VN Ren'Py Completed Dating My Daughter [Ch. 1-4 v1.01] [MrDots Games]

[Proto Persona]

The explanation fits fine with daughters current personality. The skepticism stems from this "game" being blue balls simulator I think, slowly milking and dragging out every bit of new content.

If you're only playing this game to get off I think you chose the wrong adult game. ^_^

 

[Eerie Entity]

I've posted before about how I feel the writers don't much choice here. You can't have a sweet innocent character that has sexual attraction to her father and not also be naive as fuck. Playing "move the goalposts" about sexual subjects in about the only sane way to explain why she's slowly ok with the increasingly perverse acts she's committing. I've personally known people that claim shit like "anal sex isn't really sex, so I'm still a virgin" or "blowjobs don't count as cheating." Shit is more common that you'd expect.

As to her being unbelievably naive and innocent, well those kind of people really do still exist. She's refused to talk about, look at or watch anything of an adult nature up the the point of the game's story. Sure Elena is a big old slut, but that doesn't mean she hasn't respected D's wishes to not expose her to that stuff. As D seems to be pretty unpopular in school I'd say the odds of other kids talking to her about sex was pretty low. Yeah she knew what Lucas did was wrong, she knew it was wrong with her dad too and she said so. Difference is she didn't feel anything for Lucas. Deep down she's had feelings for her dad from the get go, and didn't know how to deal with them.

Yeah a lot of the mental gymnastics the characters are going through are rather bullshit to an outside observer. Most peoples hypocritical justifications are in real life too. Doesn't mean they don't make complete sense to the person that is using them. Especially when their emotions are making them want something bad, and they have to convince themselves there's a logical excuse to make it ok.

You want a good counter example of what you're seeing in this game, go play

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. The MC there is a former drug addict who has cleaned up his act. By the end of day one his estranged wife who has only talked to him online for months is already boning him and talking about moving him back in. By day 2 his oldest daughter is trying to get in his pants. Mother catches wind of this and is amazingly ok with it immediately. Few days later and his youngest daughter is in line too. No ramp up to getting to know them, no need to build any trust. It's fun and erotic, but from a story perspective the narrative is jarring and strains belief.

I'll take "Blue Balls Simulator" to "Incest Porn Tropes" anyday. At least that way I give a shit about the characters having sex by the time it happens.

Wow, damn, you sure did go above and beyond explaining all that, and so in-depth too, and I can't but to agree with all that. Like you said, people like that still exist today, more so than what one might believe actually, and there's nothing wrong with that to be honest, nothing wrong with complete innocence, sure it might be weird that one might be so oblivious, and naive, but is it wrong? No, I actually find it endearing. In today's world it seem like people are in such a hurry to have slept with at least 10 different girls/guys by the age of 18 and shit like that, but why is that? I have much more respect for slow-burn love with just one person for however long it may last. It's not the quantity of sex that matters, but the quality of it. Sure it might be great (and it is) to just casually have sex with no strings attached and so on, but it's much better with a person you love and lust for, person you're passionate about.

Hence I really appreciate the story of DMD and how slow but gradually they've been moving toward the penetrative act itself but more importantly getting to know each other more, becoming comfortable with one another and love just getting deeper and deeper, it's a believable story and a great one at that.

 

[Bass_Legend]

I laughed too hard at this. Don't agree that he's milking his fans though. The pace is slow, but I'd have a much much harder time buying into the story if it was faster. I'm not just here to get off.

Its not about pace, its about dumb shit like dragging out every convo. During new updates I find myself spacing out and skipping past 75% of the dialogue, skim reading. Blah blah blah blah get to the point. The whole game is a milk factory. If this was presented as a finished product from the start at a slow pace, I am sure it would be much more appealing and I wouldnt be bored / spacing out 75% of the time. Thats because the game would be designed to be a finished product delivered at a slow pace. Right now DMD is designed from ground up to be a month by month milk factory to get subs. Now that patreon is playing moral thought police, wagging their authoritarian fingers at us, I was expecting more but last update is still the same crap, and dont have high hopes for this one when its finished downloading.

 

[fried]

The explanation fits fine with daughters current personality. The skepticism stems from this "game" being blue balls simulator I think, slowly milking and dragging out every bit of new content.

I don't see support for your assertion.

Are you saying that the escalating and more adventursome sexual acts between D and MC, the full sex between D's mother and D's assigned boyfriend and the full sex between Elena and MC (if you go that route) in this last installment somehow = blue balls because D and MC haven't gone full PinV yet?

