VN Ren'Py Completed Dating My Daughter [Ch. 1-4 v1.01] [MrDots Games]

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fried_ said:
Per my prior post, I see polyamory differently - it's a big term in actual use, but is more about actual relationship-building beyond a simple couple and not about sleeping around, per se. And, it typically is more democratic than one person controlling the shots ... requires a lot of give+take, communication, understanding, acceptance, etc.

You seem to be describing swinging, IMHO. Unless you intend for D to go on dates in the context of potential relationship-building, though even then at least agreement would seem natural with F rather than "control" - even if they were a primary couple in a polyamorous situation.
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I don’t disagree. maybe I should have called it more like sharing As opposed to Hotwife.

We will have though, at least in the one-male several-female version. Some see that as a harem outcome, but since I believe they will all be in a long term and fairly co-equal relationship, I would call it polyamory And not a harem. (We May never have what I consider a harem, which is imo a male dominated group of females.)
 
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cool post!

We won‘t ever do cheating or semi-cuck issues, but some of the physical aspects yiu mentioned - such as F watching - who knows. Personally, I’d also like to see D go on a date without F but under his agreement and understanding. I consider that polyamory more than being a hotwife even. (It’s like hotwifing but F is in control of the situation - and not the “wife”).

i have no idea where we will be by the time we are full swing into chapter 4, so we might also have a traditional Hotwife aspect with D.

one problem we’ll have in Chapter 4 is how many variations on the threads we will want to explore. Do we do a D/F/+1 female, and every combo that can involve; and then every variation of D/F+2 females, etc. in actuality, we‘ll pick and choose among the variations.
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Like the D going on a date idea.
Maybe a dating a guy and one dating a girl.
Dating a girl would let D take the dominate role and be the one asking a girl out for a date (one of life's most unnerving moments) and doing the "guy" part, let her be in control throughout the night. Of course that might require a new girl that does not have an established place in D's life. Maybe a girl at school or another young model.
A young female fan of model D would be good. Let D be in control from start to "finish". Give sweet little D the chance to do some of the DMD corrupting.
Maybe much later D could date a girl who lives in a town nearby, one who looks like her, and possibly works at a hotel. Just saying.
 
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While D having new a novel sexual exploits is great, it should never replace the story that has been so carefully crafted. When gratuitous sex dominates you end up with cheap 1970's porn. DMD is better than that and needs to keep the balance of story and sex with sex being the end result of good plot and dialogue, not supplanting it.
 
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Like the D going on a date idea.
Maybe a dating a guy and one dating a girl.
Dating a girl would let D take the dominate role and be the one asking a girl out for a date (one of life's most unnerving moments) and doing the "guy" part, let her be in control throughout the night. Of course that might require a new girl that does not have an established place in D's life. Maybe a girl at school or another young model.
A young female fan of model D would be good. Let D be in control from start to "finish". Give sweet little D the chance to do some of the DMD corrupting.
Maybe much later D could date a girl who lives in a town nearby, one who looks like her, and possibly works at a hotel. Just saying.
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Hmm, I really like the idea that D that date a girl less experienced (Or more beta) than D....

what if she got a young lady to be her gal Friday - perhaps in Chapter 4 as her career is blooming.
 
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Jeff Steel said:
Hmm, I really like the idea that D that date a girl less experienced (Or more beta) than D....

what if she got a young lady to be her gal Friday - perhaps in Chapter 4 as her career is blooming.
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Maybe let her explore a dom/sub dynamic that D gradually finds enticing, possibly from her "assistant" volunteering for increasingly more duties to "serve" her boss (massages, laundry, meals, etc.), encouraging D to give her specific instructions such as how to dress for the job, when to show up for work, how to punish her for not getting the right outfit ready for a modeling gig on time, etc.? D could fall upon what D/s is about from discussion of her dynamic with a friend or MC, or maybe by chance online, which could help things fall into place to make it a more formal relationship.

That type of dynamic is made possible (and healthy) by clear communications of wants from both parties, so the assistant can put herself into situations where D accepts taking on her dominant duties with both of their desires in mind.
 
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fried_ said:
Maybe let her explore a dom/sub dynamic that D gradually finds enticing, possibly from her "assistant" volunteering for increasingly more duties to "serve" her boss (massages, laundry, meals, etc.), encouraging D to give her specific instructions such as how to dress for the job, when to show up for work, how to punish her for not getting the right outfit ready for a modeling gig on time, etc.? D could fall upon what D/s is about from discussion of her dynamic with a friend or MC, or maybe by chance online, which could help things fall into place to make it a more formal relationship.

That type of dynamic is made possible (and healthy) by clear communications of wants from both parties, so the assistant can put herself into situations where D accepts taking on her dominant duties with both of their desires in mind.
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Oh man.. I will never manage to have a "feeling" for BDSM and/or dom/sub relations. I'm not at all tempted to play any of those roles. That's just not my world. But I know that it's quite trendy at this time so if it must be .. so be it :)
 
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Jeff Steel said:
Hmm, I really like the idea that D that date a girl less experienced (Or more beta) than D....

