PaxHadrian17

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Wish we could see some mature arguments instead of "I don't like NTR and that's why" comments and unnecessarily aggressive rants filled with toxic masculinity. Oh well, feel free to play one of the plentily available harem games lads. Life is short, don't worry and be happy and all that. ^.^
In the end, whether you like NTR, don't care, or dislike NTR - it is an individual's choice.

This creator seems to invest more time in the NTR path of his creation than he does in the non-NTR path.

Here, the NTR is aimed at the mother and sister of the MC (as well as some of the other women he encounters) versus just losing a girlfriend to an Alpha, for example.

I think that this type of NTR is more 'offensive' to a lot of guys because their attitude is 'who the fuck do you think you are trying to conquer my mother and sister and destroy my family.'

Is this just a VN - fictional story - sure. But a good story invites us into it as part of the experience and both the Mom and Sister are nicely crafted characters. For some of us, they mean something more than just meat market fodder for other men.

For me, I'm interested in the non-NTR path. I treat this as roleplaying and I simply don't have any desire to play a subservient role to other guys when it comes to the women in my life, especially the Mom and Sister.

I understand that others can and do roleplay this differently - like NTR, play the NTR path; like non-NTR, play the non-NTR path - each person gets to choose their play style for this VN.

The real choice is how we vote with our $. I support a number of Patreons but not a one of them invest a significant portion of their development time on NTR content.

Development time is a precious commodity - and I believe that many people enjoy this VN enough to 'wish' that this precious commodity - development time spent on this VN - was not spent with so much going to NTR content.

Others have every right to wish that less time was spent on non-NTR content for the same reason.

It is up to the creator to make the choices on how much development time is spent on NTR versus non-NTR content and then each of us gets to choose how to respond to it.

I would ask that those who really enjoy this NTR content consider supporting this creator via Patreon (or whatever other method of support he has asked for) because I believe that the creator is telling a good story His way.
 

Cooling Prob

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This has one theme that I really like. A girl who is outside of the generally tight circle of the MCs group of friends starts to talk more to him. They usually have real pricks for boyfriends and they them self's seem to love to play the super bitch at first but then they start to warm up to you.

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sevendustkorn1008

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NTR fans wouldn't like it if the MC could get in a girls nickers as esy as the other guys could because thats takes the fun for them away.
I'm not replying to the rest of your comment. I just wanted to respond to this one sentence. NTR fans wouldn't care. NTR fans typically just want sex to happen, no matter who's having it. They don't care if the "alpha" or love route gets an equal amount of sex as the NTR route, or if it's just as easy for the MC. We're degenerates, so sex is good, no matter who gets it.
 

It Was I DIO

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I'm not replying to the rest of your comment. I just wanted to respond to this one sentence. NTR fans wouldn't care. NTR fans typically just want sex to happen, no matter who's having it. They don't care if the "alpha" or love route gets an equal amount of sex as the NTR route, or if it's just as easy for the MC. We're degenerates, so sex is good, no matter who gets it.
Um.....wrong. NTR fans want to see the corruption of the MC's loved ones. They want to watch them fall to their lust, thats the whole point of netorare, the fall. Not just immediate sex, thats terrible story/plot and NO ONE should want that.
 

dian091

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Um.....wrong. NTR fans want to see the corruption of the MC's loved ones. They want to watch them fall to their lust, thats the whole point of netorare, the fall. Not just immediate sex, thats terrible story/plot and NO ONE should want that.
We want the MC to fail but we do want at least some type of quick pay off, (sex, at least a BJ), pretty quickly.
 
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ManoloRevera

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Great update! I went through the alpha route again and noticed several changes and add ons (Emma and Sunny). Great work indeed. The path feels much better. If more is possible, it will be much welcome. More build up.
 
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DarkKaiba666

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It's been 3.5 months guys and we are getting the update in one week according to the latest post. Isn't that great? Are you HYPE? I sure am. Golly, I just can't believe we are getting the update in a week.

I just..really..can't....believe it..

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I'm sure the party will be awesome but I'm worried it might not be that long with that many scenes for a given path after all this time
 

Drexelhand

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It's been 3.5 months guys and we are getting the update in one week according to the latest post. Isn't that great? Are you HYPE? I sure am. Golly, I just can't believe we are getting the update in a week.

I just..really..can't....believe it..

