VN Ren'Py Completed Dating My Daughter [Ch. 1-4 v1.01] [MrDots Games]

[Saraf]

that i agree with, but i do think its just setup this update and the next will have a share focus, then we will mostly likely get a poly focus after that and a return of elena jennifer and georgina, remember georgina wanted too stay a night with f and d probadly only on that route and if not georgina then most likely jennifer instead.

Possible but then its executed rather badly as its intentions are unclear.
The entire problem here is that the sudden change contradicts her prior actions and doesnt really give us any reason as to why.
In a narrative that so heavily relies on inner monologues I expect a bit more than a "*sigh*" at that point.
Normally I would give the benefit of the doubt and just ignore it till some later update gives clarification on the situation but with how .24 makes some rather jarring changes to the underlying game mechanics I cant help but feel that someone found the character motivations of Jennifer and Elena too closely tied and suddenly wanted to course correct there as well(and if that really is the case,Jennifer certainly would have been the better choice,if still not a good one).

 

[Jeff Steel]

That's how I see it. I don't know what was proposed and when, but the game is called "Dating my Daughter" and not "Sharing my Daughter" and the way the first two chapters progressed didn't suggest anything different. Even the Elena/D relationship has a different dynamic. Other than that, we had a lot of build up so the MC/D relationship get to the point it is now, while the sharing paths (exept for Elena's) feel way too rushed to me. Just to add some BBC and to make the people who kept asking for NTR happy with something close enough since they won't get what they want. I don't see it add up to the rest of the story so far. But like I said, that's just my personal opinion. I'll still play the paths, I like so far.

I know the speed of the new sexual events seems fast, but it is not internally inconsistent with what was slowing down her previous development, which was a combination of emotional trust and with breaking a taboo. I would argue, outside of that, there isn’t any particular sexual act that she had an issue with doing.

Second, as most of us may remember, that moment you first have sex opens up a rush so that you want to try so many things right away... or at least that was my experience with my first gf.

Finally, and tongue in cheek, F still is Dating His Daughter, except they are now Double Dating.

Have to say Im not too happy with the new update shoving Elena purely into the sexual attraction-only realm.
We have plenty of sharing routes that solely seem to run on that so pushing the one route that actually has a semblence of a developed relationship into it as well feels like a bad choice(and rather forced at this point).
Maybe its just setup for later character revelations/development but if the narrative seriously intends to go that way...yeah complete waste.

Yeah. We’ve discussed this issue among the team. It is not the intention to preclude a “Love” relationship and, imo, that scene deserves a dialogue rewrite.

 

[eddie987]

Second, as most of us may remember, that moment you first have sex opens up a rush so that you want to try so many things right away... or at least that was my experience with my first gf.

Of course I wanted to try many things (everything I could think of actually) right away, but I wasn't able to do that, because it was her first time too and women don't have the same mentality with men. Things tend to work slower with them. And definitely none of those things was to share her with my buddies. There are exceptions of course, but D is portrayed as an innocent shy girl who fell madly in love with a guy and now is going cock hungry just after a couple of months (while they're still together) and wants to "try" different cocks. Anyway. You do you man. It doesn't really matter how I see it.

 

[slackster]

Yeah. We’ve discussed this issue among the team. It is not the intention to preclude a “Love” relationship and, imo, that scene deserves a dialogue rewrite.

Jeff - is the writing team re-reading the whole of the previous character's dialog every month or so to keep the characters personalities consistent?
As per my quick review of 0.24 up thread I too found Elena's dialog jarring. Hope to see this addressed

 

[Saraf]

Yeah. We’ve discussed this issue among the team. It is not the intention to preclude a “Love” relationship and, imo, that scene deserves a dialogue rewrite.

Good to know that its at least discussed among the team.
Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Casual Observer]

Of course I wanted to try many things (everything I could think of actually) right away, but I wasn't able to do that, because it was her first time too and women don't have the same mentality with men. Things tend to work slower with them. And definitely none of those things was to share her with my buddies. There are exceptions of course, but D is portrayed as an innocent shy girl who fell madly in love with a guy and now is going cock hungry just after a couple of months (while they're still together) and wants to "try" different cocks. Anyway. You do you man. It doesn't really matter how I see it.

