VN Ren'Py Completed Dating My Daughter [Ch. 1-4 v1.01] [MrDots Games]

[Dat Guy]

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[Jeff Steel]

Part of the thing with the D and Martin that bothers me as completely uncharacteristic is the way they had her interrupt her F and talk to Martin directly about her independence and then how she interrupts F and Martins phone call to not ask but tell the F to invite Martin to stay over at the house. It's the fact that she seems to be pursuing an outcome that strikes me as uncharacteristic and forced. It, as you pointed out, is not explained by the story line and is a direct betrayal of her feelings and goals for her relationship with the MC. They could have (imo should have) done this in a way that made her character consistent and had her been coerced into the goal rather than actively arranging it. It doesn't pass the smell test despite some other posters rationalizations imo.

As far as D is aware, the years they were separated, F had the job and only one friend, as far as she knows. I wouldn’t read any nefariousness in D on this issue.

 

[cxx]

end of 0.23 save?

you didn't specify on what path aka incl. elena or not so here's both (1st has elena incl. 2nd no elena).

 

[eddie987]

As far as D is aware, the years they were separated, F had the job and only one friend, as far as she knows. I wouldn’t read any nefariousness in D on this issue.

And she wants to fuck his only friend? That's what I call pure love...

 

[VixxTheLover]

And she wants to fuck his only friend? That's what I call pure love...

D is showing attraction, that doesn’t mean she intends to fuck him. And she is young, life hasn’t taught her the perils of playing with people’s feelings yet. Which is why a relationship between a middle aged man and a eighteen year old virgin would be unlikely to last.

She would know he mom cheated, and she knew her dad had been with another woman, on some play throughs a lot of women.

it isn’t like she has been taught the value of monogamy in this game

 

[Tholio]

I think the jealousy adds to the taboo nature of watching someone with another person, it is why cuckold porn is so popular with married men.

And this is utterly annoying to see it everywhere (not only on porn sites), as if it was the new normal way of enjoying sex. That's why every erotic/porn website should have a keyword blacklist system.
See, I am a protective and dedicated kind of man - not possessive, to be clear. That idea of voluntarily being a cuck, to experience jealousy, is out of question because that's a concept I just cannot process. It goes against who I am, deep down, and I find it pathetic to the highest degree.
A state of mind that led to some serious arguments here and there, I admit.

 

[eddie987]

D is showing attraction, that doesn’t mean she intends to fuck him. And she is young, life hasn’t taught her the perils of playing with people’s feelings yet. Which is why a relationship between a middle aged man and a eighteen year old virgin would be unlikely to last.

She would know he mom cheated, and she knew her dad had been with another woman, on some play throughs a lot of women.

it isn’t like she has been taught the value of monogamy in this game

Come on now. We all know the game has a share with Martin path. It's the worst time being single. I need to find me a gf ASAP, date her for a couple of months, be all lovey dovey 24/7 and then tell her that I want to bang her best friend! I'm sure it will work out just fine...

 

[Jeff Steel]

The game permits the MC to fuck almost every woman he meets, most before his daughter, and unprotected. It’s a game, I’m fine with that, but the game mechanics do not require the MC to have anything more than a little interest to have his cock in almost anyone he wants.

The female lead is written very differently. She can be with other women and people don’t bat an eye, but god help us if she wants to touch another dick.

Her dad is winding the fuck out of her sexual motor, fucking her so often she might develop the physical and emotional need for the feeling of it. And in time he would not be able to completely satisfy her.

Granted it depends on how you play, but if you play the sharing route, and the MC has helped her into public nudity and showing off her beauty, and had some sharing experiences with her, this would almost certainly lead to escalation in her desires.

To be blunt it is why porn has escalated over the years, from vanilla to facials to swallowing, to anal, threesomes and group sex. Now every female pornstar is expected to appear to enjoy lesbian sex and cum in her mouth.

Now what do we see on page one of Pornhub? Incest, bukkake, humiliation and cuckolding.

I have known couples who delved into watching porn together and swinging, and it can lead to damaging escalation.


Beyond that I have been in three ways, and the guys I was with at the time would have odd hang ups.

One asked for a threesome, but thought it would only be with another girl and wanted to pick the girl, and it was a girl from work he wanted to fuck with permission. He didn’t want me to bring a friend in, he didn’t just want to have two girls, he had a girl in mind when he asked.

I learned from that, and when a later boyfriend asked for a similar thing, and wanted to pick the girl, I insisted that I got to have two men, and I got to choose the guy. He was angry, telling me I just wanted to fuck another guy, being a hypocritical asshat.

My point is this: How I play the game, as a woman, I see the needs that D has more than her dad. Her dad gets to have quite a few lovers and threesomes involving his daughter.

I would prefer she be able to explore her own needs if the player is on the sharing path. I don’t think she would ever cuckold or humiliate her father, but I could see her wanting to be able to play on the side as she knows her dad does.

So Martín? Why not, but not because he is black, although that is a kink a lot of white women have tbh.

