when Dee finishes and talk to KoKo this warning appears and the game stops.
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when Dee finishes and talk to KoKo this warning appears and the game stops.
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This game is a fascinating window into adult gaming history. It's fairly well-established that, had Mr. Dots been able to finish the game he began on his own, it would've involved a lot more corruption, probably more sharing, perhaps a dog, and so forth. But Patreon intervened and the goals changed. This has become a game that some (obviously not all) deride as being relentlessly vanilla, which perhaps wasn't the original intention, but has been the clear intention for quite some time. There was some optional sharing, but it was pretty obviously scripted by people whose hearts weren't in it. Sharing to tick off fetish boxes, but that's it.
It is too long. Three chapters were more than enough to tell this story. But we have this instead.
People have identified innumerable reasons why they're tired of this game, but I think they all boil down to one underlying reason: everyone knows how this story is going to end. There hasn't been any drama or conflict suggesting otherwise for years. Yeah, you'll have preg/no-preg options, and various optional partners, but it's going to end with Dad and D together, married by some mechanism, and living happily ever. We've known this since chapter one. It's now chapter four. That's way too long to stretch that story without significant roadblocks, and they've experienced none.
We've been dealing with the same principle antagonist for four chapters now, even though she surpassed the major hurdle and accepted their relationship ages ago. She hasn't changed. Neither have Dad or D. But the actual principle antagonist in this game was always (or at least should have been) the idea that the two of them can't be publicly together. How much time has the story spent addressing that? Almost none. Dad thinks about it a lot, but he doesn't do anything about it. Everyone around them easily and quickly accepts their fucked-up relationship. So where's the tension? Where's the conflict? Where's the story?
There's no way that the endings will satisfy anyone other than the true romance believers. Which is fine, because this game has been exclusively for them for years. But the history of this game, going back to when it was one in which D was going to become much more corrupted and sluttier, is really the history of publicly funded games, in which such scenarios immediately became impossible, and then slowly — via patches and Patreon's slowly eroding interest — became possible once again. But this one got stuck, and now it's here.
It is too long. Three chapters were more than enough to tell this story. But we have this instead.
People have identified innumerable reasons why they're tired of this game, but I think they all boil down to one underlying reason: everyone knows how this story is going to end. There hasn't been any drama or conflict suggesting otherwise for years. Yeah, you'll have preg/no-preg options, and various optional partners, but it's going to end with Dad and D together, married by some mechanism, and living happily ever. We've known this since chapter one. It's now chapter four. That's way too long to stretch that story without significant roadblocks, and they've experienced none.
We've been dealing with the same principle antagonist for four chapters now, even though she surpassed the major hurdle and accepted their relationship ages ago. She hasn't changed. Neither have Dad or D. But the actual principle antagonist in this game was always (or at least should have been) the idea that the two of them can't be publicly together. How much time has the story spent addressing that? Almost none. Dad thinks about it a lot, but he doesn't do anything about it. Everyone around them easily and quickly accepts their fucked-up relationship. So where's the tension? Where's the conflict? Where's the story?
There's no way that the endings will satisfy anyone other than the true romance believers. Which is fine, because this game has been exclusively for them for years. But the history of this game, going back to when it was one in which D was going to become much more corrupted and sluttier, is really the history of publicly funded games, in which such scenarios immediately became impossible, and then slowly — via patches and Patreon's slowly eroding interest — became possible once again. But this one got stuck, and now it's here.
- Jun 30, 2018
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BULLSHIT !
This game is exactly what MrDots had in his mind just at the beginning - maybe even more than that, as he never thought it could be a game over 5 years.
You are right, as far as you say that bestiality (dog) has been discussed at some point (and the game isn't even over yet, just saying). But he NEVER told, that it is definitive to be in there, nor that he had "planned" a game around that.
It would be the same as if i say "I gonna buy me a car - maybe a sports car, maybe a big one, maybe in read color maybe this, maybe that .....". Then i come home, having bought a mercedes which matches nearly everything i told before - just no sports car. Now you would ignore every feature this car got and one and only complain that it's not a sports car like "i PROMISED" to buy.
got it? It's just not fair to go grave digging and keep pulling out some single lines MrDots said 5 years ago somewhere in the very early stage of DmD what COULD be.