Honestly, the MC is painted as having a member that is way more than exceptional and she loves him and trusts him completely. They currently have sex so often that her patch has to be practically raw hamburger down there. It doesn't really add up that she is fantasizing about anyone else tbqh. Previously the only time she has been exposed to and tries different things (at least that I can remember) is when others push that on her (to further their own interests) as acceptable and rationalize it effectively and that should be the way it always is or you aren't corrupting her, which is the core principle of the game. Whatever choices they make about other character arcs they should always maintain the D as being lead to these outcomes imho.

 

[Jeff Steel]

Jeff - is the writing team re-reading the whole of the previous character's dialog every month or so to keep the characters personalities consistent?
As per my quick review of 0.24 up thread I too found Elena's dialog jarring. Hope to see this addressed

Probably every third release has a reworked dialogue. I don’t see it as needing to reread the prior dialogue as it is obvious. But the Elena scene is one to get this. Way back we entirely re-write a Georgina scene.

 

[Jeff Steel]

Of course I wanted to try many things (everything I could think of actually) right away, but I wasn't able to do that, because it was her first time too and women don't have the same mentality with men. Things tend to work slower with them. And definitely none of those things was to share her with my buddies. There are exceptions of course, but D is portrayed as an innocent shy girl who fell madly in love with a guy and now is going cock hungry just after a couple of months (while they're still together) and wants to "try" different cocks. Anyway. You do you man. It doesn't really matter how I see it.

Here are, imo, the brass tacks - D is going through a whole series of successes since she left her mother. Getting her freedom and leaving her mother; first sex; moving to arguably an awesome new home and town on the seashore.

When you have multiple successes, your brain gets all kinds of endorphins, dopamine and serotonin.

I don’t disagree with you that women are less likely that men to work slower with sex, or at least that is what society thinks. But society also thinks that an “overly protected child” let loose in the world tends to go overboard. Society also thinks that people meeting sudden fame and fortune also go overboard. And, imo, there is an argument that you can go overboard with your first love, especially if they continue to meet or exceed your romantic expectations.

Perhaps the lead in to this section of the VN could be better - like have that “touchstone” character for D to check or question her behavior. Maybe a rework here or there of the dialogue.

Btw, the first person on this upward arc that even questioned her is that new model.

 

[eddie987]

Here are, imo, the brass tacks - D is going through a whole series of successes since she left her mother. Getting her freedom and leaving her mother; first sex; moving to arguably an awesome new home and town on the seashore.

When you have multiple successes, your brain gets all kinds of endorphins, dopamine and serotonin.

I don’t disagree with you that women are less likely that men to work slower with sex, or at least that is what society thinks. But society also thinks that an “overly protected child” let loose in the world tends to go overboard. Society also thinks that people meeting sudden fame and fortune also go overboard. And, imo, there is an argument that you can go overboard with your first love, especially if they continue to meet or exceed your romantic expectations.

Perhaps the lead in to this section of the VN could be better - like have that “touchstone” character for D to check or question her behavior. Maybe a rework here or there of the dialogue.

Btw, the first person on this upward arc that even questioned her is that new model.

Look man, I get what you're trying to say, but that's not what I get from her behavior in the previous chapters. For me the way she fought to be with her "daddy", how she can't get enough of him, the fact that he is her very first love (with their relationship being in a very early stage) and how she's willing to do anything to please him, can't lead to her wanting to fuck other men. Plain and simple. To let loose doesn't mean to have the compulsion to fuck anyone with a pulse, just because he is funny or black. Unless you want to turn her into a slut for "reasons" which is a completely different story. Like I said, that's just my opinion, I appreciate the feedback, but you don't have to try and convince me otherwise. I'll still follow the game, avoiding the paths that don't make sense for me, but after that last update it will be very difficult for me to support any of MrDots current or future endeavours. I really appreciate the effort that's been put in this game and Melody, but I can't support someone who has the main girl passed around like nothing. It's just not my thing. I'm sure it make sense for the writters, but I just don't see it. I don't know. I might be getting too old or something.