Do you understand that they are building up to that and why the buildup has been happening is a loooooong point of discussion in this thread? That his has been the model all along? And, that post-PinV they need a basis of a romance and supporting side-stories to make this go the full nine yards?

If all you desire is PinV, those limited tastes sound pretty boring, if you ask me . . .

 

[T-dog]

Couldn't get the photo shoot to open switched to a D only route chose the right log and got the yellow jewelry but still wouldn't unlock.

 

[Proto Persona]

This last update was close to the first addition to
Elena's character since she first appeared in DMD. She has had the most consistent personality in all of DMD.
Yeah, she is a thrill-seeker with alpha-female tendencies. She lives for herself and for the moment. This makes her dangerous to everyone else around her.
That pic on her phone can be used within the story in many, many ways.

Agreed. I dread who might end up seeing that pic, but I really doubt Elena is going to purposely use it against the MC and D.

People are calling DMD a romance, porn game, etc. Primarily, it is a sex tease. I would venture to guess that ~100% of DMD fans enjoys this particular fetish.

I'm here for the romance more than anything. The porn is a bonus. ^_^

Couldn't get the photo shoot to open switched to a D only route chose the right log and got the yellow jewelry but still wouldn't unlock.

You also need to have gotten the dress from Cassandra a few days back. If you didn't unlock that then the private photo shoot isn't an option.

 

[firzu]

I got it.
-yellow necklace
-Stump 1
-No, it's perfect
-private photoshoot


Good luck!

I can't get "No, it's perfect". Is that in the hotel after fireworks ? Could anybody give me a save with it ?

 

[Bass_Legend]

I don't see support for your assertion.

Are you saying that the escalating and more adventursome sexual acts between D and MC, the full sex between D's mother and D's assigned boyfriend and the full sex between Elena and MC (if you go that route) in this last installment somehow = blue balls because D and MC haven't gone full PinV yet? Do you understand that they are building up to that and why the buildup has been happening is a loooooong point of discussion in this thread? If all you desire is PinV, those limited tastes sound pretty boring, if you ask me . . .

Everything about this game feels extremely dragged out. Most of the production time is spent on high quality DAZ 3D custom renders, and dots draws out each conversation to maximize his limited resources. There is one unsatisfying sexual render thats not enough to fap to as a conclusion to each update.

 

[fried]

Its not about pace, its about dumb shit like dragging out every convo. During new updates I find myself spacing out and skipping past 75% of the dialogue, skim reading. Blah blah blah blah get to the point.

Seriously, my advice is to find a different game for your entertainment needs.

 

[nod24]

Primarily, it is a sex tease. I would venture to guess that ~100% of DMD fans enjoys this particular fetish.

Quite right.
I would even remove the "poking fingers", shown close-up, scenes of masturbation and urination. And if it were not for silicone boobs, it would have been great.
Сould even do without porn. ... All the same would happen porn.

 

[Proto Persona]

I can't get "No, it's perfect". Is that in the hotel after fireworks ? Could anybody give me a save with it ?

You also need to have chosen dare all 5 times in the game with D and Elena.

 

[Eerie Entity]

I laughed too hard at this. Don't agree that he's milking his fans though. The pace is slow, but I'd have a much much harder time buying into the story if it was faster. I'm not just here to get off.

Yeah indeed, if I wanted fap material just to fap, there are games out there with plenty of that, VNs are vastly about the story and relationship dynamics, not so much about sex/porn, even if they are adult visual novels, and I play VNs first and foremost for the story.

 

[fried]

I can't get "No, it's perfect". Is that in the hotel after fireworks ? Could anybody give me a save with it ?

You need to choose the yellow earrings from earlier in the day to get that option.

 

[Q Who]

I've posted before about how I feel the writers don't have much choice here. You can't have a sweet innocent character that has sexual attraction to her father and not also be naive as fuck. Playing "move the goalposts" about sexual subjects in about the only sane way to explain why she's slowly ok with the increasingly perverse acts she's committing. I've personally known people that claim shit like "anal sex isn't really sex, so I'm still a virgin" or "blowjobs don't count as cheating." Shit is more common that you'd expect.

As to her being unbelievably naive and innocent, well those kind of people really do still exist. She's refused to talk about, look at or watch anything of an adult nature up the the point of the game's story. Sure Elena is a big old slut, but that doesn't mean she hasn't respected D's wishes to not expose her to that stuff. As D seems to be pretty unpopular in school I'd say the odds of other kids talking to her about sex was pretty low. Yeah she knew what Lucas did was wrong, she knew it was wrong with her dad too and she said so. Difference is she didn't feel anything for Lucas. Deep down she's had feelings for her dad from the get go, and didn't know how to deal with them.

