Uthuriel

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One of the infinite possibilities offered by this game once the vanilla/harem/no NTR people got their ending (mariage, kids, a house in the suburbs, a boring job : the american dream we all want to see in a porn game), is Martin fucking Elena Jennifer, Georgina whoever as long as there's a good story for this. I also really want to see a Graham+his daughter+Dee+MC scene. I'm basically open to see whatever combination of characters that didn't happen already. I'm sick of seeing MC+Dee fucking in normal situations (I can appreciate scenes like Dee blowing dad in the restaurant under the table, tho, anything that's not Dee+Dad in a bed or in the shower is still welcomed). Also, this game is missing a Bacon/Eric character that Dee would take a liking to and at least give him a blowjob. But new characters like this probably won't happen unless they change their mind and there's a chapter 5. Or 6.
Anyways, my point is : if you're not a hardcore anti NTR person, this game could last 2-4 years more, there's plenty of stories and events yet to explore.
The focus of Chapter 4 are F and D. Chapter 4 is also the last one.
 

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The focus of Chapter 4 are F and D. Chapter 4 is also the last one.
1/I can dream
2/That wouldn't be the first time the devs change their mind.
3/This chapter will be boring for me if you're right, but I hope at the end of it anti-sharing people are satisfied, move on to another game, and then the "I don't give a fuck about NTR or not" people like me can have other chapters with relationships not limited to F+D. The problem is the anti NTR/sharing people will probably complain even if they have a whole chapter dedicated to them. Maybe the solution would be to rename the possible next chapters of the game "DmD : alternative stories" which would be clearly designed for people who are not into vanilla.
 

Uthuriel

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1/I can dream
2/That wouldn't be the first time the devs change their mind.
3/This chapter will be boring for me if you're right, but I hope at the end of it anti-NTR people are satisfied, move on to another game, and then the "I don't give a fuck about NTR or not" people like me can have other chapters with relationships not limited to F+D. The problem is the anti NTR people will probably complain even if they have a whole chapter dedicated to them. Maybe the solution would be to rename the possible next chapters of the game "DmD : alternative stories" which would be clearly unsuitable for anti-NTR people.
1. Of course you can. Nobody said otherwise.

2. True. I think they will focus on Sunshine Love after DMD is finished though.

3. There will never be NTR in any MrDots games.

Q: Will there be NTR, bestiality or rape content in one of the games?

A: No, absolutely not. Regardless if we put in some scenes which may insinuate that NTR, bestiality or rape could happen in a future update, we can assure you that it won’t. *Exception might be some minor bestiality content later on in DMD, which then will be of course 100% avoidable.
 

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3/This chapter will be boring for me if you're right
From their Discord: "How many times do we have to say this!? Sharing will not be the focus in chapter 4! The focus will be F and D's relationship. They won't be adding in any new characters, but some may make appearances. All the side content, like sharing paths, will wind down as the focus goes more with F and D's relationship, which is what the story was always meant to be about. All the stuff with Martin and Ryan and Georgina and Elena etc. is all side content and unimportant to the story as a whole. I know you guys got spoiled with a lot of focus on sharing in chapter 3, but the devs have already stated they regret this, because it took too much attention away from the main story of D and F's relationship."
 

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bestiality is most likely against patreon rules and don't think subs would allow it either. seen bestiality (mild) on 1 game few years ago and at that time patreon was more openminded.
 

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bestiality is most likely against patreon rules and don't think subs would allow it either. seen bestiality (mild) on 1 game few years ago and at that time patreon was more openminded.
Patreon rules doesn't matter though since DMD is not in Patreon anymore. Subs probably wouldn't allow it, even if it was optional, like most of them wouldn't allow optional sharing paths either.
 

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1. Of course you can. Nobody said otherwise.

2. True. I think they will focus on Sunshine Love after DMD is finished though.

3. There will never be NTR in any MrDots games.

Q: Will there be NTR, bestiality or rape content in one of the games?

A: No, absolutely not. Regardless if we put in some scenes which may insinuate that NTR, bestiality or rape could happen in a future update, we can assure you that it won’t. *Exception might be some minor bestiality content later on in DMD, which then will be of course 100% avoidable.
Yep, when I said NTR, I meant sharing, I edited my post after it. What I meant was that often the most vocal anti-NTR people are also anti-sharing, which is technically not the same. We should really find a way to clear this language problem because it's very vague sometimes and some people are prompt to get angry even when everything is clear.
We'll see if I'm wrong or not in the future, but for me this game and its characters are beloved by many, from each side of the spectrum (from the Vanilla/harem crowd to the sharing/bestiality people), so I don't see how the devs could end it after this chapter. Financially speaking, there will still be a good opportunity to make money after it. Even if Sunshine Love works (pretty art, more audience because Patreon and not Subscribestar) I'm guessing there will be a lot of people like me who don't care about it and will want more DmD.
 
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Uthuriel

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Yep, when I said NTR, I meant sharing, I edited my post after it. What I meant was that often the most vocal anti-NTR people are also anti-sharing, which is technically not the same. We should really find a way to clear this language problem because it's very vague sometimes and some people are prompt to get angry even when everything is clear.
We'll see if I'm wrong or not in the future, but for me this game and its characters are beloved by many, from each side of the spectrum (from the Vanilla/harem crowd to the sharing/bestiality people), so I don't see how the devs could end it after this chapter. Financially speaking, there will still be a good opportunity to make money after it. Even if Sunshine Love works (pretty art, more audience because Patreon and not Subscribestar) I'm guessing there will be a lot of people like me who don't care about it and will want more DmD.
It's quite clear actually.

