobody is saying anything against NTR. We're upset that the other paths (which we were promised from the very beginning of the game) are non existent. You can have all the NTR content you want but we also want what we were promised.

It would be a different story if this was a game that set out from the start to only have NTR or not have any NTR at all. But this was supposed to have options.
Dear Mr. Non-NtrContentIsNonExistent,
You get:
Handjob from Sophie
Nudes from Maude
Dream Handjob from Aunt
Blowjob from Aunt
Handjob from Maude
Dream with mom
Grinding Sunny
Grinding Karla
Blowjob in the toilet gloryhole
Christmas Dream
Marcus literally gets the same stuff apart from Sophie who is his sex buddy since start of the game, I'd say it's pretty even.
 

WildBillKatt

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I prefer the non NTR content but I don't get wound up over a little competition. My concern is that there really wasn't much content of any kind in this update, and the updates seem to be getting progressively smaller.
 

FalseOath

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I prefer the non NTR content but I don't get wound up over a little competition. My concern is that there really wasn't much content of any kind in this update, and the updates seem to be getting progressively smaller.
If you've followed this thread before, there was a big setback for the developers. One developer went AWOL/Rogue/joined the circus and took out a huge chunk of the supposed update. It's understandable that the recent update is a little bit smaller due to the fact they're trying smooth out the edges with the new development team. 9.5 is rumored to be NTR & NTR friendly.
(Don't start a shit storm with my post. Just been reading the past comments since the update.)

 

DarkKaiba666

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Listen, I'm trying to find out why there's an incest patch for v.091 bugfix when I can't find a link or download for v0.91 bugfix. And all I'm finding are post after post after post of people whining/bitching/crying/arguing over ntr. More than one moderator has told you that it's really not worth arguing over. In my opinion, you should be ashamed of yourselves for being the few members hijacking this thread just to be autists. Just take the hint and shut up already or take it to conversation.

When regular members are trying to find walkthroughs, saves, links, and information, all they're finding on page after page after page are ntr arguments. No wonder they're asking and can find a damn thing cuz it's all buried under the ntr hysteria.

element1108 After scrolling through 10 pages of bitching, I couldn't see anything other than a post saying a mom dream for both routes, a handjob on one and a voyeur + handjob on the other route. It might be inside the v0.90 release post.
Wicked Garden After scrolling through 10 pages of autism, I went to the patreon and they just released it there.
Thank-you good sir. You saved this thread for me and were helpful. Let's discuss the game :)
 

D Dog

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Just finished with the new update, and I love the new direction \ writing with the game. I can't wait for the next update.
 
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archedio

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SO, anyone realize it yet that the compressed version is always crashed?
culture shock.exe is not responding....
 
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