SojuThree

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I think you dont understand what I really try to say (maybe bc my english is bad) all what to say is that I prefer if al the thing wirh the D was optional, like more freely-choice, I dont know if you understand what I mean. Like yeah D falling in love with MC but MC still keep it under control.
But then it wouldn't be a porn game. There are a lot of romantic VNs with optional sex content. You should check them out! But you're not going to get that out of a sex game meant to appeal to incest loving perverts.

Also, you should look up Genetic Sexual Attraction. It's a real condition that effects parents and children who have been separated from a young age.
 

RustyV

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I doubt this will happen at all in the years to come. Remember we are talking about fap games, about slightly interactive CGI-Porn for nerds and everybody else with enough imagination to cum for a render. This genre is doomed to cater to the masses, bringing the most easiest and sought after route to release pressure. Given the Patreon success of some projects and the failure of others it is clear for every amateur developer to better bring the standard male-MC-harem-incest-taboo-route if they want to earn some money, because that's what the guys want.

Yes, we have some games with a more fleshed out and interesting story, we have some games with female MC's, and yes I'm sure there are guys out there who play these games only for their story and characters. But the 99% don't, they want hot renders and fast actions, clicking through the text to get to the next picture, missing every hint and idea of the game, leading them to this forum to ask for walkthroughs.

If you ask me, this will stay the standard, for everything else you would need a far broader audience.
Yes there is a formula that seems to work, but so what? Think of horror, or sci-fi monster movies. There is a standard formula to every plot: 1. the victims are trapped and are unable to call for help or the help will not arrive in time, 2. the monster/threat has an advantage over the victims, either stronger, smarter, or some other supernatural ability, 3. the victims have either inferior weapons or no weapons, 4. the victims (one or two usually) find a way to neutralize/escape the monster/threat, and 5. if successful grind out sequel after inane sequel.
From Plan 9 from Outer Space to Jaws how many fans watch these movies/shows and are unaware they are in fact watching the same basic plot over and over?
Your point is well founded and I do like to see new ideas tried but it is often too easy for a dev to consciously or unconsciously slip into a workable formula. It all comes down to the talent of the dev.
Knowing that players do click through the text allows mediocre devs to create a game for pure profit, not a good game but one that makes a quick buck. This is not all devs, some do try to create stories with fleshed out characters and a plot line that is interesting without porn.

Watch the Blink episode of Dr. Who to see how a formula plot line can become engrossing when crafted by a good writer.
 

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I had gotten bored with this for a while and stopped playing. So I just played it tonight. I'm surprised that someone said this was the most boring update. I like it.

Hoping he finally pops her cherry in the next one. It looks like its headed that way, but it would be a shame if F has to use a condom.

Condoms have no place in a game. You gotta raw dog that pussy.
 

SojuThree

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I had gotten bored with this for a while and stopped playing. So I just played it tonight. I'm surprised that someone said this was the most boring update. I like it.
I agree. So much tension with Elena.

But my question is... why doesn't Elena just crash Dad and D's party? She's such a free spirit and she knows I'm fucking D behind her back. But... so is she. Instead of being like "Fuck it! Group snuggle!" she's all uncharacteristically moapy. It's adding tension and keeping the blue balling going. But I can't help but think she's being written a little out of character.
 

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But my question is... why doesn't Elena just crash Dad and D's party? She's such a free spirit and she knows I'm fucking D behind her back. But... so is she. Instead of being like "Fuck it! Group snuggle!" she's all uncharacteristically moapy. It's adding tension and keeping the blue balling going. But I can't help but think she's being written a little out of character.
That's exactly what I was thinking. I got the impression for a moment that MrDots considered making Elena a jilted lover who rats on them out of jealousy, then came up with the idea that she'll do it by accident when Rachel sees that picture she took of D laying on top of F. MrDots is trying to figure out a way to close DMD so he can focus on Melody.

