401Grem

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Why Mr. Dots would reduce the number of save slots seems silly to me. You should give the player more options, not less. I get that some designers want to 'make it harder for you', but if that is the case, don't allow saves at all.
There ar over 200 pages for saves, or did you not notice?
 
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It was short lived, never trust anyone with a masters or higher in Psychology, they are seriously messed up.
I believe in long-term relationships. Since you only had a childhood fling that last decades, you really can't judge mature relationships, as having many relationships gives one knowledge on a grand scale. The issues we had had nothing to do with how fast we moved, but her bad habits which got worse with time.
Anyways, good luck. My sister began her relationship at 15 and has been married to him for 42 years. Both children of abusive broken family. But, hey, your one experience is better than everyone else's.
By no means is my "one" experience better than anyone elses. Of course since you seem to think that any long-term relationship is "just a childhood fling" you seem to think your many relationships gives you some wonderful insights. I was in my 20's when I met my wife, so yeah well past childhood. Love the fact that you seem to think I can't judge mature relationships since I've been in one so long. Well guess maturity is what you make of it. Anyway, peace, enjoy your life and lets drop this before we derail the thread from our discussion of our porn game preferences.
 

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It's a STORY, and like most stories there are other people involved and side tracks along some of their lines that play into the story as a whole.
 

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Well but she said that it was a relationship arranged by both parents, so I don´t think there was much dating or boyfriend/girlfriend action. They were just together.
He´s her boyfriend (She tells F the first day) and he´s 20, not 12, so it´s suppose that they have dated and do more things than look at each other eyes. She´s not a nun that don´t know a thing about men, as it seems sometimes.
 
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He´s her boyfriend (She tells F the first day) and he´s 20, not 12, so it´s suppose that they have dated and do more things than look at each other eyes. She´s not a nun that don´t know a thing about men, as it seems sometimes.
But that's what I´m saying, she has no reason to be so innocent (I mean so... so innocent). when she watched the movies with dad and the sex scenes appeared, I mean is natural that she feels uncomfortable (I mean she is next to her dad), but at the same time she acts (and game makes you believe... i guess) that she know nothing about sex... nothing at all. And nowadays even like a 12 year old, knows the basic, sometimes she acts like she doesn´t even know how babies are born... XD
I don´t mind her innocence (that plays a great role on the game), but like you said, if I understood right, sometimes they make her look more than that, like she lived in a cage her whole life.
 
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But that's what I´m saying, she has no reason to be so innocent (I mean so... so innocent). when she watched the movies with dad and the sex scenes appeared, I mean is natural that she feels uncomfortable (I mean she is next to her dad), but at the same time she acts (and game makes you believe... i guess) that she know nothing about sex... nothing at all. And nowadays even like a 12 year old, knows the basic, sometimes she acts like she doesn´t even know how babies are born... XD
I don´t mind her innocence (that plays a great role on the game), but like you said, if I understood right, sometimes they make her look more than that, like she lived in a cage her whole life.
Sorry, English is not my first language and I think I misinterpreted you. We are saying the same thing.
 
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But that's what I´m saying, she has no reason to be so innocent (I mean so... so innocent). when she watched the movies with dad and the sex scenes appeared, I mean is natural that she feels uncomfortable (I mean she is next to her dad), but at the same time she acts (and game makes you believe... i guess) that she know nothing about sex... nothing at all. And nowadays even like a 12 year old, knows the basic, sometimes she acts like she doesn´t even know how babies are born... XD
I don´t mind her innocence (that plays a great role on the game), but like you said, if I understood right, sometimes they make her look more than that, like she lived in a cage her whole life.
NOT so sure she does know the basics,
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Sorry, English is not my first language and I think I misinterpreted you. We are saying the same thing.
Lol...Or maybe is my english that is not that good either :) And Yes I think we are in the same line of thought... So Long- Story-short, daughter is old enough to know some shit at least, and not be so innocent.
 
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Yes we know that, but even if she was in a school girl-only (and the game clearly makes you believe that she doesn´t know shit). Yes I belive that she probably never seen a man naked before dad, yes I believe that she was never touched by a man before dad, but sometimes she acts like she doesn´t know that boys and girls touch each other (In several ways) and that doens´t make sense to me, but that is my way to see it :)
 

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First of all I know a hell of a lot about computers and their capabilities. you are assuming something you don't know. and if you know so much you know it would NOT be the GRAPHICS card that "RENDERS" the image, but the CENTRAL PROCESSOR, MEMORY and the Frequency at which the board's crystal resonates that deal with how long RENDERS take. Before you go on and tell me I am wrong look it up! the Graphics cards only process what they are told for SCREEN RESOLUTION and DISPLAY purposes only! If you have a DUAL or TRI graphics card installation then the other two are assistance for the main GPU but can be tasked to HELP with CPU tasks IF the system is set up properly for that. From what you just said here, you are a "blowhard" or someone who thinks they know more than they do. (I make that determination from your assumption that the video card is what does the rendering of the actual image, the video card only RENDERS an image on a screen it does not make it into the FILE that is put into these Visual Novels). Your point that he could buy a computer that NASA uses, that is an out right lie because they don't use powerful pcs, for the stations they use generally and moderately powerful systems but for true calculations they use MAINFRAME computers.



