ChaosOpen

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It was kind of only going to end one way in the end, even if Lotia never met Thrash, she is a champion and a Dracovalis, while Imos is an ordinary guy, she is not going to date down. If it wasn't Thrash it would be some noble or a rich merchant. This is a normal event for any man growing up, you spend a few years in the friend zone of a girl who thinks you beneath her before we eventually realize "this is going nowhere" then find a girl who is actually interested in you and getting married and living happily ever after. Imos could have been exploring the world meeting beautiful women to spend his life with, instead he spends all that time following around a lost cause.

Dating is an important life skill, Imos needs to get better at it.
 
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ForeverLosing

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It was kind of only going to end one way in the end, even if Lotia never met Thrash, she is a champion and a Dracovalis, while Imos is an ordinary guy, she is not going to date down. If it wasn't Thrash it would be some noble or a rich merchant. This is a normal event for any man growing up, you spend a few years in the friend zone of a girl who thinks you beneath her before we eventually realize "this is going nowhere" then find a girl who is actually interested in you and getting married and living happily ever after. Imos could have been exploring the world meeting beautiful women to spend his life with, instead he spends all that time following around a lost cause.

Dating is an important life skill, Imos needs to get better at it.
This is one of those realities of life that is simply 'too real' for most, and is why the NTR category gets shit on so often. A refusal to admit you're not the hot shit of the universe is just one of those growing up moments, but video games provide escapism that still allow it to be true. I've still yet to see a believable harem MC who's worth the affection he receives.
 

ChaosOpen

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This is one of those realities of life that is simply 'too real' for most, and is why the NTR category gets shit on so often. A refusal to admit you're not the hot shit of the universe is just one of those growing up moments, but video games provide escapism that still allow it to be true. I've still yet to see a believable harem MC who's worth the affection he receives.
The point I was trying to make wasn't that Imos couldn't find a beautiful woman that would love him, it was that Lotia wasn't going to be that woman and he needs to stop chasing her like a lost puppy. I mean for starters, chasing a woman has never worked and will never work. Period. However, during the game they pass through numerous towns, doubtless filled with beautiful women that would have made an excellent wife and he could have died happy and content with the woman he loves by his side. Men fall in love all the time, short men, tall men, fat men, skinny men, all of them meet beautiful women they mesh with both on an emotional and physical level simply by not chasing the one girl that isn't attracted to them. Even the hottest 10/10 guys aren't attractive to every woman. Fact is Imos wasn't attractive to Lotia, but that same may not be true of another woman. It isn't that he won't/can't meet a beautiful woman or even get a harem, both are entirely within the realm of possibilities, however he needs to learn to recognize a lost cause first and he seems to struggle with that.
 
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darthy321

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The point I was trying to make wasn't that Imos couldn't find a beautiful woman that would love him, it was that Lotia wasn't going to be that woman and he needs to stop chasing her like a lost puppy. I mean for starters, chasing a woman has never worked and will never work. Period. However, during the game they pass through numerous towns, doubtless filled with beautiful women that would have made an excellent wife and he could have died happy and content with the woman he loves by his side. Men fall in love all the time, short men, tall men, fat men, skinny men, all of them meet beautiful women they mesh with both on an emotional and physical level simply by not chasing the one girl that isn't attracted to them. Even the hottest 10/10 guys aren't attractive to every woman. Fact is Imos wasn't attractive to Lotia, but that same may not be true of another woman. It isn't that he won't/can't meet a beautiful woman or even get a harem, both are entirely within the realm of possibilities, however he needs to learn to recognize a lost cause first and he seems to struggle with that.
um lotia did love imos for real though. a bond between 2 childhood friends isnt that weak.

its just a combination of coping, bigger dick and stamina, and well the fact that imos got framed and she saw him go to a brother or whatever which mader her think he was cheating on her.

this weakened or broke her ideals about the love they had which made her more open to what she is naturaly attracted to as a women. the strong and confidant asshole guy . while this might make her super in heat it was not a good choice due to his abusive nature, it ended up being good at the end because he turned into a nicer guy for her though.

point is she was into imos. she didnt let the diffrence between them bother her , its just that barigess (thrash) made her desires more simple and made her desire a strong potent male. by constantly inticing her with his rediclous stamina and amount of sperm, on top of making imos seem like a bad guy when he is nice. this broke everything between lotia and imos because after all lotias biggest reason for choosing imos was his kind nature
 
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hiddink

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Even satan is afraid of this unholy creation.....
Indeed I am... i have this game on hidden because the sole fact of remember this causes in me a sensation to hit something xD i played this til the end just because i needed , i didn t even FAP i just wanted to finish it because i started it...and didn t leave me alone... i did it and i come back to see the victims of this horrendous game... ahhh AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
 

Gervoh

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Man, how can people praise the story or characters of this game when everybody's damn near retarded, by coincidence, was every party member born out of incest? How do you even feel anything towards the NTR, do you see real world counterparts in those characters and create a bond with them? I refuse to believe Lotia and Tori had a brain and I'm more inclined to believe they were both AI who were researching stupidty.
 

