randomguy6516265165

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ok smt I forgot to ask, so in the NTR routes we lose the girls but in the alpha one do we steal other dues girls and keep them for ourselfs?
 

Shirafune

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My verdict on the beta route:
Like NTR route:
Whilst 0.8 wasn't bad regarding Marcus X Tracy, this one ruined it completely. How did they get into bed together and even started kissing.. it went from like 10% to 100% in no time. If nothing will be shown in 1.0.. like a flashback, that's just terrible.
Dislike NTR route:
Whilst I get that he got Tracy drunk, still she was apologetic to Marcus and even forgave him the next day - once again that's way too quick. No idea what the writer's thinking but clearly if that's the direction he's taking can't see it ending well.
Sorry for being harsh but yeah, we were on a downward spiral but this update takes the cake.
P.S Emma stuff is great.
So it seems in both routes Marcus got Tracy drunk.. and doesn't remember making out with him/getting cunni from him.. doesn't really make it better but yeah
 

JezzBezozz

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So it seems in both routes Marcus got Tracy drunk.. and doesn't remember making out with him/getting cunni from him.. doesn't really make it better but yeah
But in both route she actually trying to hide something from MC maybe she really into him or Marcus and Tracy have a secret plan which needs to hide from MC....does it make sense?
 
Nov 12, 2022
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This game is really amateurish. Can't speak about alpha route, but beta route is a cluster-fuck.
  • You either play an 100% complete loser confidence wise, or you'll encounter scenes where your dick magically grows (there is at least one aunt scene with that)
  • Emma is apparently clinically retarded, because despite loving being watched having sex and having a literal cuck boyfriend that loves watching her get fucked, she does it behind his back. That's like the most retarded thing I've ever saw, where is logic in that? Why does she pretend she's hurting MC when Marcus brings up that she's cheating? He even acknowledges the fact that MC likes to watch and she's still like "yeah, please don't tell him". It should literally be the opposite, she should be the one sending the message to MC to lure him into library so he can watch her getting railed like a good cuck while she looks him in the eyes. Same with that movie watching night. Basically setting up different scenarios when MC is not expecting to tease/torture him.
  • Lucas and Weiku apparently do not exist in this universe anymore, looks like game got streamlined into Marcus fucking everything that moves.
  • Dream sequences - I agree, please don't put that shit in. It gives zero impact, it's not fun and it's a waste of time that could be used into developing actual scenes that happened in the story.
Basically it's a waste of a good potential and everything feels really disjointed. Emma and Tracy were my favourite characters, but both feel criminally underutilized. Emma should be your wicked GF, that teases you with different cuck scenarios because she likes you (she does after all, you can tell she geniuinely likes MC) and likes to tease you because it makes her feel good as well.

Imagine a scene where you both go on a date one night, it goes amazing, you end up in her room and she tells you to go down on her. After you finish and she orgasms, she tells you that you did a good job cleaning up what Marcus left in her, because they fucked just before your date and you can either fuck her sloppy seconds style or she can give you a handjob and tell a story how they did it. You know, stuff like that.

Tracy should be this nice mess of a woman who on one side is looking for a stable relationship and on the other - starts drowning in pleasure and fucks around with multiple men because she's a slut after all, just like aunt Liza said. You could control that with corruption vs love points, but again - they do fuck all in this game.

I really like the premise of this game and I really like the characters. DAZ models rarely make me feel anything, but this game is a rare exception. The story however just keeps getting more and more inconsequential and even broken.
 

JohnnyKiss

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This game is really amateurish. Can't speak about alpha route, but beta route is a cluster-fuck.
  • Emma is apparently clinically retarded, because despite loving being watched having sex and having a literal cuck boyfriend that loves watching her get fucked, she does it behind his back. That's like the most retarded thing I've ever saw, where is logic in that? Why does she pretend she's hurting MC when Marcus brings up that she's cheating? He even acknowledges the fact that MC likes to watch and she's still like "yeah, please don't tell him". It should literally be the opposite, she should be the one sending the message to MC to lure him into library so he can watch her getting railed like a good cuck while she looks him in the eyes. Same with that movie watching night. Basically setting up different scenarios when MC is not expecting to tease/torture him.
It's because there are supposed to be 2 versions of the Beta Route. One where the MC likes watching it and the other where he dislikes it where Emma does it behind his back. Which, like you said, does not work because of how poorly and lazily the game is made.

It's funny because the bug in the game which switches you from Alpha to Beta route regarding Emma actually improves the game, specifically the Beta Route. As someone who isn't into "cuckolding" aspect of the game but rather "cheating aspect", it bring a nice variation to the game because MC can refuse to watch Emma being fucked by Marcus at the party while she still does fuck him behind MC's back.