Yeah a lot of the mental gymnastics the characters are going through are rather bullshit to an outside observer. Most peoples hypocritical justifications are in real life too. Doesn't mean they don't make complete sense to the person that is using them. Especially when their emotions are making them want something bad, and they have to convince themselves there's a logical excuse to make it ok.

You want a good counter example of what you're seeing in this game, go play

You must be registered to see the links

. The MC there is a former drug addict who has cleaned up his act. By the end of day one his estranged wife who has only talked to him online for months is already boning him and talking about moving him back in. By day 2 his oldest daughter is trying to get in his pants. Mother catches wind of this and is amazingly ok with it immediately. Few days later and his youngest daughter is in line too. No ramp up to getting to know them, no need to build any trust. It's fun and erotic, but from a story perspective the narrative is jarring and strains belief.

I'll take "Blue Balls Simulator" to "Incest Porn Tropes" anyday. At least that way I give a shit about the characters having sex by the time it happens.

A lot of this makes sense except for E. If E is such a slutbag, A she won't be able to hook up with guys if D is around and B she can't even talk about guys really with D. So why is she best friends with D and hanging out with her?

 

[fried]

You also need to have chosen dare all 5 times in the game with D and Elena.

Isn't that the requirement for getting the 69 scene at the end of v0.18?

 

[nod24]

During new updates I find myself spacing out and skipping past 75% of the dialogue, skim reading. Blah blah blah blah get to the point.

Yes. After the first (the very first) updates, the author hired "helpers" who filled the text. Quite a shit happened. Empty, tasteless.

 

[Proto Persona]

Isn't that the requirement for getting the 69 scene at the end of v0.18?

Hmm. Maybe, the last few game days are blurred a bit in my head.

A lot of this makes sense except for E. If E is such a slutbag, A she won't be able to hook up with guys if D is around and B she can't even talk about guys really with D. So why is she best friends with D and hanging out with her?

Eh, Elena seems to get plenty of action, and even D knows about it. She just chooses not the hear the details. Elena could like qualities in D that have nothing to do with being an exciting party girl.

 

[Eerie Entity]

This last update was close to the first addition to
Elena's character since she first appeared in DMD. She has had the most consistent personality in all of DMD.
Yeah, she is a thrill-seeker with alpha-female tendencies. She lives for herself and for the moment. This makes her dangerous to everyone else around her.
That pic on her phone can be used within the story in many, many ways.
People are calling DMD a romance, porn game, etc. Primarily, it is a sex tease. I would venture to guess that ~100% of DMD fans enjoy this particular fetish.

You may be right that people love the tease and is a specific fetish of theirs, but not me, I mean, I hate tease if it doesn't lead anywhere, it's frustrating and I don't appreciate it, haha. But it's really just the fact that I play VNs for the stories, sure I appreciate the erotics that comes with, of course, but I appreciate it more if have connected with the characters engaging in it, if I feel a certain type of way. Hence why I don't appreciate live-action porn at all, maybe I'm just too much of a romantic type, but it is what it is, haha.

 

[firzu]

You need to choose the yellow earrings from earlier in the day to get that option.

I get yellow earrings and stump 1 and i'm only on D route and i back from bar and we go to bathtub

 

[Eerie Entity]

I don't see support for your assertion.

Are you saying that the escalating and more adventursome sexual acts between D and MC, the full sex between D's mother and D's assigned boyfriend and the full sex between Elena and MC (if you go that route) in this last installment somehow = blue balls because D and MC haven't gone full PinV yet?

Do you understand that they are building up to that and why the buildup has been happening is a loooooong point of discussion in this thread? That his has been the model all along? And, that post-PinV they need a basis of a romance and supporting side-stories to make this go the full nine yards?

If all you desire is PinV, those limited tastes sound pretty boring, if you ask me . . .

Haha, since you already said all I would have said in that one, then I can only say: "Exactly!" haha xD

Well, actually I just can't help but to wonder why so many keep nagging about slow-burn, can't people really appreciate that at all? I mean, it's not like there's NO penetrative sex in the VN to this point at all if that's what one is seeking, you can engage in the act with several different characters, but the theme with D and MC is the slow-burn romance LEADING to sex, bit by bit, it's romantic love that they have, why haste it, why rush things and take things too fast and possibly ruin shit up? Bleh. Slow-burn for life!