 

[Mormont]

Look man, I get what you're trying to say, but that's not what I get from her behavior in the previous chapters. For me the way she fought to be with her "daddy", how she can't get enough of him, the fact that he is her very first love (with their relationship being in a very early stage) and how she's willing to do anything to please him, can't lead to her wanting to fuck other men. Plain and simple. To let loose doesn't mean to have the compulsion to fuck anyone with a pulse, just because he is funny or black. Unless you want to turn her into a slut for "reasons" which is a completely different story. Like I said, that's just my opinion, I appreciate the feedback, but you don't have to try and convince me otherwise. I'll still follow the game, avoiding the paths that don't make sense for me, but after that last update it will be very difficult for me to support any of MrDots current or future endeavours. I really appreciate the effort that's been put in this game and Melody, but I can't support someone who has the main girl passed around like nothing. It's just not my thing. I'm sure it make sense for the writters, but I just don't see it. I don't know. I might be getting too old or something.

The first love part being the crucial here and she is pretty much besotted with the MC and I'd say the MC with her they are exploring each other and their desires, and I get that the sharing part was always meant to be a part of the game and with Martin reappearing soon I kind of think it's just a bit sudden and out of the blue.

 

[roadie1960]

I think eddie987 has a point there but if you do multiple paths daddy isn`t very faithfull to his beloved daughter. I mean if you follow that path it should be possible for the daughter to explore other options aswell. What i find disturbing is that it comes out of the blue, i think that it would be more convincing if she were to find out that the love of her life is cheating on her.

 

[VixxTheLover]

A daughter having sex with her own father is not normative sexual behavior. The more sexually abnormal the environment for a woman, especially a young woman, the farther down the rabbit hole she tends to end up.

D started with fooling around with her dad and then in a lesbian relationship with her friend. She ends up having unprotected sex with her dad, with rimming, getting fingered in the ass, public sex, and performing oral sex on another woman.

There is an old saying that if a woman says yes to being recorded on video during sex she doesn’t say no to much else, I would suggest that this story represents an accelerating corruption of D, that her dad may be leading her to hyper sexuality.

The thing is that sex feels good. When you start having it you want to have more of it, most of us have experienced this. For D, as she happily swallows cum, rims her dad and eats pussy, it probably tastes good to her as well.

What are we to think would be too much? Having her father’s child? Fucking other men? Given her character arc there isn’t anyone in the story there might not be anyone in the game that you couldn’t explain her having sex with if it goes far enough.

 

[Creeping Death]

Quite a narrow minded view many guys have about the sexuality of women. They have desires and urges like males, otherwise the cheating numbers of women in relationships would be zero. Guess what, they are not. First love, loving relationship, who cares, you see someone or meet someone, and somehow there is sexual interesst. Some follow this and cheat, some deny it. Male/Female doesn't matter. So it is perfectly okay that D sees some things she never tried before (like many dudes in a porn forum I would bet lol) and tries it. With consence of her friend or not, that's my decision how I like to play her

 

[Mormont]

That's if we cheat on her of course, I've never really had much of an interest in the other girls apart from D and Georgina as well but she hasn't had as much content as I'd have liked so I've pretty much stayed faithful to D despite those other temptations.

 

[Ed B]

Mate you got proven wrong- you need to realize the tags on this site do not reflect what MrDots put on his Patreon page when the game came out
Discussion about the subject at hand:
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Lots more discussion about it if you care to go back and read

After the announcement of CH 3 MrDots wrote he was going to finally introduce the "Pet Arc" you know what it means"

If he follows through with it is still up in the air

You've proven nothing other than it was talked about on here. If it would of been a tag originally on Patreon, I wouldn't of been donating. I've also been part of this thread from the first release so I've read it all before. From the 2nd update and STILL going, it keeps always being brought up and it's still not there. If the Pet Arc is brought in then it's up to the players which way they want it to go but so far there is nothing

 

[eddie987]

I think eddie987 has a point there but if you do multiple paths daddy isn`t very faithfull to his beloved daughter. I mean if you follow that path it should be possible for the daughter to explore other options aswell. What i find disturbing is that it comes out of the blue, i think that it would be more convincing if she were to find out that the love of her life is cheating on her.

There's a huge difference between cheating because she felt betrayed (Still out of character IMO. It would be more likely to leave the MC and go live with Elena who is her closest friend or even Jennifer since she has her own place, than just start fucking around with other dudes WITH the MC. Don't forget, that we are talking about sharing and not cucking, so it's more of a MMF approach than D just banging other guys) and to want to fuck a dude she barely knows, because she found interracial porn interesting and he happens to be black... And all that while being in a "loving" relationship, incestual or not.