There should be at least 2 different Beta routes:
1. MC enjoys watching Emma getting fucked
MC spies Emma/Sophie/Marcus Threesome, MC jerks off to Emma blowing Marcus and then getting fucked by him, MC watches Emma and Marcus have sex at Lucas's place and finally the scene in this update
2. Emma cheats behind MC's back
This would mean that Emma only blows Marcus at the party (MC doesn't jerk off), then during the movie watching scene at Lucas' house, Emma and Marcus have sex behind MC's back (where he doesn't actually see them), only to find Emma cheating behind his back in the library with Marcus if MC chooses not to join/watch Karla in the showers
 

cartcurt

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Sophie's content is not progressing for a couple updates now for alpha route.
The last I know is when he chooses threesome at the party with Emma and Sophie. Then nothing.
At least one scene can be implemented at least for each update imo.
 
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It's because there are supposed to be 2 versions of the Beta Route. One where the MC likes watching it and the other where he dislikes it where Emma does it behind his back. Which, like you said, does not work because of how poorly and lazily the game is made.

It's funny because the bug in the game which switches you from Alpha to Beta route regarding Emma actually improves the game, specifically the Beta Route. As someone who isn't into "cuckolding" aspect of the game but rather "cheating aspect", it bring a nice variation to the game because MC can refuse to watch Emma being fucked by Marcus at the party while she still does fuck him behind MC's back.

There should be at least 2 different Beta routes:
True, true. I always assumed it would be the case. Alpha route, willing beta route (using women around you for your own benefit, basically willing cuck) and unwilling beta route (cuck who loses women around him and seethes because of that). Right now we have alpha and clusterfuck beta that doesn't make sense.

Imagine beta route where you help Marcus fuck Tracy, Sunny, Emma, even Karla - whatever. He's so grateful you two become best friends, he even starts telling you some dirty secrets about him and his dad's company. You then start manipulating/blackmailing him to make him do crazier and crazier stuff like threesomes/bdsm shit etc, maybe even turning your sis/mom/gf into whores/pornstars to make money off them and live like a king, but never fucking them personally and still getting off from being a cuck. Turning your house into brothel to make dough and living with aunt Liza who understands your fetish and is willing to make you happy. 100% corruption focus.

Nice alternate way between alpha chad who fucks every girl by himself and sad beta cuck, who's getting left behind classic ntr style. Third way of playing the game that would be equally as fun.
 
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Turret

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True, true. I always assumed it would be the case. Alpha route, willing beta route (using women around you for your own benefit, basically willing cuck) and unwilling beta route (cuck who loses women around him and seethes because of that). Right now we have alpha and clusterfuck beta that doesn't make sense.

Imagine beta route where you help Marcus fuck Tracy, Sunny, Emma, even Karla - whatever. He's so grateful you two become best friends, he even starts telling you some dirty secrets about him and his dad's company. You then start manipulating/blackmailing him to make him do crazier and crazier stuff like threesomes/bdsm shit etc, maybe even turning your sis/mom/gf into whores/pornstars to make money off them and live like a king, but never fucking them personally and still getting off from being a cuck. Turning your house into brothel to make dough and living with aunt Liza who understands your fetish and is willing to make you happy. 100% corruption focus.

Nice alternate way between alpha chad who fucks every girl by himself and sad beta cuck, who's getting left behind classic ntr style. Third way of playing the game that would be equally as fun.
Yes, it is sad how the game went down over time. At the start we had the "Chad" route, the happy cuckold and beta loser routes and the diplomat route, where you could choose if you wanted to pursue a girl or share her for all girls. I still have a save with Tracy in her "hot secretary" outfit, but on fully dating her route. Sunny is with Marcus in that save, Karla and Emma with the MC, that was very much possible, if you finetuned your points.
Now this has gone down the drain, because not only the various route bugs, but also because we do not get the points allocated correctly, which destroys the diplomat route since that needs a finely balanced point use. e.g. The missing points from the party at Marcus´(3 updates back) are STILL NOT fixed. We are talkling about up to 9(!) relationship points with Emma, at least 5 with Sophie and Sunny, a ton of confidence points and to worsen it, we have further events with missing or completely misallocated points.
 

wasdwasd321

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This is one of the best games that I have played, equal to dreams of desire, dmd and such but its still got its problems. Up until 0.8 the ntr route and alpha route was equally good and "made sense". But now the ntr route quality has gone down drastically to the point that I concider the alpha route cannon. First of all, the dev had a great story to continue on the tracy x marcus path but instead rushes the shit out of it to the point that Marcus apparently have given up hope of bagging tracy, so he resorts to fucking drugging her (in both beta routes) just to get som scenes between the two. Just seems super rushed and boring. Secondly if you for some reason choose to take the awful (that could have been awesome) tracy ntr route, all the other characters also gets on the ntr route for some reason. Feels like dev just gave up on the story between tracy and marcus and now just wanna rush out their scenes for some reason.

Alpha route score this update:10/10
Beta route score this update 3/10
 
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