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As someone who doesn't mind the Martin path, I too found the conversation between him and D a bit out of character, with him being quite a dick for most of the night. D on the other hand is learning her kinks and she has found she likes dirty talk. You are right she has changed, but that is because she has been encouraged to explore what she likes since she has been with F, when she was sheltered when she was with her mom. Elena tries the dirty talk at times, but not always and Jennifer is less experienced than D.
Talking dirty is one thing, but it doesn't have to be disrespectful like it is with Martin.

I much prefer Elena's version of talking dirty.
 
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Talking dirty is one thing, but it doesn't have to be disrespectful like it is with Martin.

I much prefer Elena's version of talking dirty.
As do I which is why despite liking the Martin path, I thought Martin was an asshole in this update and I'm glad there was an option for F to get pissed off with him as he knows how much D cares about Martin.

Is the ntr avoidable?
There is no NTR in the game, so yes, fairly easily. If you mean sharing/swinging with other men, then also yes, 100% avoidable.
 

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the martin-path is quite bad. u can read that the writer is not experienced with sharing at all.
it doesn't matter if u want to create "a personality", what we want is a hot sharing scene. so of course the writer need to adjust his personality to be something that works in this scenario.
the whole martin-route is quite superficial and hollow.

the original writer did know how to write, unfortunately, when he left, the game lost it soul.
 
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Anyone who has a basic understanding of swinging knows it isn't NTR, or "cucking".
Well anyone who has a basic understanding of swinging knows that there are no feelings involved. In this case D literally said she loves Martin and like someone said before, she lets him cum inside knowing she's not on the pill so from my basic understanding this is way more than basic swinging.
 

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cuz many see sharing as ntr aka heaven forbid if li has sex with some1 else.
and exactly THAT is the big problem: people THINK.....
I know you know better, so please don't feel personal offence when i am saying "according to their definition (sex with anyone else) it should also count as ntr when Dee having intercourse with Elena. I am NOT on Elena path - so what? Is it now ntr? Dee had sex with someone else?......

People need to grow up and finally learn that ntr is NOT simply "having sex with non-love-interest or see another dick".

Look:
The heck, people call even the long past memory of a sex scene between Dad and Ashley (inSunshine Love) as ntr even MC was a child then and Ashley was NOT a love interest at all that time.
Some people just are too insecure and don't want to see ANY other dick at all -> but "i hate dicks" is more to type than "i hate ntr", i guess
 
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the original writer did know how to write, unfortunately, when he left, the game lost it soul.
well - so you mean since first half of chapter 1. Or in other words: after 6 months out of over 5 years?
Asides that, there is no "THE writer".
Jeff STeel does the writing for character fleshing out.
HearszAM does the story texts AFTER they have decided together how the scenes should look like.
And finally AFTER that, MrDots goes over it and changes and tweaks here and there if he thinks it should be changed.

So i humble ask you to stop acting like THE writer (hearsz) is the one to blame for something YOU don't like.
 

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Well anyone who has a basic understanding of swinging knows that there are no feelings involved. In this case D literally said she loves Martin and like someone said before, she lets him cum inside knowing she's not on the pill so from my basic understanding this is way more than basic swinging.
She loves him, but isn't in love with him. Just like she loves Elena, Jennifer/Georgina, and Olivia. Also, depending on what you chose re pregnancy, she is on the pill. Martin directly asked her if she is on the pill or not.
 

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and exactly THAT is the big problem: people THINK.....
I know you know better, so please don't feel personal offence when i am saying "according to their definition (sex with anyone else) it should also count as ntr when Dee having intercourse with Elena. I am NOT on Elena path - so what? Is it now ntr? Dee had sex with someone else?......

People need to grow up and finally learn that ntr is NOT simply "having sex with non-love-interest or see another dick".

Look:
The heck, people call even the long past memory of a sex scene between Dad and Ashley (inSunshine Love) as ntr even MC was a child then and Ashley was NOT a love interest at all that time.
Some people just are too insecure and don't want to see ANY other dick at all -> but "i hate dicks" is more to type than "i hate ntr", i guess
I remember people complaining about NTR because if you reject Elena, she has a thing with the guy from the countryside. If you reject her, she isn't a love interest.
 

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... what you chose re pregnancy, she is on the pill. Martin directly asked her if she is on the pill or not.
I confirm that!
Either she is on the pill - so no pregnancy at all. Neither from Dad, nor from Martin.
A little spoiler:
If people watched carefully the scenes and did NOT fst-skip through, they might have noticed a small scene of Dee in Bathroom:
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its an opinion, that I believe is also shared amount many.
for me the "writers" are doing a bad job. the whole game lacks the eroticism that is needed to feel anything for the characters.
thats the difference between are good writer and a bad one.
and don't get me started with the rendering. always the same expression. same 3-emotion personalities.
for me DMD is the first 6 months after that it survived because of it.
 
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She loves him, but isn't in love with him. Just like she loves Elena, Jennifer/Georgina, and Olivia. Also, depending on what you chose re pregnancy, she is on the pill. Martin directly asked her if she is on the pill or not.
Well nothing that you said actually matters. She loves him, and she lets him cum inside when she's not on the pill, period. So this is just simply way more than normal swinging. But hey, maybe you just don't have a basic understanding of it ;)
 

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I confirm that!
Either she is on the pill - so no pregnancy at all. Neither from Dad, nor from Martin.
A little spoiler:
If people watched carefully the scenes and did NOT fst-skip through, they might have noticed a small scene of Dee in Bathroom:
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yup, I caught that. I changed the options on D's portrait to see if there was a difference in that scene, and there was.


Well nothing that you said actually matters. She loves him, and she lets him cum inside when she's not on the pill, period. So this is just simply way more than normal swinging. But hey, maybe you just don't have a basic understanding of it ;)
So, the fact I pointed out she is on the pill and Martin asked her if she was, and Hypersever even confirming that she is on the pill, you are still going to say she isn't on the pill? Maybe this is why you didn't understand since apparently you can't read.
 

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As do I which is why despite liking the Martin path, I thought Martin was an asshole in this update and I'm glad there was an option for F to get pissed off with him as he knows how much D cares about Martin.


There is no NTR in the game, so yes, fairly easily. If you mean sharing/swinging with other men, then also yes, 100% avoidable.
Welp that tag is akward than.
 

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Welp that tag is akward than.
indeed - like 90% of all people thinking over here, but unfortunately some few keep bothering the Mods and DEMNAD that there HAS TO BE a ntr tag, until one of the mods just applied it for just to shut them up. (Aplied it AGAINST the rules/definition of F95 - just saying)
Just ignore the tag - it's nothing offial though.

Maybe they should add "horror" tag too, because Dee got a nightmare in this update?

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Thats the definition by F95. See SHARING IS NOT NTR
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source: https://f95zone.to/threads/definition-of-ntr.105935/


IMPORTANT NOTE/DETAIL:
See the part "... unless the MC is fantasizing/jealous about losing ..." ???
This doesn't apply to DMD AT ALL!
 
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indeed - like 90% of all people thinking over here, but unfortunately some few keep bothering the Mods and DEMNAD that there HAS TO BE a ntr tag, until one of the mods just applied it for just to shut them up. (Aplied it AGAINST the rules/definition of F95 - just saying)
Just ignore the tag - it's nothing offial though.

Maybe they should add "horror" tag too, because Dee got a nightmare in this update?

I'm not a fan of Martin myself,but I just dropped the game. Because me bitching isn't gonna change things.

I'm just here for the drama nowadays.
 
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