compusavvy

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Hopefully Dots gets the message that many people are not happy with the relatively vanilla direction the game went vs. its initial vision, ya know, the initial vision that got most of us interested. The looming beast fetish and pure innocence to hard deviance corruption was what was supposedly going to set this one apart from the plethora of incest VNs with otherwise vanilla fetishes. Now? :WaitWhat::WaitWhat:
BDSM, bestiality & a little bit of NTR on the side will also be good for D as she sometimes behaves like a slave to F and really should have some self identity..
 

RustyV

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Not that I don't want to see participate in bestiality or mild BDSM, but I don't see how bestiality and BDSM would help D have a more individual identity. Having sex without F being present or letting D choose with whom she will have sex would do more to make her a more independent young woman.
 

Paz

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Not that I don't want to see participate in bestiality or mild BDSM, but I don't see how bestiality and BDSM would help D have a more individual identity. Having sex without F being present or letting D choose with whom she will have sex would do more to make her a more independent young woman.
Not everything is or should be around personality or character development, although one could argue that exploring one's deviant side is also a character trait.
And at this point it's well established that the reason it's not gonna happen is not out-of-character issues (even after dangling the carrot in the face of supporters for well over 1.5 years, a carrot that has become rotten at this point).

As a mental exercise, what would seem more plausible to you down the line?
D being coerced/talked into such stuff by F, or D asking to explore those herself after getting a taste of the sweet life?
 

RustyV

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I do agree with you that bestiality was going to be a viable option when the VN was conceived and now looks to have become more of a fetish tease as it were.
F has not coerced D into anything as of yet, it could be argued he enticed D into more intimate sex acts resulting in her having a total sexual relationship with him. But D also expressed an inner desire to become romantically involved with F.
D is beginning to desire her own sexual adventures semi-independent of F as her sex dream (and probable sex) with Martin illustrates. I personally would like to see that expanded on, and since F sort of gave her a green light to look at other people sexually that (hopefully) will happen.
D and Elena need to finally have full on lesbian sex, D has been acting like a pussy tease long enough.
 
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Paz

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I do agree with you that bestiality was going to be a viable option when the VN was conceived and now looks to have become more of a fetish tease as it were.
F has not coerced D into anything as of yet, it could be argued he enticed D into more intimate sex acts resulting in her having a total sexual relationship with him. But D also expressed an inner desire to become romantically involved with F.
D is beginning to desire her own sexual adventures semi-independent of F as her sex dream (and probable sex) with Martin illustrates. I personally would like to see that expanded on, and since F sort of gave her a green light to look at other people sexually that (hopefully) will happen.
D and Elena need to finally have full on lesbian sex, D has been acting like a pussy tease long enough.
I can get behind this post, except for the bold part. It implies that it is "not viable" anymore, whatever that means.
How is any of that not viable, apart from "I don't wanna write an arc about it" *stomps foot on the ground*.

Given that the game will be continued, there's ample time to ease in such things and not suddenly jump from having cuddly anal sex to visiting gloryholes in her spare time, which arguably does feel rushed or immersion-breaking.
But arguing that e.g. BDSM (to move away from bestiality per se) is not something that can be done is sort of weird, to say the least.
There is absolutely no really valid reason for, say, D not to try some light spanking or whatever in the heat of the moment and find out she actually likes it or gets aroused by it and feel inclined to explore this side of hers more. It's a starting point for further escalation.

Frankly, I understand it may seem that I'm heavily invested into D getting intimate with dogs. It's not about that really, getting 3 or 4 scenes at best with it won't be life-altering in any way (although I admit I'd glee with joy).
It is more about the general hard corruption that was hinted/promised, and even more about the principle of sticking with it.
 

TungstenDuck

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I don't get why people are shitting bricks at the very mention of there being a bestiality OPTION in the game. Everything thus far has been optional except the daddy daughter relationship. You could likely never even get the dog if you chose. It could even be an "unofficial" patch if it causes payment processor problems. I'm good with whatever fetish I don't like being in the game so long as its optional. But currently nothing is slated to happen that we haven't more or less seen so. .meh.
 

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Given that the game will be continued, there's ample time to ease in such things and not suddenly jump from having cuddly anal sex to visiting gloryholes in her spare time, which arguably does feel rushed or immersion-breaking.
But arguing that e.g. BDSM (to move away from bestiality per se) is not something that can be done is sort of weird, to say the least.
There is absolutely no really valid reason for, say, D not to try some light spanking or whatever in the heat of the moment and find out she actually likes it or gets aroused by it and feel inclined to explore this side of hers more. It's a starting point for further escalation.
Light spanking does not equal BDSM. While the former MAY be the first step towards the latter for some, it does not mean it must happen.
From my own experience most women enjoy a little light spanking as part of a sexual relationship, but so far only one has wanted more than that.
 