Kirino-7

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Does anybody knows where midi music was taken from? Obviously, it's not made for this game, but some free music that anyone could download. Some tracks was taken from there but how about others?
 

Astr028

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Does anybody knows where midi music was taken from? Obviously, it's not made for this game, but some free music that anyone could download. Some tracks was taken from there but how about others?
A couple of tracks, notably the title screen, is from this
 
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Shahglyndwer

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I ran into some kind of bug where after Imos try's to leave for home after watching his girl get fucked for three days my screen is now white and black and loud sounds are playing. it seems that I can move since I take poison damage but I can't see my character or anything

Please HELP!
 

senjuvilis

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I have played dozens of NTR's and always cheered for MC to be cucked as much as possible, loved the women indulging their whore selves, but this... this was different. This Is the first NTR game, where I was rooting for MC to get as much revenge as possible, especially on Lotia and Tori. Ended up hating them so fucking much.


The few ones I'd spare, if there was a choice, would be Aina (of course, she was the best girl, perhaps contested by dragon loli), the Nun (she didn't do anything bad besides running away, couldn't hate her) and Gray.
Why Gray since he also played pivotal role in betraying and setting up Imos? Because he helped Imos to keep his sanity during toilet cleaning times and he also tried to help saving Aina.

Tori -

The only thing i can say that saved what little of her humanity was left was Ace not telling her the aphrodisiacs/ poisons she created was used to frame and destroy her brother.
Considering how the poisoning event was all the talk in the town, there's no way in hell that Tori didn't eventually learn of what her poison was used for. Even if she was kept indoors all the time, there's no way someone of the men gangbanging her wouldn't slip up or tell her on purpose - they enjoyed badmouthing Imos in front of the girls.

So, yeah, I'm convinced she knew, yet still chose to abandon Imos and friends in favor of Ace.


Also, I see quite a few people calling Imos a coward - that's completely false - he was a mere human who stood up against superhumans again and again, took so much abuse and betrayal to finally break. Imos is a chad in that sense.



This game is well written to make us feel invested, that's somewhat rare among hentai games. 9/10
 

Stalkerman70

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Ah, I started and finished the whole thing over 2 days... it's amazing..
got all endings.
4 is prob my fav, I'd rather he Imos didnt die and live his life like that instead of being possibly reinc. in end 6
How to get the 7th ending when Imos & Thrash become the sworn brothers?I watched in Youtube
 

Maiuw2

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Can you please give me your save?
argh i think i deleted after i finished it. kind of finale way.
Sorry ;-; there should be someone on this thread with full save though, if i could do it, theirs def others.
 

IceHunt55

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Full save here. Save number 10 is just after killing the last boss. Open that save if you want to see last 2 endings of the game.

I've started playing this game 8 years ago. Today, I have finally managed to get the last two endings.

It was the first NTR game before I even knew what NTR is and what NTR games are. It had the most potential out of all rpgmaker games I played to tell a decent story. When we see Imos' eyes, and he stops being just a self-insert character, is one of the places where story turns to amazing. The characters, the art, the gameplay, the combat and the H-scenes were all incredible and thanks to this game I got to learn and play a lot of other NTR titles and games. It got me into this subgenre of hentai. I strongly believe that in order to write a great story with a netorare (not netori or netorase, those are child's play to write) element you need to be a God at writing, think a lot about the slow-burn, the pacing, the relationships etc.

HOWEVER, now that all these years have passed and I finally managed to see ending 5 and ending 6 (true end) after beating the last boss Phenice through cheating and with outside help from dear people of F95Zone (I have given up many times throughout the years on killing Phenice) I think the game isn't all that great for an rpgmaker game but I still believe that it has a lot of potential. It tries to be more than it really is and that's a revenge story adventure game with a netorare element. It is akin to the "Count of Monte Christo" of rpgmaker games but hentai and, in jrpg fashion, the God was the villain all along. If you asked me if I would play it again or bait someone into playing it (as was the tradition on 4chan years back before we got a lot of translated rpgmaker games we have today) I would say: "Yes, I would."

Cheers~
 
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