Oh - and by the way: you may now start to quote posts here on F95 which were posted years ago, but then you might be told that MrDots NEVER has been on F95 at all - you might guess why MrDots is ongoing ignoring F95 at all. ANd you know why? Just because he thinks there is no reason to talk to people who continously think they know even better and telling HIM what HE has to do.
PS (talking in general and NOT refering to Segnbora):
Some posts over here write something like "The original team" - or "the first writer" or something similar.
Let's tell them that MrDots team NEVER changed. They are 2 people (the same people right from the beginning). There has been a guy helping out the very first updates too. Also Jeff Steel and now Mistress Elememntal helped to flesh out some scenes and story backgrounds - but still the core team (MrDots and HearszAM) never changed since. So every talk like "The team changed and the game went worse" is absolute and 100% BULLSHIT.
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I loved seeing this in Melody
Tho back then, kinda sucked that from all the bonus short stories rendered (I think they were six) 2 of them (again if I remember correctly) didn't have text, since due to time constrains they couldn't be added in time. I wish then that the text would have at least be available as a txt even.
Hope that doesn't happen with DmD eventually.
I can't wait to see what scenarios can come out as What if!
Regardless, DmD is one of my fave games, since 0.0.1, back when this whole VN style of games began to be exploited
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if i use lain's for ch 1 & 2 will the save be compatible with ch 3 with your mod onward?
- Jun 10, 2017
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- Mar 6, 2019
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False excuses because:
1) For first I'm not saying that the Love path must be deleted from the game I'm just saying that there is a missing path that was the one I was following!!
2) the game is made in different chapters... (so it is very easy to change the parental relationship to adapting to that hypothetical patreon rule)
3) the game was quite in the patreon page since chapter 3 (so the Martin sharing path was not banned by patreon rules)
4) Very easy and fast change text dialogs the chapters where F is the father and D is the daughter with different parental relationship if this is the problem (but isn't)
5) There are a lot older games with incest that still have patreon active even some of them are marked as abandoned due F95 rules (but not really abandoned) in my signature there is "THE TYRANT" (just one example)
and you know perfectly that the CH1 and CH2 was completed and the Patreon administrators have NOT BANNED that chapters-
They simply can't ban games that was completed before the rule changing!
The ban is not for the incest problem because the 2 chapters was completed before that.... and the third chapter was in the Patreon page too..
ONLY WHEN IN THE CHAPER 3 THE WRITER WAS FORCED TO CHANGE (maybe a patreon poll?) suddenly there was this fake ban news and at the same time the writer has lost his enthusiasm in the story.
So the excuse that the game was banned from patreon due to incest rule is a BIG FAKE and makes no sense ...
it is simply an excuse to justify the changing of the course of JUST ONE of the plots of the artistic enthusiastic vision of the original inspired author ...
...the same plot that me and many other supporters was following... and this thread there is the prove that blaming at the developer for the change is ABSOLUTELY justified!!!
I repeat I don't want delete the love path (for the romance lover)... why someone has deleted my path?
The part where Dee fuck with BBC is already in the story.... and she was very very happy to fuck with Martin... she cummed multiple times with the BBC inside her pussy and anus
The truth is that the original spirit of the author (story-writer) of this (was) great game has been changed
(I have read that the writer has been in this thread. but I'm not sure) ... and now he was forced to stop the real spirit of this story and maybe the author is the same and is obvious that he lost the enthusiasm... because the story was about a father that want to exhibit his trophy daughter with patience after a very slow gradually corrupt her as a sex-bomb at the parties to swing her with his friends that are also fathers.. in order to fuck with their daughters
today it turns out that he has lost the enthusiasm to write ...
Of course he has lost his enthusiasm ... and maybe he is still the original writer with no more enthusiasm ...
when this happens it is better to abandon the story because the first 2 chapters are perfect and the F with love and patience gradually corrupted D and to exhibit her in the parties as the trophy daughter that he has tamed with so much effort and patience and now he fucks in all her holes and is proud to take her to the parties with his friend swingers!