Rendering 65%
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I'm sure the party will be awesome but I'm worried it might not be that long with that many scenes for a given path after all this time
We were supposed to get the last update at the end of November, it got delayed by like two weeks. I'd expect this one to as well.
 

Shyguy1369

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I just started this yesterday, played late into the night and then finished the current build today. For the record, I am trying to avoid all NTR shit, that's not for me. That aside, I really want to kick the crap out of Marcus. That guy is such an asshole. Sometimes in these VNs, the 'best friend' character is a complete knob and I wish as the player we could have the choice to befriend them or not. This isn't the first VN where I thought the MC was allowing his so called friend do asshole things and not being called out for it. Specifically, what sealed it for me, was when Marcus intentionally got the MC in trouble with the Dean. That is no friend, that's an asshole. I would have punched him in the face and never spoken to him again.

DISCLAIMER: The opinions expressed in this comment are strictly my own and do not necessarily reflect those affiliated with this thread.
 

TamaMountain

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I just started this yesterday, played late into the night and then finished the current build today. For the record, I am trying to avoid all NTR shit, that's not for me. That aside, I really want to kick the crap out of Marcus. That guy is such an asshole. Sometimes in these VNs, the 'best friend' character is a complete knob and I wish as the player we could have the choice to befriend them or not. This isn't the first VN where I thought the MC was allowing his so called friend do asshole things and not being called out for it. Specifically, what sealed it for me, was when Marcus intentionally got the MC in trouble with the Dean. That is no friend, that's an asshole. I would have punched him in the face and never spoken to him again.

DISCLAIMER: The opinions expressed in this comment are strictly my own and do not necessarily reflect those affiliated with this thread.
Yep Marcus is a douche but at this point this is to be expected from NTR games. They are written to always have the upper hand and the MC is written to always tolerate their actions.

Surprisingly enough, for being a NTR focused game, I enjoyed the chad path more. Granted if the MC plays his cards right the game becomes your standard harem game. But what stands out to me is the overarching plotline about the mom's company and the thief. Also the aunt is super hot and the whole mystery behind her line of work is my favourite thing about the game so far. I hope that does not disappoint.

That said, the NTR stuff is actually very hot as well. I mean it's as good as NTR content gets. I appreciate that some girls like Emma actually encourages the MC and helps him to gain more confidence. This really sold the NTR path as a "what if" scenario where the MC did not man up like he did in the chad path. That's a small touch that I liked.

All in all I liked both paths for different reasons but I do fear that the chad path will be abandoned in the future. I have seen it happen to some games with NTR and I hope it doesn't come to that. I will still play it but it will be a shame.
 

Shyguy1369

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Yep Marcus is a douche but at this point this is to be expected from NTR games. They are written to always have the upper hand and the MC is written to always tolerate their actions.

Surprisingly enough, for being a NTR focused game, I enjoyed the chad path more. Granted if the MC plays his cards right the game becomes your standard harem game. But what stands out to me is the overarching plotline about the mom's company and the thief. Also the aunt is super hot and the whole mystery behind her line of work is my favourite thing about the game so far. I hope that does not disappoint.

That said, the NTR stuff is actually very hot as well. I mean it's as good as NTR content gets. I appreciate that some girls like Emma actually encourages the MC and helps him to gain more confidence. This really sold the NTR path as a "what if" scenario where the MC did not man up like he did in the chad path. That's a small touch that I liked.

All in all I liked both paths for different reasons but I do fear that the chad path will be abandoned in the future. I have seen it happen to some games with NTR and I hope it doesn't come to that. I will still play it but it will be a shame.
Hope NTR doesn't become the focus, it does say avoidable on the OP, but if it does become the focus, then I'd be out. I wasn't even going to play this one as I saw the NTR tag and I am definitely not a fan personally. I know others enjoy it, but it's just not for me. However, a friend said that the NTR was avoidable, so I have been doing my best to avoid it.

I think the Aunt runs a high end escort service which is why she has so much power over the men in the city as she knows all their predilections. Marcus' dad's company worries me and I hope in the good path I am on (lol) that we get to take down Marcus and his dad a notch or many lol

Of course, these are all just my opinions.
 
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Drexelhand

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Yeah, this definitely isn't coming out in 2 days. I'd wager 2 weeks is good enough time for him to finish it.
 
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