Kryptozoid

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1. Of course you can. Nobody said otherwise.

2. True. I think they will focus on Sunshine Love after DMD is finished though.

3. There will never be NTR in any MrDots games.

Q: Will there be NTR, bestiality or rape content in one of the games?

A: No, absolutely not. Regardless if we put in some scenes which may insinuate that NTR, bestiality or rape could happen in a future update, we can assure you that it won’t. *Exception might be some minor bestiality content later on in DMD, which then will be of course 100% avoidable.
Yep, when I said NTR, I meant sharing, I edited my post after it. What I meant was that often the most vocal anti-NTR people are also anti-sharing, which is technically not the same. We should really find a way to clear this language problem because it's very vague sometimes and some people are prompt to get angry even when everything is clear.
We'll see if I'm wrong or not in the future, but for me this game and its characters are beloved by many, from each side of the spectrum (from the Vanilla/harem crowd to the sharing/bestiality people), so I don't see how the devs could end it after this chapter. Financially speaking, there will still be a good opportunity to make money after it. Even if Sunshine Love works (pretty art, more audience because Patreon and not Subscribestar) I'm guessing there will be a lot of people like me who don't care about it and will want more DmD.
 
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Uthuriel

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Yep, when I said NTR, I meant sharing, I edited my post after it. What I meant was that often the most vocal anti-NTR people are also anti-sharing, which is technically not the same. We should really find a way to clear this language problem because it's very vague sometimes and some people are prompt to get angry even when everything is clear.
We'll see if I'm wrong or not in the future, but for me this game and its characters are beloved by many, from each side of the spectrum (from the Vanilla/harem crowd to the sharing/bestiality people), so I don't see how the devs could end it after this chapter. Financially speaking, there will still be a good opportunity to make money after it. Even if Sunshine Love works (pretty art, more audience because Patreon and not Subscribestar) I'm guessing there will be a lot of people like me who don't care about it and will want more DmD.
It's quite clear actually.

Q: What is your definition of NTR?

A: From Jeff Steel, the current attorney in the developing group, being told that they are not going to overpromise on these restrictions.
Netorare (寝取られ, most commonly abbreviated as NTR) comes from Notora. Notora is a Japanese term that literally translates to "taken away by sleeping with.”
Netorare is therefore being defined as: (1) the MC having a love/dating interest and (2) having another person steal that love/dating interest away via sex, sexual prowess, etc.
Thus defined, NTR would NOT include when the MC meets up with a love/dating interest that ALREADY has a different love/dating interest and the MC eventually steals her away. In fact, this would be Netori.
NTR also does not include situations of sharing, swapping, taking a break, having a hall pass, or having a threesome. NTR also does not include situation where the MC chooses not to progress with a love/dating interest and that person moves on in with life with another partner.
 

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It's quite clear actually.

Q: What is your definition of NTR?

A: From Jeff Steel, the current attorney in the developing group, being told that they are not going to overpromise on these restrictions.
Netorare (寝取られ, most commonly abbreviated as NTR) comes from Notora. Notora is a Japanese term that literally translates to "taken away by sleeping with.”
Netorare is therefore being defined as: (1) the MC having a love/dating interest and (2) having another person steal that love/dating interest away via sex, sexual prowess, etc.
Thus defined, NTR would NOT include when the MC meets up with a love/dating interest that ALREADY has a different love/dating interest and the MC eventually steals her away. In fact, this would be Netori.
NTR also does not include situations of sharing, swapping, taking a break, having a hall pass, or having a threesome. NTR also does not include situation where the MC chooses not to progress with a love/dating interest and that person moves on in with life with another partner.
Sure, it's clear for the devs, it's clear for me and for you, but surely I'm not the only one seeing people complaining about NTR when in reality it's just sharing. So for some people it's unclear.
 

Uthuriel

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Sure, it's clear for the devs, it's clear for me and for you, but surely I'm not the only one seeing people complaining about NTR when in reality it's just sharing. So for some people it's unclear.
Let people complain then. In the end it's irrelevant.
 
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I hate people keep conflicting what this game has with NTR... It's straight up sharing... Initially to me, it looked like it was going down a cuck path wit martian, but as it actually played out, it was sharing, tho there was some still questionable things said that was dissatisfying.
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1. Of course you can. Nobody said otherwise.

2. True. I think they will focus on Sunshine Love after DMD is finished though.

3. There will never be NTR in any MrDots games.

Q: Will there be NTR, bestiality or rape content in one of the games?

A: No, absolutely not. Regardless if we put in some scenes which may insinuate that NTR, bestiality or rape could happen in a future update, we can assure you that it won’t. *Exception might be some minor bestiality content later on in DMD, which then will be of course 100% avoidable.
They keep saying there is no NTR in DMD, but Rachel was banging D's boyfriend Frank without D or Rachel's husband knowing so....NTR.
And if Martin was banging Maria on a regular basis you could make the argument Martin+D was also NR.
 