Q: What is your definition of NTR?

A: From Jeff Steel, the current attorney in the developing group, being told that they are not going to overpromise on these restrictions.
Netorare (寝取られ, most commonly abbreviated as NTR) comes from Notora. Notora is a Japanese term that literally translates to "taken away by sleeping with.”
Netorare is therefore being defined as: (1) the MC having a love/dating interest and (2) having another person steal that love/dating interest away via sex, sexual prowess, etc.
Thus defined, NTR would NOT include when the MC meets up with a love/dating interest that ALREADY has a different love/dating interest and the MC eventually steals her away. In fact, this would be Netori.
NTR also does not include situations of sharing, swapping, taking a break, having a hall pass, or having a threesome. NTR also does not include situation where the MC chooses not to progress with a love/dating interest and that person moves on in with life with another partner.
 

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It's quite clear actually.

Q: What is your definition of NTR?

A: From Jeff Steel, the current attorney in the developing group, being told that they are not going to overpromise on these restrictions.
Netorare (寝取られ, most commonly abbreviated as NTR) comes from Notora. Notora is a Japanese term that literally translates to "taken away by sleeping with.”
Netorare is therefore being defined as: (1) the MC having a love/dating interest and (2) having another person steal that love/dating interest away via sex, sexual prowess, etc.
Thus defined, NTR would NOT include when the MC meets up with a love/dating interest that ALREADY has a different love/dating interest and the MC eventually steals her away. In fact, this would be Netori.
NTR also does not include situations of sharing, swapping, taking a break, having a hall pass, or having a threesome. NTR also does not include situation where the MC chooses not to progress with a love/dating interest and that person moves on in with life with another partner.
Sure, it's clear for the devs, it's clear for me and for you, but surely I'm not the only one seeing people complaining about NTR when in reality it's just sharing. So for some people it's unclear.
 

Uthuriel

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Sure, it's clear for the devs, it's clear for me and for you, but surely I'm not the only one seeing people complaining about NTR when in reality it's just sharing. So for some people it's unclear.
Let people complain then. In the end it's irrelevant.
 
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I hate people keep conflicting what this game has with NTR... It's straight up sharing... Initially to me, it looked like it was going down a cuck path wit martian, but as it actually played out, it was sharing, tho there was some still questionable things said that was dissatisfying.
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1. Of course you can. Nobody said otherwise.

2. True. I think they will focus on Sunshine Love after DMD is finished though.

3. There will never be NTR in any MrDots games.

Q: Will there be NTR, bestiality or rape content in one of the games?

A: No, absolutely not. Regardless if we put in some scenes which may insinuate that NTR, bestiality or rape could happen in a future update, we can assure you that it won’t. *Exception might be some minor bestiality content later on in DMD, which then will be of course 100% avoidable.
They keep saying there is no NTR in DMD, but Rachel was banging D's boyfriend Frank without D or Rachel's husband knowing so....NTR.
And if Martin was banging Maria on a regular basis you could make the argument Martin+D was also NR.
 

Uthuriel

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They keep saying there is no NTR in DMD, but Rachel was banging D's boyfriend Frank without D or Rachel's husband knowing so....NTR.
And if Martin was banging Maria on a regular basis you could make the argument Martin+D was also NR.
I think you are technically right.

I think what they mean is that the MC won't be affected by NTR.
M and D seem to be semi-canon at best to be honest. At least that's the feeling I get from the whole thing.
As they said, all side content is unimportant to the story as a whole.
 
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The VN had been evolving for four years so drifting from the canon can be excused a bit.
What I think no NTR means is D will never cheat on F.
 
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Chapter 4 drops on Saturday. This is the first update for what is heralded as the last chapter in the DMD saga and will likely set the tone for the rest of the chapter. So this is an important update for the VN.
After Saturday we may have more of an idea where this chapter is headed and if the last installment of DMD will recapture the depth of story of the first two chapters.

Oh and I just posted an image of D, Elena and Jennifer poolside.

I have an idea for a good joke but I need to find a Yogi Bear asset.
 
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It could have been better for them to do it according to everyone's wishes.
This is one of the most divisive AVNs out there, so there is no "according to everyone's wishes". People who adore D and her Fathers story, and want to keep it wholesome and endearing, are upset at the sharing, and cheating. People who want something more taboo, and deviant, are upset it's too "vanilla". Only a handful seem to like it as it is, or maybe there are a lot of silent fans. At any rate it's not possible to please everyone, or even close to everyone, as invested as people have become in this game over the years. I don't envy the Dots team in choosing content for this game. ;)
 

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From their Discord: "How many times do we have to say this!? Sharing will not be the focus in chapter 4! The focus will be F and D's relationship. They won't be adding in any new characters, but some may make appearances. All the side content, like sharing paths, will wind down as the focus goes more with F and D's relationship, which is what the story was always meant to be about. All the stuff with Martin and Ryan and Georgina and Elena etc. is all side content and unimportant to the story as a whole. I know you guys got spoiled with a lot of focus on sharing in chapter 3, but the devs have already stated they regret this, because it took too much attention away from the main story of D and F's relationship."
The focus will be F and D relationship? I don't know what else they can tell us,yes I know the whole "how D is going to become a model" thing, but at this point speaking for myself I really don't care and seeing how this game has become is going to be so simple and cliche
 
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