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IMO the D+Martin coupling seems fast tracked because of a lack of D and Martin interaction. This issue could have been mollified by putting D into at least one situation where she interacted with Martin one-on-one. Martin could have called to speak to the MC, the MC is taking a shower (*one of the few ones without D) and D answers his phone. As D and Martin chat they click a little more, he mildly flirts and the seed for sex is planted. Maybe then when Martin calls to announce his trip to Seaside D could have asked to talk with him and they mildly flirt some more even with the MC present. Not Charles Dickens writing but it adds credence to D being tempted to have sex with Martin.
 
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Have you played the latest update? and have you seen how many times she tells the MC that she loves him? why would she want to pursue other men when she is pretty much infatuated with the MC.
Not to mention that the game design in no way leaves her sexually deficient. She has a multitude of experiences and pending options so arguing that somehow she's just so over sexed that she needs to explore new options on her own seems ridiculous, especially within the time frame and at the place they seem to be in their pursuit of a life together as a couple. The D has expressed levels of attraction to males previously but never pursued any of them simply because the MC was satisfying her sexually and emotionally. It doesn't add up, really.
 
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IMO the D+Martin coupling seems fast tracked because of a lack of D and Martin interaction. This issue could have been mollified by putting D into at least one situation where she interacted with Martin one-on-one. Martin could have called to speak to the MC, the MC is taking a shower (*one of the few ones without D) and D answers his phone. As D and Martin chat they click a little more, he mildly flirts and the seed for sex is planted. Maybe then when Martin calls to announce his trip to Seaside D could have asked to talk with him and they mildly flirt some more even with the MC present. Not Charles Dickens writing but it adds credence to D being tempted to have sex with Martin.
This is part of my issue, there is literally zero rationalization of her pursuit of this and even if it had context in the plot it still wouldn't make sense for it to actually occur unless there was some coercion by the MC. As written they can't even properly validate the attraction and even if they did it still wouldn't amount to anything but a point of emotional angst for the D and unless the MC validated it would never be pursued, let alone acted upon in any circumstance.
 

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Have you played the latest update? and have you seen how many times she tells the MC that she loves him? why would she want to pursue other men when she is pretty much infatuated with the MC.
How many times has the dad said how much he loves her? Why would he want to pursue other women if he is so in love with her?

On the sharing path he can and does fuck other women. If he can she has no reason not to feel the same sexual urges.

If players do not make the sharing choices and cheat on D, then the game wouldn’t give her the cheating options either.
 

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The game permits the MC to fuck almost every woman he meets, most before his daughter, and unprotected. It’s a game, I’m fine with that, but the game mechanics do not require the MC to have anything more than a little interest to have his cock in almost anyone he wants.

The female lead is written very differently. She can be with other women and people don’t bat an eye, but god help us if she wants to touch another dick.

Her dad is winding the fuck out of her sexual motor, fucking her so often she might develop the physical and emotional need for the feeling of it. And in time he would not be able to completely satisfy her.

Granted it depends on how you play, but if you play the sharing route, and the MC has helped her into public nudity and showing off her beauty, and had some sharing experiences with her, this would almost certainly lead to escalation in her desires.

To be blunt it is why porn has escalated over the years, from vanilla to facials to swallowing, to anal, threesomes and group sex. Now every female pornstar is expected to appear to enjoy lesbian sex and cum in her mouth.

Now what do we see on page one of Pornhub? Incest, bukkake, humiliation and cuckolding.

I have known couples who delved into watching porn together and swinging, and it can lead to damaging escalation.


Beyond that I have been in three ways, and the guys I was with at the time would have odd hang ups.

One asked for a threesome, but thought it would only be with another girl and wanted to pick the girl, and it was a girl from work he wanted to fuck with permission. He didn’t want me to bring a friend in, he didn’t just want to have two girls, he had a girl in mind when he asked.

I learned from that, and when a later boyfriend asked for a similar thing, and wanted to pick the girl, I insisted that I got to have two men, and I got to choose the guy. He was angry, telling me I just wanted to fuck another guy, being a hypocritical asshat.

My point is this: How I play the game, as a woman, I see the needs that D has more than her dad. Her dad gets to have quite a few lovers and threesomes involving his daughter.