what if she got a young lady to be her gal Friday - perhaps in Chapter 4 as her career is blooming.
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Any kind of relations of D with other GIRLS would be absolutely OK from my point of view. Even in a normal (not open) relationship in a game or in real life. Because a woman is not a man. A woman is in no way to be seen as "competition" for a man. She doesn't take the place of a man in the heart of a woman. She occupies the place of a WOMAN there, which is NOT MY place. A woman doesn't even have a cock lol so.. no "penis envy" either and.. absolutely no problem :). Be that just sexual or polyamory, I would have no problem sharing my "one and only" with anotherWOMAN.
Where I would have a problem though (be that in a game or in real life) would be if D (or her equivalent in RL) started another ROMANTIC relationship with another MAN. Sharing her sexually, for fun (hers and mine) would be OK but sharing her LOVE for me with another man .. hmmmm that's hard.. Because that man, unlike a woman, would really take MY place in her heart (or at least part of my place). Love is the base of our relation. It's what keeps us together it's what we have ABOVE all other things that we may do with others or not. It's the most valuable thing we both have. It's not just.. fun. That would mean indeed polyamory and I don't think i could share at that level.
And although such 3 some relations (1 man 2 women) that i called "mini harems" before would be indeed polyamory relations (sorry for using the wrong term) and I would have no problem with such relations, i don' t think i could accept a polyamory relation where another MAN is involved. Maybe if i was gay or bi (like in House of Cards lol) but I'm not.. After all, in a MFF relation the 2 women have also feelings for each other and enjoy each other also sexually (like Dee and Elena) so it is easier for each of them to also share the man they love with each other. But in a MMF relation that's not possible unless the man is gay or bi. Otherwise it wouldn't be "fair" for the man..
The only type of relationship where i would be able to accept a romantic relation of my beloved woman with another man would be one of the kind F/D/G/O. Which let's say started by simple "swinging" between 2 couples but developed with time into a polyamory relation where everybody loves everybody. The "fairness" of a "wife swapping" relation which is "i give you my wife, you give me yours, let's fuck!" could be transferred in such a case to a polyamory relation. And with that i could be OK. "I love your wife and she loves me and you love my wife and she loves you" That's still fair! I would lose half of the love of my wife but that half would be filled by the wife of the man who got that half.. And that goes for each of the 4 people involved. Fair deal! Therefore acceptable! And in such a case I wouldn't have to be gay or bi. I could just become best buddies with the other man. After all, we share the best we have lol..
I would really love to see a path like this and a corresponding ending in DMD. The only games that have such a path (and such an ending among others) are 2 of the Lesson of Passion games and Dreaming of Dana. I enjoyed that one but.. Dana was no Dee lol (and also no animations).
 
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Oh man.. I will never manage to have a "feeling" for BDSM and/or dom/sub relations. I'm not at all tempted to play any of those roles. That's just not my world. But I know that it's quite trendy at this time so if it must be .. so be it :)
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Well, I'm not thinking trendy - as it is, D/s has been around for a looooong time - as the notion of D being the boss for a new assistant-type woman would seem to easily lend towards exploration in this area.

D has a penchant for soaking up new social experiences in this novel, so it feels like a natural extension of that inclination to explore new things, find she enjoys them and then really get into it all.

On your point about her having a relationship with a woman being necessarily different in meaning than with a man, I would offer that Men Aren't From Mars and Women Aren't From Venus - individuals vary and attitudes go along with them for a couple's dynamic, but there are more similarities than differences between the sexes.
 
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Jeff Steel said:
Hmm, I really like the idea that D that date a girl less experienced (Or more beta) than D....

what if she got a young lady to be her gal Friday - perhaps in Chapter 4 as her career is blooming.
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D gets ready to take out her date.
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Hey this is from the Chapter 1 extra gallery, so it's been in the game since nearly the VN's release.

D seems to be influenced by media, so if D and F watched a soft porn video where 2 women went on a date that led to them having sex this could be plant the seed of D wanting to date. That and D could wonder if a date was different from the man's perspective and want this new experience.
It could also be hinted at by D asking F questions about dating. I can see F helping D get ready for her date in a fatherly way.
"Remember to hold the door open for her, and pull out her chair."
"Did you get flowers? Girls love flowers." "If not swing by the cemetery there's always some there."
For fun F slips a condom into D's pocket.
 
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fried_ said:
Well, I'm not thinking trendy - as it is, D/s has been around for a looooong time - as the notion of D being the boss for a new assistant-type woman would seem to easily lend towards exploration in this area.

D has a penchant for soaking up new social experiences in this novel, so it feels like a natural extension of that inclination to explore new things, find she enjoys them and then really get into it all.

On your point about her having a relationship with a woman being necessarily different in meaning that with a man, I would offer that Men Aren't From Mars and Women Aren't From Venus - individuals vary and attitudes go along with them for a couple's dynamic, but there are more similarities than differences between the sexes.
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First off women can have the planet with the sulfuric acid atmosphere, men will keep the cool one that has Marvin the Martian.

I do agree that a woman can be just as threatening to a relationship as a man. To think that a woman can not develop romantic feelings for another woman she is having sex with is not realistic.

D dating another woman is a way for her to have a new social experience, and being the dominant party could add a thrill for her. D could be expressing her self-confidence by assuming the controlling role.

IMO build up is often more thrilling than the event. Think how happy you are when you leave work knowing that your vacation starts that moment. For the players the thrill can be witnessing D going from curiosity to deciding to go for it, to finding the right girl, asking her out and finally going on the date.
 
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my ending picks:

- F+D only ending, well, this one is obvious, with pregnant as optional, maybe even after birth scene, a happy family.
- F+D only with bdsm, D is submissive and used as a pet, lots of kinky sex. no pregnancy.
- F+D+1F (girl of choice) but without pregnancy. a MFF ending where they enjoy each other, but I can't see a happy family with many kids playing around and F with 2 wives.
- F+D+1M I can't see Martin as a permanent solution, I think a sharing ending, would be that F+D are experimenting and inviting different males from time to time to explore and try different things.
 
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