The photographer? Why not, if she ends up doing nude modeling, that can end up being quite erotic, a very sexually charged environment.

Any why wouldn’t she pursue other men? On the sharing path her dad seems to enjoy pursuing other women.

I applaud your insight and input. There is nothing out there that says that women D can’t have the same urges to be with someone else that F has. I think there are cultural biases when we label men as “players” in a positive sense and women as “sluts” in a negative sense. Obviously, from the bulk of Patreon and F95Zone projects, the general public wants to see dudes with a lot of female options - that’s a primary draw or appeal.

If you take writings on sexuality such as “The Ethical Slut” ...

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...or listen to podcasts like “Sex with Emily” ... which is on Spotify btw ...

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... then you get that there are all sorts of things we take for granted with men that are true for women.

The sharing path has always been not for everyone, and it was not going to be a “9 1/2 Weeks” path where the male lead in essence controlled everything. In fact, in every path we’ve tried to continue to make D an active agent in her future, both sexually and emotionally. This includes admitting and taking some action on a guy she likes.

I guess what I mean is the sharing path is neither an NTR/cuckold path, nor is it F orchestrating who D will or not sleep with. It is a couple where both F/D know the other likes others sexually, and they get joy (compersion).

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[Jeff Steel]

This game has three paths:

You can play the single couple D/F experience, which very few lengthy games on these platforms do. In fact, as I’m sure people have notices, specific sexual events and dialogues are D/F only that you only see on this path.

Then you can play the one-male multiple-female harem path which is the most common games on the platforms.

Finally, you can play a sharing path which is rarely or ever offered as a path in the games on f95zone and Patreon. [At least I have not seen a similar game path out there similar to this - and I don’t include NTR or cheating, because that is not what we are doing.]

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As for what VixxTheLover says about jealousy, I am a big fan of that in fiction. Some of the best RomComs have two equally matched men vying for the same woman. In Romantic Dramas, what better way to ratchet up the tension than to have the risk of losing your love interest to the antagonist.

DMD will never have a path where D does not consider F to be her partner for life. It’s going to be a fairy tale ending between the two, whichever path they take.

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As for the speed at which we are doing this - not ideal.

MFF with Elena seems no problem because of then “handsy friendship” D and Elena have had over the years.

Georgina has had a little “grooming” (not fond of that word ... but it works)

Olivia/Morgan Graham/Ryan have their own lead-ins.

Martin is another story. I think it’s a mistake to make it into a bbc fascination, and call it a day. With Ryan, we scripted in the “let me protect my model from assholes” but to move the relationship along. How we will work in Martin, I’m not yet sure, but we’ll give it the old college try.

 

[slackster]

Have you played the latest update? and have you seen how many times she tells the MC that she loves him? why would she want to pursue other men when she is pretty much infatuated with the MC.

Because sex and love don't have to go together

 

[VM356255]

This game has three paths:

You can play the single couple D/F experience, which very few lengthy games on these platforms do. In fact, as I’m sure people have notices, specific sexual events and dialogues are D/F only that you only see on this path.

Then you can play the one-male multiple-female harem path which is the most common games on the platforms.

Finally, you can play a sharing path which is rarely or ever offered as a path in the games on f95zone and Patreon. [At least I have not seen a similar game path out there similar to this - and I don’t include NTR or cheating, because that is not what we are doing.]

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As for what VixxTheLover says about jealousy, I am a big fan of that in fiction. Some of the best RomComs have two equally matched men vying for the same woman. In Romantic Dramas, what better way to ratchet up the tension than to have the risk of losing your love interest to the antagonist.

DMD will never have a path where D does not consider F to be her partner for life. It’s going to be a fairy tale ending between the two, whichever path they take.

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As for the speed at which we are doing this - not ideal.

MFF with Elena seems no problem because of then “handsy friendship” D and Elena have had over the years.

Georgina has had a little “grooming” (not fond of that word ... but it works)

Olivia/Morgan Graham/Ryan have their own lead-ins.

Martin is another story. I think it’s a mistake to make it into a bbc fascination, and call it a day. With Ryan, we scripted in the “let me protect my model from assholes” but to move the relationship along. How we will work in Martin, I’m not yet sure, but we’ll give it the old college try.

Cheering here so that you can do something well with Martin and the others,
It will be bitter, but I want to see D with other guys, always along with F of course.
But deep down I would like,
that after D try other men,
Tell F that she doesn't want others anymore, that he's the only man for her who has done for the moment or to please him.

 

[Casual Observer]

As far as D is aware, the years they were separated, F had the job and only one friend, as far as she knows. I wouldn’t read any nefariousness in D on this issue.

It's hard not to since the behavior in those circumstances is outside her characters typical behavior. It seems like you're forcing a behavior to get an outcome that isn't really justified in the story line.

 

[Casual Observer]

D is showing attraction, that doesn’t mean she intends to fuck him. And she is young, life hasn’t taught her the perils of playing with people’s feelings yet. Which is why a relationship between a middle aged man and a eighteen year old virgin would be unlikely to last.