Paz

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Light spanking does not equal BDSM. While the former MAY be the first step towards the latter for some, it does not mean it must happen.
From my own experience most women enjoy a little light spanking as part of a sexual relationship, but so far only one has wanted more than that.
Of course it doesn't, that's why I mentioned it only as a platform to start exploring that avenue. A form of either of the participants starting to think about it if you will.

Also, it being a game allows for a bit more unrealistic scenarios (some of which we've already witnessed).
 

TungstenDuck

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Oh the eternal battle for bestiality in DMD. Who would win, I wonder? 4.000+ paying subscribers or 2-3 freeloaders complaining on a pirate forum?
I backed Dots financially on Patreon way back and then Subscribe Star more recently. I stopped when it was being flatly stated there would be no bestiality by his writers here and in discord.
 

hzafery

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I am next to all possible ways, after all this is a game and we already upset the general moral rules, so I do not see any harm to the animal sex.
 

Sheperdxgn

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I haven't been to this thread in a couple of months so imagine my surprise seeing this whole bestiality debate. I didn't even know that was a thing, looking a few pages back I can see that he answered that it wouldn't nor will it ever be a thing. Wouldn't the reasonable thing to do in this situation is accept it for what it is shrug your shoulders and move on. By the way some of you are acting you would think he made an announcement declaring that D will now be celibate and no longer engage in sexual relations with you.

This is a game where we meet your daughter for the first time since forever who prior to meeting us hasn't had even a crumb of anything even remotely sexual happen around(if you don't count E copping a feel when she gets the chance) and it's our job to slowly open her up to this world of sex and things it entails. When it comes to this whole corrupting thing the furthest I've seen it going is some exhibition with some BDSM and the occasional swinging but having her be mounted by a animal never seemed realistically possible to me considering the circumstances. Obviously we've been on different wavelengths with this whole corrupting thing if this is getting to people this much. My advice go play a game that involves that and get your fix there then come back here because the most taboo this game is gonna get is incest.
 

Paz

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...Obviously we've been on different wavelengths with this whole corrupting thing if this is getting to people this much. My advice go play a game that involves that and get your fix there then come back here because the most taboo this game is gonna get is incest.
Here's the thing with that, there are and have been back and forths for quite a while. And there are also things that I take issue with.

1. I take issue with the fact that it was planned from the start, and for a very long time.
- You can clearly see it the Fetishes list
- Bonus points for the doggy render to lure more suckers in, like me.
A keen eye will observe that there are entries mentioning it who are dated 2 years into developing the game.

2. I take issue with the fact that the "authorities" that adamantly said NO and the ones that propagate that information, are writers and moderators and members of the fan discord, none of which had anything to do with the game for a very long time.

3. I take issue with the fact that the excuse basically is "Awww, poor MrDots really wants to do it, but the meanie writers won't let him". Really?
And on top of that the reason for not allowing him (it really sounds silly as I type it) are:
-They don't like it.
-The usual way of having intercourse with animals is not sexy. As nothing else in the game is idealized.
Please, go to your employer and say "Boss, remember when we said we're gonna makes these boxes in red and blue? Well, make them blue only. I don't like red. I'm gonna hold my breath till it happens". See how it goes.

4. I take issue with the fact that this whole time it has been "yes-yes-yes-yes-NO", which frankly seems like a well-placed bait for extra support. At least he got a couple hundred bucks from me so I guess it worked.

5. I take issue with the fact that MrDots is widely kept on a pedestal and can do no wrong, and shame on you if you have a different opinion.

6. I take issue with many people who feel that anything being done with their digital crush that they do not like is despicable, even if they never have to experience it themselves. Withdraw your troops.

7. I take issue with the fact that whoever as so much suggests than plans should be adhered to, or hopes for a change of heart gets told to shut up because no-one else likes these things, and they are a leeching minority anyway so who cares.

So us being into different wavelengths might be because we've had different things suggested to anticipate.
It's not about anyone "getting a fix", as if this is something people requested out of the blue and not hinted upon, or something that people need to get out of their system.

I apologize for making this a bit long, and for side-tracking the thread. I will not disturb this matter further.
Everyone can go back into commenting how D's face is adorable for pages upon pages.
 
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