I would prefer she be able to explore her own needs if the player is on the sharing path. I don’t think she would ever cuckold or humiliate her father, but I could see her wanting to be able to play on the side as she knows her dad does.

So Martín? Why not, but not because he is black, although that is a kink a lot of white women have tbh.

The photographer? Why not, if she ends up doing nude modeling, that can end up being quite erotic, a very sexually charged environment.

Any why wouldn’t she pursue other men? On the sharing path her dad seems to enjoy pursuing other women.
The thing is that you can play the game with the MC not touching any other woman except for her and still get the sharing paths with the guys. So the guy can be completely loyal and she still wants other cocks only after a couple of months in their relationship. If you choose to play the game as a "fuck everything simulator" doesn't mean that it makes more sense. If you cheat on someone it doesn't mean that she'll ask to fuck every guy you know with your blessing and participation. I get what you're saying about your personal experiences and that's why I never asked any of my ex's for a threesome. I wouldn't ask to fuck a certain girl like you said, but there's no way I'd be ok with a second dude, so it'd still be hypocritical. But that doesn't have anything to do with way the characters have progressed in this game. I can see why a woman playing it would want multiple male partners and I can see why someone who sees this game as jerk off material would want to see everyone fucking each other, but like I said many times, for me it doesn't make sense. Not because I am a greedy bastard who doesn't like sharing (which I definitely am), but because of what I've seen from the characters so far.
 
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The game permits the MC to fuck almost every woman he meets, most before his daughter, and unprotected. It’s a game, I’m fine with that, but the game mechanics do not require the MC to have anything more than a little interest to have his cock in almost anyone he wants.

The female lead is written very differently. She can be with other women and people don’t bat an eye, but god help us if she wants to touch another dick.

Her dad is winding the fuck out of her sexual motor, fucking her so often she might develop the physical and emotional need for the feeling of it. And in time he would not be able to completely satisfy her.

Granted it depends on how you play, but if you play the sharing route, and the MC has helped her into public nudity and showing off her beauty, and had some sharing experiences with her, this would almost certainly lead to escalation in her desires.

To be blunt it is why porn has escalated over the years, from vanilla to facials to swallowing, to anal, threesomes and group sex. Now every female pornstar is expected to appear to enjoy lesbian sex and cum in her mouth.

Now what do we see on page one of Pornhub? Incest, bukkake, humiliation and cuckolding.

I have known couples who delved into watching porn together and swinging, and it can lead to damaging escalation.


Beyond that I have been in three ways, and the guys I was with at the time would have odd hang ups.

One asked for a threesome, but thought it would only be with another girl and wanted to pick the girl, and it was a girl from work he wanted to fuck with permission. He didn’t want me to bring a friend in, he didn’t just want to have two girls, he had a girl in mind when he asked.

I learned from that, and when a later boyfriend asked for a similar thing, and wanted to pick the girl, I insisted that I got to have two men, and I got to choose the guy. He was angry, telling me I just wanted to fuck another guy, being a hypocritical asshat.

My point is this: How I play the game, as a woman, I see the needs that D has more than her dad. Her dad gets to have quite a few lovers and threesomes involving his daughter.

I would prefer she be able to explore her own needs if the player is on the sharing path. I don’t think she would ever cuckold or humiliate her father, but I could see her wanting to be able to play on the side as she knows her dad does.

So Martín? Why not, but not because he is black, although that is a kink a lot of white women have tbh.

The photographer? Why not, if she ends up doing nude modeling, that can end up being quite erotic, a very sexually charged environment.

Any why wouldn’t she pursue other men? On the sharing path her dad seems to enjoy pursuing other women.
Two observations from your very well thought out reply.

One I have dated a 19 year old girl (who ironically was a shorter stacked blond) and young women don't appear to need encouragement to want sex. The down fall comes when the initial thrill of new sex has run it's course and you find yourself with a young woman with whom you have little generational commonalities.

Two for D her sexual awakening is an All Summer in a Day event. She was so repressed by her fucked up mother now that she is free and with a parent who encourages her (some for his own benefit) she is like an alcoholic in a brewerey.

And as a guy if your boyfriend had a girl in mind for a MFF he at some level (maybe subconsciously) wanted to fuck her without you being able to be angry. It's important for the girlfriend to pick a girl with whom she's both feels comfortable and is attracted to, as long as the guy has veto power.
 