 

[Casual Observer]

There's a huge difference between cheating because she felt betrayed (Still out of character IMO. It would be more likely to leave the MC and go live with Elena who is her closest friend or even Jennifer since she has her own place, than just start fucking around with other dudes WITH the MC. Don't forget, that we are talking about sharing and not cucking, so it's more of a MMF approach than D just banging other guys) and to want to fuck a dude she barely knows, because she found interracial porn interesting and he happens to be black... And all that while being in a "loving" relationship, incestual or not.

Part of the thing with the D and Martin that bothers me as completely uncharacteristic is the way they had her interrupt her F and talk to Martin directly about her independence and then how she interrupts F and Martins phone call to not ask but tell the F to invite Martin to stay over at the house. It's the fact that she seems to be pursuing an outcome that strikes me as uncharacteristic and forced. It, as you pointed out, is not explained by the story line and is a direct betrayal of her feelings and goals for her relationship with the MC. They could have (imo should have) done this in a way that made her character consistent and had her been coerced into the goal rather than actively arranging it. It doesn't pass the smell test despite some other posters rationalizations imo.

 

[RustyV]

I downloaded DMD V24 and unzipped it. When I load the end of Day 32, it just says You've reached the end of this version and can't go any further.

Not for nothing but I found if I save a scene before the end of an update I don't seem to have this issue with new updates. Sort of a running start into the new update.

 

[VixxTheLover]

There's a huge difference between cheating because she felt betrayed (Still out of character IMO. It would be more likely to leave the MC and go live with Elena who is her closest friend or even Jennifer since she has her own place, than just start fucking around with other dudes WITH the MC. Don't forget, that we are talking about sharing and not cucking, so it's more of a MMF approach than D just banging other guys) and to want to fuck a dude she barely knows, because she found interracial porn interesting and he happens to be black... And all that while being in a "loving" relationship, incestual or not.

The game permits the MC to fuck almost every woman he meets, most before his daughter, and unprotected. It’s a game, I’m fine with that, but the game mechanics do not require the MC to have anything more than a little interest to have his cock in almost anyone he wants.

The female lead is written very differently. She can be with other women and people don’t bat an eye, but god help us if she wants to touch another dick.

Her dad is winding the fuck out of her sexual motor, fucking her so often she might develop the physical and emotional need for the feeling of it. And in time he would not be able to completely satisfy her.

Granted it depends on how you play, but if you play the sharing route, and the MC has helped her into public nudity and showing off her beauty, and had some sharing experiences with her, this would almost certainly lead to escalation in her desires.

To be blunt it is why porn has escalated over the years, from vanilla to facials to swallowing, to anal, threesomes and group sex. Now every female pornstar is expected to appear to enjoy lesbian sex and cum in her mouth.

Now what do we see on page one of Pornhub? Incest, bukkake, humiliation and cuckolding.

I have known couples who delved into watching porn together and swinging, and it can lead to damaging escalation.


Beyond that I have been in three ways, and the guys I was with at the time would have odd hang ups.

One asked for a threesome, but thought it would only be with another girl and wanted to pick the girl, and it was a girl from work he wanted to fuck with permission. He didn’t want me to bring a friend in, he didn’t just want to have two girls, he had a girl in mind when he asked.

I learned from that, and when a later boyfriend asked for a similar thing, and wanted to pick the girl, I insisted that I got to have two men, and I got to choose the guy. He was angry, telling me I just wanted to fuck another guy, being a hypocritical asshat.

My point is this: How I play the game, as a woman, I see the needs that D has more than her dad. Her dad gets to have quite a few lovers and threesomes involving his daughter.

I would prefer she be able to explore her own needs if the player is on the sharing path. I don’t think she would ever cuckold or humiliate her father, but I could see her wanting to be able to play on the side as she knows her dad does.

So Martín? Why not, but not because he is black, although that is a kink a lot of white women have tbh.

The photographer? Why not, if she ends up doing nude modeling, that can end up being quite erotic, a very sexually charged environment.

Any why wouldn’t she pursue other men? On the sharing path her dad seems to enjoy pursuing other women.

 

[Mormont]

Any why wouldn’t she pursue other men? On the sharing path her dad seems to enjoy pursuing other women.

Have you played the latest update? and have you seen how many times she tells the MC that she loves him? why would she want to pursue other men when she is pretty much infatuated with the MC.