She would know he mom cheated, and she knew her dad had been with another woman, on some play throughs a lot of women.

it isn’t like she has been taught the value of monogamy in this game

I think it seems like you are projecting things onto the D character which aren't supported by the story and then using your curated version of real world human interactions to rationalize why you should get an outcome that you prefer. We all want an outcome we prefer but imo the story has to make sense as told not rationalized by circumstances you think are typical outside the game world.

 

[Mormont]

Because sex and love don't have to go together

Oh, I'm well aware of that. But the MC and D seem pretty loved up so it does apply here depending on the route of the player of course.

 

[VixxTheLover]

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I think it seems like you are projecting things onto the D character which aren't supported by the story and then using your curated version of real world human interactions to rationalize why you should get an outcome that you prefer. We all want an outcome we prefer but imo the story has to make sense as told not rationalized by circumstances you think are typical outside the game world.

We all do that, it is why we choose the games we play here.

We all want an outcome we prefer, I just want a different one than you do, but I believe that the outcome I prefer can be optional where you need not see it, and which is both defensible in how the characters are written and would not detract from the outcome you prefer.

Would it bother you so much to have an outcome exist that empowers D just a little bit, to expand to being able to have her own needs and desires? To feel the urge to experiment?

I am not calling for your outcome to not exist, I just have something else I would like to see.

D can be a deeper character with more power and control over her own choices without harming anyone

 

[slackster]

But the MC and D seem pretty loved up so it does apply here depending on the route of the player of course.

As has been mentioned in in game dialog and by the writers D & F having sex with others is just for fun because that's what they both want

 

[eddie987]

We all do that, it is why we choose the games we play here.

We all want an outcome we prefer, I just want a different one than you do, but I believe that the outcome I prefer can be optional where you need not see it, and which is both defensible in how the characters are written and would not detract from the outcome you prefer.

Would it bother you so much to have an outcome exist that empowers D just a little bit, to expand to being able to have her own needs and desires? To feel the urge to experiment?

I am not calling for your outcome to not exist, I just have something else I would like to see.

D can be a deeper character with more power and control over her own choices without harming anyone

I don't get why the empowerement has to be through fucking other men, besides the one she's dating. If a woman is happy with just her man and she doesn't want to fuck anyone else, she is powerless? I'm not trying to diss what you're saying, I honestly don't get why a woman's empowerement has to be connected with her sex life and the number of her sexual partners. The point is to take life in her hands not turn into a cock-hungry slut who would fuck anyone just "for fun". It possible has something to do with the fact that a man who is doing the same thing is called a player or some bullshit like that, but that doesn't apply in the real world. Not where I come from at least. I have no respect for men who think that sleeping with as many women as possible is something to be proud of. I have a friend who had a clicker thingy, to count the women he slept with. The rest of us used to make fun of him, and he eventually "grew up". I think porn has really messed up people perception about a normal/healthy sex life. Sorry for rumbling. I'm not talking about you personally, I understand what you're trying to say, you just mentioned D's empowerement and it got me thinking all this bullshit I just wrote...

 

[Ed B]

Somebody mentioned some game called sugar daddies earlier in this thread that would seem like it might fit your criteria, but I know nothing about the game, myself. Might be worth a look for you.

I mentioned it but haven't played it. From what I've read though....D is still faithful only to F and Georgina is one that tells D that F has been sleeping with everyone else so she leaves him. Remember though...It's not a Mr. Dots game and I'm not even sure if Mr. Dots is allowing Dev to use the characters or continue a story line with them

 

[VixxTheLover]

Having sex with men instead of women isn’t in itself empowering, nor is having a lot of notches on the bed post, I am not saying that at all.

I will repeat what I said earlier, men tend to want a threesome with their wife / GF with a woman, to have the “two girls at once” dream, and for most women I know, that is not at all their dream.

Men tend to become protective, not when watching their GF with another woman in a threesome, but when another dick is involved. I am saying that either both shouldn’t happen, or both should happen.

As it stands the only threesome D would be in would be with another woman, that the dad already had the option to fuck.

I don’t have a problem with that content existing, but why not some content where the dad asks her what her sexual fantasy is. The way our fantasies work is that they are usually something we don’t already have, and sometimes the thing we know we could never have.

Like in DMD the dad might secretly want to fuck D and her mom, watching them play.

The mom might have a secret attraction for D, and want her back to finish grooming her as a sexual partner, or to see her dad fuck D, I am just guessing it would be something odd.

I don’t know what D’s would be, she is an oversexed teenager fucking her dad twice a day. Her life fantasy is probably marrying her dad and bearing his child. (enter Dating my mom when her son turns 18?) But her sexual fantasy would seem to be something she doesn’t have right now.

And maybe it isn’t one of her female friends, maybe it is her mom, maybe it is another man, I would just love to see the story explored

 

[Ed B]

It's hard not to since the behavior in those circumstances is outside her characters typical behavior. It seems like you're forcing a behavior to get an outcome that isn't really justified in the story line.

Grandpa Joe was mentioned....Maybe he's in line as well LMAO