Nicely done, but did you take into account the positioning of the objects? did you make the resolution as high as what Mr. Dots does? did you change anything from the initial image that you were being told to work with? did you change the speculative lighting, did you increase the bust size of the image, the color of the skin? that picture is lower resolution than what Mr. Dots does. and it still took 7 minutes to render. I'm not arguing that he couldn't have a better computer but if one picture takes say 10 minutes to render and there are 90 such pictures to be done, that's 900 minutes for the first run. then you have the ones that didn't render like you thought say that was 10 of those, there is another 100 minutes. so far we are up to 1000 minutes put into this and that is a total of 16 hours just for those pictures, then you have to put in the time to change how the outfit looks on the character, make sure it isn't hanging off unless that's what it's supposed to be doing. and then take into account writing the code in the game software, plus writing the script It is much more involved than you expect.

PTOLEMY of Dreaming of Dana even said that he could not do more than 200 renders in one weekend and write a story and get an update out, and instead of the 100 renders he was thinking to release 1/2 at a time it took him an extra 7 days to get everything out!
ACTUALLY...

These days, a number of the rendering engines support GPU rendering, or are working towards that direction.

AMD supports GPU rendering in Blender. I'd guess that there's an NVidia option there too, but I'm too lazy to look it up.

Specifically, Daz Studio (Mr. Dots uses Daz Studio for his renders btw) supports Nvidia Iray. Iray cuts down your render times A LOT, and looks very nice in the process. Sure, if you go the 3Delight route, then your GPU won't help, but Daz is all about Iray these days, and the more cuda cores you have the better!

The amount of system ram matters too. You want at least 32 GB. The CPU is less important, UNLESS you are NOT using Iray. If you are using Iray, you want the maximum amount of Vram on an NVidia card that falls within your budget. Vram won't 'stack' for multiple cards (each card has to be able to hold the entire scene), which is why the 1080 Ti's and 1080 Xp's are considered the best option (11 GB and 12 GB of Vram respectively).

This is why Daz recommends multiple GPUs for rendering. Multiple GTX 1080Ti's are considered the holy grail for Daz renderers these days. Yes, there's the 1080 xp, but that only gives you an additional Gb of vram and a slightly faster GPU for almost twice the price of a 1080 Ti, so most Daz renderers are going the multiple Ti route instead if they have that much cash available. 2 1080 Ti's are much faster than a single 1080 xp.

GPU Rendering doesn't just increase your speed a little bit. It's a huge deal, that cuts down your render times almost by an order of magnitude (unless you have say 32 cores/64 threads or more, but even then GPU rendering wins out in Iray). At least for Iray. I haven't used the other rendering engines much, but a lot of people on the Daz forum have, and they are all patiently awaiting more GPU rendering support for the programs that don't support it yet, because that's the wave of the future.

Carry on!
 
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There ar over 200 pages for saves, or did you not notice?
You are correct. I hadn't noticed. I did see the arrow keys, but I thought that was just for advancing pages between the first and the last page, not jumping to a new set of pages (will have to look again).

Thanks for pointing this out! I probably would have remained oblivious to the 200 pages of saves otherwise.

I'll look into this for my own mod, but I still dislike the look of the new interface. And the lack of a quicksave button and the locking out of autosaves...

Having 10 saves per page is better than 6, assuming that the other 'new' info can be incorporated as well. Plus, the old interface is a better design IMHO, so I'm taking a crack at it. I'm already poking around in the code, so adding 'page forward/back' buttons should be easy to do, assuming that I can fully graft what Mr. Dots did in .11 onto the old interface...

BTW, THIS is what I"m working towards at the moment:



It should be possible to add up/down arrows above and below the 0-9, as to how to make more pages available, that's another story. This provides 120 save slots currently (10 auto, 10 quick, and 100 regular saves), and I have that many slots working in my WIP build, and I'm about to tackle grafting the corruption, friendliness, love and date displays, and also adding the text entry to the .10 interface.