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How many times has the dad said how much he loves her? Why would he want to pursue other women if he is so in love with her?

On the sharing path he can and does fuck other women. If he can she has no reason not to feel the same sexual urges.

If players do not make the sharing choices and cheat on D, then the game wouldn’t give her the cheating options either.
It's his daughter, of course, he is going to love her I haven't cheated on her but maybe for others, they just want to see her as the daughter and nothing more while pursuing other women but then again that would defeat the whole purpose of the game title :p
 
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How many times has the dad said how much he loves her? Why would he want to pursue other women if he is so in love with her?

On the sharing path he can and does fuck other women. If he can she has no reason not to feel the same sexual urges.

If players do not make the sharing choices and cheat on D, then the game wouldn’t give her the cheating options either.
If the game was Dating my Dad then having the D independently expand her horizons would be in context. Since this game is designed from the PoV of the MC then that isn't in line with the implied purpose or the way they have developed the D character. I understand that that may be what you'd like to see from a female PoV but I would argue that it isn't consistent with the way this game plot has developed. That should be a whole other game imo.
 

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It's his daughter, of course, he is going to love her I haven't cheated on her but maybe for others, they just want to see her as the daughter and nothing more while pursuing other women but then again that would defeat the whole purpose of the game title :p
I have no objection to that. If you don’t cheat on her, and you don’t go down the sharing path then she absolutely could be as devoted to you as you are to her.

But if players want to fuck everything they can, and go down the sharing path, then let them.

it would be choice based. If you want to share her and see her with other men then have a party. But these harem games wear on me.

Man of the House has the MC have sex with his mom, his sisters, his aunt, and like ten other women around town, but the game maker decided it would be that way. Only the MC and everyone else. Most of the girls are bisexual, but other women is all they get.

Parental love is the same way, the wife, the two daughters, the sister and another young woman, all just for the MC, and the girls are all bisexual.

I would just love to see a game allow for a female character to explore her own needs, like some of the LOP Gold games do.
 
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I have no objection to that. If you don’t cheat on her, and you don’t go down the sharing path then she absolutely could be as devoted to you as you are to her.

But if players want to fuck everything they can, and go down the sharing path, then let them.

it would be choice based. If you want to share her and see her with other men then have a party. But these harem games wear on me.

Man of the House has the MC have sex with his mom, his sisters, his aunt, and like ten other women around town, but the game maker decided it would be that way. Only the MC and everyone else. Most of the girls are bisexual, but other women is all they get.

Parental love is the same way, the wife, the two daughters, the sister and another young woman, all just for the MC, and the girls are all bisexual.

I would just love to see a game allow for a female character to explore her own needs, like some of the LOP Gold games do.
Honestly considering the dev is planning on wrapping up this saga, imo, they should consider developing a sandbox version of this game where you could develop your own story to some extent. It would be basically a virtual dollhouse but I can about guarantee that they would be able to monetize it to the people who are compelled by the characters. I doubt the way this has panned out is best case scenario for anyone and I also doubt that anyone that follows this game will want it to end.
 

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I would just love to see a game allow for a female character to explore her own needs, like some of the LOP Gold games do.
I think that only works for strictly Female MC games and NTR only games I get where you are coming from, but a lot of people would be put off with that playing as a male MC I don't fancy the idea of a romantic partner going off to explore her needs only interested in that when it's with the MC only.
 

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I have no objection to that. If you don’t cheat on her, and you don’t go down the sharing path then she absolutely could be as devoted to you as you are to her.

But if players want to fuck everything they can, and go down the sharing path, then let them.

it would be choice based. If you want to share her and see her with other men then have a party. But these harem games wear on me.

Man of the House has the MC have sex with his mom, his sisters, his aunt, and like ten other women around town, but the game maker decided it would be that way. Only the MC and everyone else. Most of the girls are bisexual, but other women is all they get.

Parental love is the same way, the wife, the two daughters, the sister and another young woman, all just for the MC, and the girls are all bisexual.

I would just love to see a game allow for a female character to explore her own needs, like some of the LOP Gold games do.
All those are "male protagonist" games. I'm sure there are some good games with a female MC. You'll definitely find a lot of them where the MC is just dumb and gets exploited or blackmailed, but there should be some games with a decent plot.
 

