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Check out men as I believe when you switch to sex with strangers, it drops - for women, it goes up. Maybe it allows women to focus more on the sex.? Idk
The gap may be because she doesn't want your dirty laundry shared with someone you know. It's safer with someone you don't.
 
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That's naive since the notion assumes that he doggy knows what consent is
That's not naive. Doggy is horny, there's a bitch in heat on all fours, she let's him on her back. That's consent. But, discussing this would be off topic and, in a porn game, no human or animal will be harmed. But if we discuss this more, we will be harmed by a mod ;)
 
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Well . . . by dint of the fact that this is a game, and it's determined by the choice of the player which storylines will or will not open, with none being deemed a deafult, then no, she can't have any of her own agency. She won't say "yes" or "no" to any available option without the players input, and the game often elects for those decisions to be made in-game, too.
D never actually chooses anything; the player makes all the decisions, because that's how choices in games work if there's no default. You want a MFF route with Elena, then you make the choices that will lead there. You want to have a D/F only route, then you make those choices too; funnily enough, if you want a MMF route, you have to make that choice, too.
I agree.
VNs are basically the you chose your own adventure books that were popular with children when I was young. You read a storyline to a point when you had to pick one of two options and then skip ahead to a certain page to which you were directed and continue the story from there until you had to pick another plot route.
That being said YOU the player are actually D's personal deity controlling her fate. Your whims will decide what path she will explore. To make a pop-culture reference you're kind of like God (Chuck) in this last season of Supernatural.
Mr.Dots and his team gives you chances to opt out of a particular action. So you can have a D-Only-For-Me route, a D-Does-DMD route, or a middle ground of D's-Lez-Be-Friends route. It's all up to you.

What I do find interesting is how DMD has (more than most VNs) created a character in D that engenders such strong emotions in players. D seems to have moved from an adult fantasy game hottie to in a Pinocchio-esque manner becoming a real girl.
 
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Yeah, but they are supposed to be "in love", so we can give that a pass.
Fucking an animal is way way past that, would you let your daughter fuck a random hobo? or a methhead? No. You know why? Because you are her father, her safety is in your hands, so you forcing/allowing her to fuck an animal, with the insane risk of catching a disease that this have, coupled with the moral twistery that you have do for it, turns you into a garbage of a parent/human being. So yes, he's not half decent, but at least he's not supposed to be a degenerate.

Is this the game we were sold at the start? Fuck no. Does people have a right to complain about it? Of course.
I agree with you that even if the MC has moved past father and morphed into significant-other there is a distinction between that and degenerate.

Actually Bestiality was in the tags when the game was first released. But, unless the dev team has changed their stance Jeff Steel has previously asserted that kink was only seen as a punishment route, and not for D.
The Pet Arc could also be D role-playing as a Hello Kittty (or whatever it's called), or just soon having a route where D becomes super submissive. IMO D reverting back to a submissive mouse would betray all the character development of D throughout the DMD VN.
 
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What I do find interesting is how DMD has (more than most VNs) created a character in D that engenders such strong emotions in players. D seems to have moved from an adult fantasy game hottie to in a Pinocchio-esque manner becoming a real girl.
Yeah, I've previously offered the comparison of her story as being that of a fairytale princess, getting help in being released from an evil witch's grip and finding the real world can be so much more than she ever felt possible to realize. So, I agree it make sense that she's become the "real girl" now and all the benefits (plus detriments - see below) that should offer.


I agree with you that even if the MC has moved past father and morphed into significant-other there is a distinction between that and degenerate.

Actually Bestiality was in the tags when the game was first released. But, unless the dev team has changed their stance Jeff Steel has previously asserted that kink was only seen as a punishment route, and not for D.
The Pet Arc could also be D role-playing as a Hello Kittty (or whatever it's called), or just soon having a route where D becomes super submissive. IMO D reverting back to a submissive mouse would betray all the character development of D throughout the DMD VN.
I still feel it could work as a heat-of-the-moment kind of thing that occurs, with someone like Elena (who we know has unexplored kinks to offer) to nudge that moment on. It's not necessarily a full fall into a sub-personality or complete moral degeneracy - more mainstream folks have fantasized and/or done weird or socially unacceptable stuff than we might realize and/or accept, I feel:



Stuff happens and sometimes people might look back and say, "wha?" at those times, eventually recognizing how various circumstances came together to make things happen which they may have grown beyond since.