I'll keep everyone posted. I'm sharing my progress in my D.M.D. Interface mod thread, but wanted to share here real quick as well. BTW, this also makes your 'hidden saves' available as well. The new interface doesn't remove them, it just doesn't access them/make them available to you...

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This won't fix broken saves at the end of day 10 though. Your best bet, as far as rescuiing those saves, is to open those in .10, use the page up key to back up a bit in the conversation, and then save there, and pick up from there in .11. It's the very very end of the day that was changed, and that's where the saves break, because Mr. Dots changed the end of the day for .11.
 
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Oh how sheltered. After our second date my 3rd wife and I got reprimanded by her landlord for "excessive vocalizations with disturbed several neighbors"...complete with full text recount.
And the person that became your 3rd wife was an innocent inexperienced under 20 yr old, who has lived a sheltered semi-religious life, and who you'd basically meet for the first time 10 days prior to that second date perchance?:):p
 

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First of all I know a hell of a lot about computers and their capabilities. you are assuming something you don't know. and if you know so much you know it would NOT be the GRAPHICS card that "RENDERS" the image, but the CENTRAL PROCESSOR, MEMORY and the Frequency at which the board's crystal resonates that deal with how long RENDERS take. Before you go on and tell me I am wrong look it up! the Graphics cards only process what they are told for SCREEN RESOLUTION and DISPLAY purposes only! If you have a DUAL or TRI graphics card installation then the other two are assistance for the main GPU but can be tasked to HELP with CPU tasks IF the system is set up properly for that. From what you just said here, you are a "blowhard" or someone who thinks they know more than they do. (I make that determination from your assumption that the video card is what does the rendering of the actual image, the video card only RENDERS an image on a screen it does not make it into the FILE that is put into these Visual Novels). Your point that he could buy a computer that NASA uses, that is an out right lie because they don't use powerful pcs, for the stations they use generally and moderately powerful systems but for true calculations they use MAINFRAME computers.
  • I didn't mention any NASA computers, you've mistaken me with a previous poster...
  • I've been using DAZ studio for the past 5 years and render images regularly so i think i know at least a little bit about this, from what i've see the kind of images this game uses, i see nothing super mega complicated to render, so they don't take a loooonggg time as you mentioned,(fair point, they may take some time to prepare, as you mention on your next answer), anyway my computer is 3 years old and i've a $300 nvidia video card, i render images at 1920x1080, and they don't take long hours or days to render, because i've the nvidia video card, the Cpu have little to do in the process. Go use a super mega computer with latest CPU and memory, etc, but uses a shitty non-nvidia graphic card VS average computer with recent NVidia graphic card, and then come tell me which one is faster to render images on DAZ studio / IRAY engine (the same this game uses)
  • You should read and learn a bit about IRAY and GPU rendering before embarrassing yourself even more with long messages that shows that you know absolutely nothing about DAZ and IRay
  • You're a fan of this game, it's all right, i once was too, and a top tier supporter, i'm no longer one, the reasons are on my previous post
  • if you're going to answer this i emphasize again the need of you learning about "IRAY and GPU rendering", just saying...
 
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Regarding the render and time discussion: I have said it before in another thread but gladly repeat it. Any developer who uses Iray could simply batch render with Iray server. Especially those who go and take Patreon money have no excuse to use the old burning laptop - that is simply unprofessional. There are tons of server farms out there who offer Iray servers for batch rendering if one isnt capable of paying the 300 bucks for their own server license.
 

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R.E. game design worload:

Do not underestimate the amount of time it takes to set up a scene in the first place, let alone each frame of an animated scene. You need to position the figure for each frame, making minor adjustments to the body parts and such to suggest motion. Like when boobs are bouncing when the gals are getting banged. Then there are the facial expressions.

Sure, there are aniblocks for this in Daz, but for erotic scenes, yeah you pretty much have to start from scratch. There may be a couple of animations for those on Renderotica, but usually you end up doing your own.

Sure, with a decent machine you can generate each render in minutes, sometimes less than a minute, but it's the setup that takes a long time. Plus you have to dial in the lighting as well...

And, if you are customizing an environment (say designing a room using building blocks as opposed to a pre-packaged one), yeah that takes even more time to set up.

Mr. Dots adds a fair number of pics and animations to each update, so as far as 'utilizing his time' yeah he's already investing quite a bit of it into this game. Possibly even 'full time job' time, although I assume that he has a life outside of D.M.D....

No question that he's raking in the bucks, but as far as the amount of content he's adding to each update, for one person that's impressive. Of course, if the suggested income level a few posts ago is where he's at, sure he could afford to set up his own business with multiple employees, but then group think might creep in. That can be good or bad.
 
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