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They keep saying there is no NTR in DMD, but Rachel was banging D's boyfriend Frank without D or Rachel's husband knowing so....NTR.
And if Martin was banging Maria on a regular basis you could make the argument Martin+D was also NR.
I think you are technically right.

I think what they mean is that the MC won't be affected by NTR.
M and D seem to be semi-canon at best to be honest. At least that's the feeling I get from the whole thing.
As they said, all side content is unimportant to the story as a whole.
 
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The VN had been evolving for four years so drifting from the canon can be excused a bit.
What I think no NTR means is D will never cheat on F.
 
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Chapter 4 drops on Saturday. This is the first update for what is heralded as the last chapter in the DMD saga and will likely set the tone for the rest of the chapter. So this is an important update for the VN.
After Saturday we may have more of an idea where this chapter is headed and if the last installment of DMD will recapture the depth of story of the first two chapters.

Oh and I just posted an image of D, Elena and Jennifer poolside.

I have an idea for a good joke but I need to find a Yogi Bear asset.
 
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It could have been better for them to do it according to everyone's wishes.
This is one of the most divisive AVNs out there, so there is no "according to everyone's wishes". People who adore D and her Fathers story, and want to keep it wholesome and endearing, are upset at the sharing, and cheating. People who want something more taboo, and deviant, are upset it's too "vanilla". Only a handful seem to like it as it is, or maybe there are a lot of silent fans. At any rate it's not possible to please everyone, or even close to everyone, as invested as people have become in this game over the years. I don't envy the Dots team in choosing content for this game. ;)
 

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From their Discord: "How many times do we have to say this!? Sharing will not be the focus in chapter 4! The focus will be F and D's relationship. They won't be adding in any new characters, but some may make appearances. All the side content, like sharing paths, will wind down as the focus goes more with F and D's relationship, which is what the story was always meant to be about. All the stuff with Martin and Ryan and Georgina and Elena etc. is all side content and unimportant to the story as a whole. I know you guys got spoiled with a lot of focus on sharing in chapter 3, but the devs have already stated they regret this, because it took too much attention away from the main story of D and F's relationship."
The focus will be F and D relationship? I don't know what else they can tell us,yes I know the whole "how D is going to become a model" thing, but at this point speaking for myself I really don't care and seeing how this game has become is going to be so simple and cliche
 

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For a game with absolutely never ever any NTR - the MC has being cucked twice- Once by his Father in law and once by Brad.

The writing is a mess thanks to the writers never talking to each other about plot points
True.
Remember though that both this things happened in MCs past and are only mentioned in the game.
 
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This is one of the most divisive AVNs out there, so there is no "according to everyone's wishes". People who adore D and her Fathers story, and want to keep it wholesome and endearing, are upset at the sharing, and cheating. People who want something more taboo, and deviant, are upset it's too "vanilla". Only a handful seem to like it as it is, or maybe there are a lot of silent fans. At any rate it's not possible to please everyone, or even close to everyone, as invested as people have become in this game over the years. I don't envy the Dots team in choosing content for this game. ;)
Well there would be a solution to this problem, which is to make 2 GAMES:

DMD- which would continue on the D only path (incest vanilla :)).
and
SMD (Sharing my Daughter) which would satisfy all wishes of those of us who want .. something else.

Because yes, it is not possible to please everyone in ONE GAME. But in 2 GAMES... it would work.
I suggested this solution a few months ago but they didn't take it..

The few people who are OK with the game "so as it is" are not enough to keep this game alive, so as it is.. The fight between these 2 factions will go on and DMD will suffer from that, as it already did in Ch3.

It could also work if both these so different paths could be implemented in ONE GAME with no interference, and very clear options and ways to chose the path you like and to stay on it. However, from what we hear, Mr.Dots seem to have decided (again) to go vanilla only (or mostly) even in Ch4 and that will (again) NOT work. I can only hope that these "rumors" are false. We will see in a few hours.. :)

By the way, where the heck was that "clock"? I can't find it.
 
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Well there would be a solution to this problem, which is to make 2 GAMES:

DMD- which would continue on the D only path (incest vanilla :)).
and
SMD (Sharing my Daughter) which would satisfy all wishes of those of us who want .. something else.
it's very possible with 1 game, the solution is called choices. the reason why the game appeal is "failing" is because of sjw bullshit who yell out loud they'll leave the game if a choice for NTR/beastiality/full on slut D exists.

And the Dev who got his balls cut off to actually go the corruption route (as originally planned).

And that's how Martin became the most polite and thoughtful BBC in the west
("is it ok, D? Are you sure? F, is it ok if I shag her? Really? Please think again... Sure? Ok, ok, thank you for the opportunity")

I'm pretty sure a lot of us stick around this game, hoping for it to jump the ship out of vanilla waters
 

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The reason I stick around is to see it completed, really. I have spend so much time and it is still the first game that got me in this genre, that abandoning it right now feels like cheating. I was actually a 20$ donator in the first months.

Chapter 4 should put the focus on an end-game and for me that is a combination of D+Elena (and Jennifer). I don't want to see any other non interesting plots (such as the whole modeling part), which takes too much time and are boring AF.
 
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