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All those are "male protagonist" games. I'm sure there are some good games with a female MC. You'll definitely find a lot of them where the MC is just dumb and gets exploited or blackmailed, but there should be some games with a decent plot.
If I had any idea how to make a game I would write one with a female MC working as a stripper, with the many temptations and choices to be made.

Drugs or no drugs, prostitution or not, fuck the manager for a good shift or not, suck the DJ off or not, try to date or become a jaded man-hating bitch.
 
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If I had any idea how to make a game I would write one with a female MC working as a stripper, with the many temptations and choices to be made.

Drugs or no drugs, prostitution or not, fuck the manager for a good shift or not, suck the DJ off or not, try to date or become a jaded man-hating bitch.
Somebody mentioned some game called sugar daddies earlier in this thread that would seem like it might fit your criteria, but I know nothing about the game, myself. Might be worth a look for you.
 
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Two observations from your very well thought out reply.

One I have dated a 19 year old girl (who ironically was a shorter stacked blond) and young women don't appear to need encouragement to want sex. The down fall comes when the initial thrill of new sex has run it's course and you find yourself with a young woman with whom you have little generational commonalities.

Two for D her sexual awakening is an All Summer in a Day event. She was so repressed by her fucked up mother now that she is free and with a parent who encourages her (some for his own benefit) she is like an alcoholic in a brewerey.

And as a guy if your boyfriend had a girl in mind for a MFF he at some level (maybe subconsciously) wanted to fuck her without you being able to be angry. It's important for the girlfriend to pick a girl with whom she's both feels comfortable and is attracted to, as long as the guy has veto power.
Thanks for that reply, and for being honest about it.

Frankly threesomes just don’t work in my experience unless nobody is romantically attached, and that doesn’t just happen on accident.

If I were to pick another girl, (and I did in the past) it has a better chance not to cause a fight. The worst I saw was my guy seeming more interested in her, which would bother anyone.

With two guys at the same time it isn’t porn, it just doesn’t ever work. And for that reason I would rather that D explore other men where her dad can watch, but not as a threesome.

If you were tag teaming a girl you liked and you came first, you might have serious problems when you see the sex keeps going without you, and your girl is enjoying it.

If the other guy finishes first, I think you might just lose your erection, knowing what just happened. Self doubt, jealousy and knowing your girl has cum in her mouth are bad for the mood during sex.

But then these are games and it can work.
 

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If I had any idea how to make a game I would write one with a female MC working as a stripper, with the many temptations and choices to be made.

Drugs or no drugs, prostitution or not, fuck the manager for a good shift or not, suck the DJ off or not, try to date or become a jaded man-hating bitch.
If you are really interested, ren'py isn't that difficult to learn (the basic stuff at least) and there are a lot of tutorials that can help you out. The renders are a different story though... I tried out DAZ at some point, but it seems way too time consuming for my taste. That's why a lot of people are using honey select or koikatu.
 

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Look man, I get what you're trying to say, but that's not what I get from her behavior in the previous chapters. For me the way she fought to be with her "daddy", how she can't get enough of him, the fact that he is her very first love (with their relationship being in a very early stage) and how she's willing to do anything to please him, can't lead to her wanting to fuck other men. Plain and simple. To let loose doesn't mean to have the compulsion to fuck anyone with a pulse, just because he is funny or black. Unless you want to turn her into a slut for "reasons" which is a completely different story. Like I said, that's just my opinion, I appreciate the feedback, but you don't have to try and convince me otherwise. I'll still follow the game, avoiding the paths that don't make sense for me, but after that last update it will be very difficult for me to support any of MrDots current or future endeavours. I really appreciate the effort that's been put in this game and Melody, but I can't support someone who has the main girl passed around like nothing. It's just not my thing. I'm sure it make sense for the writters, but I just don't see it. I don't know. I might be getting too old or something.
Why you play that route if you don't like it?Who force you to share D with other men?
 

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Why you play that route if you don't like it?Who force you to share D with other men?
I won't play any path were you share D with guys. I'm just saying they seem rushed or even forced to me. The fact that you can play the whole game with just the MC and D and then suddenly she wants to fuck other guys for "reasons" doesn't make any sense with everything happened before. I know you can ignore them, but like I said you can play the game as a "loyal" MC and still go to these paths because she watched interracial porn or a photographer took a topless picture of her, where he wasn't suppose to actually see her topless.
 
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