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What I do find interesting is how DMD has (more than most VNs) created a character in D that engenders such strong emotions in players. D seems to have moved from an adult fantasy game hottie to in a Pinocchio-esque manner becoming a real girl.
Yeah, I've previously offered the comparison of her story as being that of a fairytale princess, getting help in being released from an evil witch's grip and finding the real world can be so much more than she ever felt possible to realize. So, I agree it make sense that she's become the "real girl" now and all the benefits (plus detriments - see below) that should offer.


I agree with you that even if the MC has moved past father and morphed into significant-other there is a distinction between that and degenerate.

Actually Bestiality was in the tags when the game was first released. But, unless the dev team has changed their stance Jeff Steel has previously asserted that kink was only seen as a punishment route, and not for D.
The Pet Arc could also be D role-playing as a Hello Kittty (or whatever it's called), or just soon having a route where D becomes super submissive. IMO D reverting back to a submissive mouse would betray all the character development of D throughout the DMD VN.
I still feel it could work as a heat-of-the-moment kind of thing that occurs, with someone like Elena (who we know has unexplored kinks to offer) to nudge that moment on. It's not necessarily a full fall into a sub-personality or complete moral degeneracy - more mainstream folks have fantasized and/or done weird or socially unacceptable stuff than we might realize and/or accept, I feel:



Stuff happens and sometimes people might look back and say, "wha?" at those times, eventually recognizing how various circumstances came together to make things happen which they may have grown beyond since.

Another option could be that D does go too far in her partying ways and has such an encounter when already under the influence of drugs which help lower her inhibitions, affect her judgement, make her easy to lead on (i.e., temporarily submissive again, but not in a role-playing manner), etc. That could be used as a wake-up call for her and her support network to pull back the reigns a bit, learning from the extreme experience on how to avoid such pitfalls in the future, etc. And, it would still fit into a heat-of-the-moment event, just with additional influencers beyond being in the thrall of sexual insatiability and Elena, etc.

That is - and we're touching on the "real girl" emergence idea again - all her lifestyle freedoms should ideally come with a dark side of unforeseen consequences by certain excesses, I feel. Stuff that she needs to learn has to have some boundaries for safety's sake, even when you're otherwise going all out to have fun, etc.
 
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everything starts somewhere...

People didnt think video games would ever change... and no we have Dead or Alive re-worked to not offend body-positivity people...and their beach volleyball game banned in the west... we have less sexuallized females in Mass Effect Andromeda, we have handi-capped people as poster boys/girls of war games... etc... they remained silent thinking it would never get out of hand... it did...

Comics had the same thing happen... Look at Ms Marvel, too sexy, make her Captain Marvel and make her a butch... change Spider-woman's amazing outfit !! and make her pregnant fighting crime... also reduce her tits... make any new female hero coming out wear baggy clothes and full body suits, the only skin they should show is in their face...
Taking attractive women out of pop-culutre seems to have picked up steam when the turned Barbie into frumpy house frau Barbie.
Thankfully we have non-mainstream creators like the Mr.Dots team rebelling against the politically correct (I hate that term) artificially imposed ideals.
 

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I understand, you have your integrity and your taste.
You decide what you like and not, you decide who you want to support.
The only illogical thing is your statement that you will not play/support if there's optionals of fetishes you don't like.
Its all fiction and like Schrödinger's cat, you decide the reality of the story with your choices.
What you can not see, doesn't exists. Its computer rendering, so its not real, until you experience it with your own eyes and mind.
Let the DEV make a diversity of experiences for more people with different tastes.
What happens with D in all those alternative realities is only true for the observer, you don't need to take a stand for all the alternative realities, that is a question for the observers of those realities.
Congrats on using Schrödinger's cat in a discussion about an adult VN.(y)
 
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something is odd with the walkthrough

Day 23
Coffee with Georgina (Georgina path) • Make it work (the Georgina path remains “Unlocked”) or Breakup with Georgina (your relationship with Georgina will end - “Locked”)

I'm not getting this option, I've double checked to make sure I'm in a relationship with Georgina but it's not giving me the option to "Make it work" it's auto breaking up with her. What is going on?
 

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There's no choice, MC and Georgina just talk and then break up, with no "we will work things out". Like game automatically chosen to end this relashionship for us. I can turn relashionship back manually, I can load save from the moment after date with Georgina, but in 21.5 there's no choice during the date with Georgina.
came across same issue, bugged?
 
