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Trikus

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It's a shame. After playing part 1 and 2, I never expected what would come in 3 and 4. I don't understand why they don't tell from the beginning what they plan to do, so that we don't fall in love with a story that was not what it seemed. In ch 5 it is likely that D is going to work in a brothel
MrDots laid out a list of content all the way back at the start of this game and "MMF (optional)" was one of the tags. Literally the only tag that has never (and will never) happened is the bestiality tag. The compromise was D getting a pet so the dog is there, it just won't get in on the action.
 
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What I also dislike about the Martin path is the tone of the conversations between Dee and Martin:
"Make me your slut"
"Fuck me like the slut I am"
"I am going to destroy your tight asshole"

Quite a change from the innocent girl in Chapter 1.

For my main playthrough I am on the Elena and Jennifer path and there the conversation is much more in line with the original Dee from Chapter 1. Obviously she became more open sexually but some of the innocence and uncertainty is still there. The conversations with Martin are out of character.
As someone who doesn't mind the Martin path, I too found the conversation between him and D a bit out of character, with him being quite a dick for most of the night. D on the other hand is learning her kinks and she has found she likes dirty talk. You are right she has changed, but that is because she has been encouraged to explore what she likes since she has been with F, when she was sheltered when she was with her mom. Elena tries the dirty talk at times, but not always and Jennifer is less experienced than D.
 

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In my opinion in this version was time to insert a perfect cross-over with "Sunshine Love", at the Sunshine Bay hotel.
 
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Seriously? People liked chapter 1?
It was all:
F: "Nooo i'm scared to fuck my daughter, but she make me super horny"
D: "Nooo dick scares me, but i want to fuck it"
It made me cringe a lot and almost dropped this.
How many times we got as updates another blowjob but from a different angle? Or "today i will rub your pussy with a different finger"?
 

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As someone who doesn't mind the Martin path, I too found the conversation between him and D a bit out of character, with him being quite a dick for most of the night. D on the other hand is learning her kinks and she has found she likes dirty talk. You are right she has changed, but that is because she has been encouraged to explore what she likes since she has been with F, when she was sheltered when she was with her mom. Elena tries the dirty talk at times, but not always and Jennifer is less experienced than D.
Talking dirty is one thing, but it doesn't have to be disrespectful like it is with Martin.

I much prefer Elena's version of talking dirty.
 
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Talking dirty is one thing, but it doesn't have to be disrespectful like it is with Martin.

I much prefer Elena's version of talking dirty.
As do I which is why despite liking the Martin path, I thought Martin was an asshole in this update and I'm glad there was an option for F to get pissed off with him as he knows how much D cares about Martin.

Is the ntr avoidable?
There is no NTR in the game, so yes, fairly easily. If you mean sharing/swinging with other men, then also yes, 100% avoidable.
 

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the martin-path is quite bad. u can read that the writer is not experienced with sharing at all.
it doesn't matter if u want to create "a personality", what we want is a hot sharing scene. so of course the writer need to adjust his personality to be something that works in this scenario.
the whole martin-route is quite superficial and hollow.

the original writer did know how to write, unfortunately, when he left, the game lost it soul.
 
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Anyone who has a basic understanding of swinging knows it isn't NTR, or "cucking".
Well anyone who has a basic understanding of swinging knows that there are no feelings involved. In this case D literally said she loves Martin and like someone said before, she lets him cum inside knowing she's not on the pill so from my basic understanding this is way more than basic swinging.
 

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cuz many see sharing as ntr aka heaven forbid if li has sex with some1 else.
and exactly THAT is the big problem: people THINK.....
I know you know better, so please don't feel personal offence when i am saying "according to their definition (sex with anyone else) it should also count as ntr when Dee having intercourse with Elena. I am NOT on Elena path - so what? Is it now ntr? Dee had sex with someone else?......

People need to grow up and finally learn that ntr is NOT simply "having sex with non-love-interest or see another dick".

Look:
The heck, people call even the long past memory of a sex scene between Dad and Ashley (inSunshine Love) as ntr even MC was a child then and Ashley was NOT a love interest at all that time.
Some people just are too insecure and don't want to see ANY other dick at all -> but "i hate dicks" is more to type than "i hate ntr", i guess
 
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the original writer did know how to write, unfortunately, when he left, the game lost it soul.
well - so you mean since first half of chapter 1. Or in other words: after 6 months out of over 5 years?
Asides that, there is no "THE writer".
Jeff STeel does the writing for character fleshing out.
HearszAM does the story texts AFTER they have decided together how the scenes should look like.
And finally AFTER that, MrDots goes over it and changes and tweaks here and there if he thinks it should be changed.

So i humble ask you to stop acting like THE writer (hearsz) is the one to blame for something YOU don't like.
 

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Well anyone who has a basic understanding of swinging knows that there are no feelings involved. In this case D literally said she loves Martin and like someone said before, she lets him cum inside knowing she's not on the pill so from my basic understanding this is way more than basic swinging.
She loves him, but isn't in love with him. Just like she loves Elena, Jennifer/Georgina, and Olivia. Also, depending on what you chose re pregnancy, she is on the pill. Martin directly asked her if she is on the pill or not.
 

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and exactly THAT is the big problem: people THINK.....
I know you know better, so please don't feel personal offence when i am saying "according to their definition (sex with anyone else) it should also count as ntr when Dee having intercourse with Elena. I am NOT on Elena path - so what? Is it now ntr? Dee had sex with someone else?......

People need to grow up and finally learn that ntr is NOT simply "having sex with non-love-interest or see another dick".

Look:
The heck, people call even the long past memory of a sex scene between Dad and Ashley (inSunshine Love) as ntr even MC was a child then and Ashley was NOT a love interest at all that time.
Some people just are too insecure and don't want to see ANY other dick at all -> but "i hate dicks" is more to type than "i hate ntr", i guess
I remember people complaining about NTR because if you reject Elena, she has a thing with the guy from the countryside. If you reject her, she isn't a love interest.
 

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... what you chose re pregnancy, she is on the pill. Martin directly asked her if she is on the pill or not.
I confirm that!
Either she is on the pill - so no pregnancy at all. Neither from Dad, nor from Martin.
A little spoiler:
If people watched carefully the scenes and did NOT fst-skip through, they might have noticed a small scene of Dee in Bathroom:
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its an opinion, that I believe is also shared amount many.
for me the "writers" are doing a bad job. the whole game lacks the eroticism that is needed to feel anything for the characters.
thats the difference between are good writer and a bad one.
and don't get me started with the rendering. always the same expression. same 3-emotion personalities.
for me DMD is the first 6 months after that it survived because of it.
 
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