I'm on the D only route. But Elana's character has always been "You wanna fuck? Great follow me!". So she should be saying "You're fucking your F! Great! Can I get some of that action?" Either way...I have the feeling that end game is D or F blackmailing Rachael into letting them go. Elana's father is somehow part of Rachael's plot so he is also blackmailed into letting Elana go. Then Elana and D share F for the rest of their lives.

Unfortunately I think we'll only see D take the dick once or twice before the game closes.
 

RustyV

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I was thinking the same thing. Plus, I doubt he would stop DMD unless he was forced to. DMD is one of the most popular adult games on the internet right now. It'd make no sense for him to just suddenly stop.
yellomit is right about the game's popularity. Just look at how many D clones are out there and how many other games she cameos in.
If Mr. Dots wanted to kill DMD he had the opportunity. Seems like DMD is more than a game for him. The story line may have been abridged but from what has been posted by members of his dev team Mr.Dots wants to take the game to a form of its pre-ban conclusion.
Hopefully D gets banged many times in many updates and in many perversely pleasurable ways
Again just my opinion.
 

Chatterbox

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Is that confirmed?
It's just my impression from the way the story is going. Melody is gaining ground quickly, and DMD only gets updates every three months. I know MDots wants to take it back to it's former glory, but is it possible without Patreon? Perhaps I'm wrong and he has a plan to ramp it back up, and I'd be happy if that's the case.
 

SojuThree

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It's just my impression from the way the story is going. Melody is gaining ground quickly, and DMD only gets updates every three months. I know MDots wants to take it back to it's former glory, but is it possible without Patreon? Perhaps I'm wrong and he has a plan to ramp it back up, and I'd be happy if that's the case.
I don't know about that. I don't think it would make a lot of sense for him to close down DMD. With or without Patreon, people love incest games. Melody isn't even half as popular as DMD.

If he ruins the game that's making him popular, it's going to hurt the other game as well. And he's kind of screwed himself with the whole flower system. It's telling us we're right in the middle of the game. If petals start falling off faster, people are going to really notice.
 

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Knowing that players do click through the text allows mediocre devs to create a game for pure profit, not a good game but one that makes a quick buck. This is not all devs, some do try to create stories with fleshed out characters and a plot line that is interesting without porn.
But even those devs need incentives.

I am with you in asking for more creative content, most adult games use the same pattern every adult game uses. The same goes for music played on radio channels and movies in cinemas. There are rarely surprises to be seen or heard, most of the content the big audience consumes today is company-curated streamlined more-of-the-same... sequels, superheroes, nonsense hip hop, DJ sounds. But why? Because most of the audience don't care anymore to get thrilled by the unknown, they WANT and DEMAND more of the same, so the companies deliver. On small indie film festivals you find a few hundred people watching films that force the audience to follow closely and get surprised by turns they are not used to...but give it a Marvel or Star Wars Logo and millions of people rush into the cineplexes to see another episode of "hero wins".

So IMO it's our responsibility as clients and fans to support the things we really want to see. Take a look at the usual Patreon account, the numbers clearly state that we have a few big players like Darkcookie and MrDots, but most guys creep at a few dozens of fans. giving them almost no chance to gain momentum. As long as we only rally around the big players, we will get more of the same, because that's the message we fans give to the market. Lucky for us we have enough crazy devs out there to give us a few exceptions to this somewhat sad rule.:)
 

Chatterbox

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Melody isn't even half as popular as DMD.
When Melody v0.03 was released at the end of August MrDots had around 2700 supporters on his Patreon page. When v0.04 was released he had 3300. He now has over 4000. Melody is gaining ground fast.

I can't say how much of that is due to DMD, but if memory serves me correctly, he had over 7000 supporters when DMD was still on Patreon, and those people dropped off.

I agree about the popularity of incest games. Which is fucked up for newer devs like me. I'm developing my own game, but I can't have any incest in my game and still get support on Patreon. At best I'll probably never top 1000 supporters.
 
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