Another option could be that D does go too far in her partying ways and has such an encounter when already under the influence of drugs which help lower her inhibitions, affect her judgement, make her easy to lead on (i.e., temporarily submissive again, but not in a role-playing manner), etc. That could be used as a wake-up call for her and her support network to pull back the reigns a bit, learning from the extreme experience on how to avoid such pitfalls in the future, etc. And, it would still fit into a heat-of-the-moment event, just with additional influencers beyond being in the thrall of sexual insatiability and Elena, etc.

That is - and we're touching on the "real girl" emergence idea again - all her lifestyle freedoms should ideally come with a dark side of unforeseen consequences by certain excesses, I feel. Stuff that she needs to learn has to have some boundaries for safety's sake, even when you're otherwise going all out to have fun, etc.
 
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everything starts somewhere...

People didnt think video games would ever change... and no we have Dead or Alive re-worked to not offend body-positivity people...and their beach volleyball game banned in the west... we have less sexuallized females in Mass Effect Andromeda, we have handi-capped people as poster boys/girls of war games... etc... they remained silent thinking it would never get out of hand... it did...

Comics had the same thing happen... Look at Ms Marvel, too sexy, make her Captain Marvel and make her a butch... change Spider-woman's amazing outfit !! and make her pregnant fighting crime... also reduce her tits... make any new female hero coming out wear baggy clothes and full body suits, the only skin they should show is in their face...
Taking attractive women out of pop-culutre seems to have picked up steam when the turned Barbie into frumpy house frau Barbie.
Thankfully we have non-mainstream creators like the Mr.Dots team rebelling against the politically correct (I hate that term) artificially imposed ideals.
 

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I understand, you have your integrity and your taste.
You decide what you like and not, you decide who you want to support.
The only illogical thing is your statement that you will not play/support if there's optionals of fetishes you don't like.
Its all fiction and like Schrödinger's cat, you decide the reality of the story with your choices.
What you can not see, doesn't exists. Its computer rendering, so its not real, until you experience it with your own eyes and mind.
Let the DEV make a diversity of experiences for more people with different tastes.
What happens with D in all those alternative realities is only true for the observer, you don't need to take a stand for all the alternative realities, that is a question for the observers of those realities.
Congrats on using Schrödinger's cat in a discussion about an adult VN.(y)
 
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something is odd with the walkthrough

Day 23
Coffee with Georgina (Georgina path) • Make it work (the Georgina path remains “Unlocked”) or Breakup with Georgina (your relationship with Georgina will end - “Locked”)

I'm not getting this option, I've double checked to make sure I'm in a relationship with Georgina but it's not giving me the option to "Make it work" it's auto breaking up with her. What is going on?
 

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There's no choice, MC and Georgina just talk and then break up, with no "we will work things out". Like game automatically chosen to end this relashionship for us. I can turn relashionship back manually, I can load save from the moment after date with Georgina, but in 21.5 there's no choice during the date with Georgina.
came across same issue, bugged?
 
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Have to say after finishing this I'm honestly pretty unhappy with it. I left a detailed review however I can't help but feel this game is a way of making underage characters fuckable. Elena and D both have wildly disproportionate bodies, with their heads being massive and D's breasts appear to be rock solid. Elena especially looks like a 10-12 year old girl. D doesn't look much older, save the huge tits.

It honestly made me feel incredibly uncomfortable. The intent is obvious when it comes to the age of these characters.
 

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Have to say after finishing this I'm honestly pretty unhappy with it. I left a detailed review however I can't help but feel this game is a way of making underage characters fuckable. Elena and D both have wildly disproportionate bodies, with their heads being massive and D's breasts appear to be rock solid. Elena especially looks like a 10-12 year old girl. D doesn't look much older, save the huge tits.

It honestly made me feel incredibly uncomfortable. The intent is obvious when it comes to the age of these characters.
I'm surprised you didn't mention Jen. At least Elena has an adult ass. Jen has a huge head and a kid's body.
 
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I'm surprised you didn't mention Jen. At least Elena has an adult ass. Jen has a huge head and a kid's body.
Good point well made. I'd forgotten about her but Jen is a strong contender. They all are.
 

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Does anyone but me find it annoying you can't hide dialogue boxes to see the entire image?
Mr.Dots and his team create great renders and then they are partly obscured by a text box I can't temporarily hide to see the image.
 

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Does anyone but me find it annoying you can't hide dialogue boxes to see the entire image?
Mr.Dots and his team create great renders and then they are partly obscured by a text box I can't temporarily hide to see the image.
H key

~1400 posts and your don't know Ren'Py hide key? :oops:

I could understand not knowing that the middle mouse button also acts as the H / hide key
 
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