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Have to say after finishing this I'm honestly pretty unhappy with it. I left a detailed review however I can't help but feel this game is a way of making underage characters fuckable. Elena and D both have wildly disproportionate bodies, with their heads being massive and D's breasts appear to be rock solid. Elena especially looks like a 10-12 year old girl. D doesn't look much older, save the huge tits.

It honestly made me feel incredibly uncomfortable. The intent is obvious when it comes to the age of these characters.
 

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Have to say after finishing this I'm honestly pretty unhappy with it. I left a detailed review however I can't help but feel this game is a way of making underage characters fuckable. Elena and D both have wildly disproportionate bodies, with their heads being massive and D's breasts appear to be rock solid. Elena especially looks like a 10-12 year old girl. D doesn't look much older, save the huge tits.

It honestly made me feel incredibly uncomfortable. The intent is obvious when it comes to the age of these characters.
I'm surprised you didn't mention Jen. At least Elena has an adult ass. Jen has a huge head and a kid's body.
 
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I'm surprised you didn't mention Jen. At least Elena has an adult ass. Jen has a huge head and a kid's body.
Good point well made. I'd forgotten about her but Jen is a strong contender. They all are.
 

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Does anyone but me find it annoying you can't hide dialogue boxes to see the entire image?
Mr.Dots and his team create great renders and then they are partly obscured by a text box I can't temporarily hide to see the image.
 

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Does anyone but me find it annoying you can't hide dialogue boxes to see the entire image?
Mr.Dots and his team create great renders and then they are partly obscured by a text box I can't temporarily hide to see the image.
H key

~1400 posts and your don't know Ren'Py hide key? :oops:

I could understand not knowing that the middle mouse button also acts as the H / hide key
 
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Have to say after finishing this I'm honestly pretty unhappy with it. I left a detailed review however I can't help but feel this game is a way of making underage characters fuckable. Elena and D both have wildly disproportionate bodies, with their heads being massive and D's breasts appear to be rock solid. Elena especially looks like a 10-12 year old girl. D doesn't look much older, save the huge tits.

It honestly made me feel incredibly uncomfortable. The intent is obvious when it comes to the age of these characters.
It's why I didn't romance both of them. Way too sus for me.
 

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Every so often the H key does not work.. DK why... and then it works ... DK why... I’m a writer and not a coder. I will text over to MDots.
That happened to me with one DMD installment (early Chapter 2, I believe). I restarted the game executable, loaded an earlier save than previously and it worked again (i.e., both middle button and H key).

So, YMMV.


Have to say after finishing this I'm honestly pretty unhappy with it. I left a detailed review however I can't help but feel this game is a way of making underage characters fuckable. Elena and D both have wildly disproportionate bodies, with their heads being massive and D's breasts appear to be rock solid. Elena especially looks like a 10-12 year old girl. D doesn't look much older, save the huge tits.

It honestly made me feel incredibly uncomfortable. The intent is obvious when it comes to the age of these characters.
So, there are numerous posts in this thread on how their bodies are actually reflected in real-world women many of us know. This game caters to full-figured petite females (e.g., D), magazine model females (e.g., Georgina), petite+trim females (e.g., Elena, Jen), athletic females (e.g., Margo), average females (various others), etc. It even has an older nudist female and all that entails.

Sometimes, people call out the petite ones as you just did.

Again, as discussed earlier in the thread, I (and others) happened to volunteer knowing some Jen- and Elena-body type women in real life and not in some highly unusual and rare way - for me, they are scattered among some young adults (i.e., friends of my young adult kid), fellow school parents and my peers at work, so those characters haven't looked out of place to me.

Conversely, there have also been many posts about how unrealistic D's body appears for her age, which again raised the point from other posters that most of us know young adults in real life with similar bodies.

If we recognize that different people can like what they want in an adult VN and that MrDots is catering to a wider range of ideals+tastes in female body types, then it becomes obvious he's not out to sell lolis in an above-board game, IMHO. Further, that range of "offerings" doesn't affect what I prefer or fantasize about from a gaming standpoint because this game gives me lots of fun stuff to chew on, and hopefully others feel similarly about what they can appreciate most of the game (regardless of what else it contains).
 
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