This is the original story!
F invites his married friends to also corrupt them who become envious that he can fuck his daughter without problem.. so that his friends are also enticed to let him fuck their daughters so they will be able fuck DEE in all her holes too.
Perfect sharing plot!
This story was great!
--- and now is dead for straight swinging lovers! What a Pity!
I wish all the best for all of you that are ROMANCE LOVER in porno games
(personally i think that love and sex are totally different things that can coexist only when you are young... suddenly as the years go by you will discover that this is not the case)
Love is Love
Sex is just Sex!
- Mar 6, 2019
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I agree with you
a game MUST HAVE DIFFERENT PATH
AND THIS GAME WAS WITH 2 MAIN PATHS...
The best path for porno lovers has been deleted with no reason!
- Aug 28, 2021
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Totally agree with you
a great game must have different paths for romance lovers but also for adults and fathers that does no more believe in the love childish stories
and this game was great in the second chapter!
After that delusional disappointing
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Relax.
Evidently not, by his own words. And there's nothing wrong with that. Over this long a development, I'm hardly surprised that things changed. I gather that you don't like that the aforementioned words exist and can be compared to the game as it currently exists, but they do and so they can.
- Jan 26, 2021
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Hyperserver is a member of the community team...
He has direct access to the dev team...
I think he knows what he is talking about...
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I know. But for him to be correct about this, he has to reliably assert that, in the oft-quoted game preview, Mr. Dots was not only lying, but that Hyperserver was inside his mind back then (before he was on the team) and knew he was lying.
Or, there's the much more reasonable suggestion that Mr. Dots changed his mind. It was, after all, a very long time ago. I mean, I was supporting the game way back then. I changed my mind as well. It happens. It's no big deal.
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You have an interesting argument here, of course.)
But in my opinion, everything is easier. The game has been around for a long time. And to have so much patience, strength, freshness, while continuing to compose is VERY interesting, quite difficult. Respect to the author (creators) of the game for this long journey.
Unfortunately, obviously the fantasy ends, the guys are just tired. But they fail to create a new successful project, so they drag this one on as long as they can.
But in my opinion, everything is easier. The game has been around for a long time. And to have so much patience, strength, freshness, while continuing to compose is VERY interesting, quite difficult. Respect to the author (creators) of the game for this long journey.
Unfortunately, obviously the fantasy ends, the guys are just tired. But they fail to create a new successful project, so they drag this one on as long as they can.
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I can't answer that. I'm not part of their team.
Fact is the game is now as it is and the constant whining about what could have been isn't going to change anything about it.
The main story is going to be done with the next update and yet we still have people here dreaming about how Dee is gonna get turned into a cum bucket and gangbanged by 20 BBCs at the same time.
This is not going to happen.
I think it's time to accept that and move on.
Maybe something "more spicy" is going to be in the "what ifs". They are non-canon so it's not really relevant to the story.
- Mar 6, 2019
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your really are talking with me about my abilities?
is your a personal attack to me? I have found your statement very offensive to me!
I'm talking about the game i suggest you to do the same with more respect of the other users!
the lack of the developer you are asking for is related to
the BBCs missing path with Martin and the party where F exhibit D with his friends and F share D in the dancing party
F evidently is proud of the fact that he can fuck D without problems
but that path was abandoned and the developer has lost his enthusiasm... I have read this in this thread!
cheers
Wrong again
here in the chapter 2
This is Rachel... she is F's wife
with Frank
this is for sure NTR
and it is not avoidable
I perfectly know the difference between NTR and sharing...
but usually in this forum when in a game other cocks appear besides the one of the MC.. even if for me this is not always NTR can be considered as NTR too.
here the Mc's wife fucks with another man! - NTR!!
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I'm actually not complaining about that. I don't know that I would've preferred that version of the game, and it's certainly not hard to find those hypotheticals elsewhere. My only actual complaint is that almost nothing of consequence (to the core father-daughter relationship) has happened for a very long time. The "let me read the Wikipedia entry on farming"-style padding was, and remains, bad enough, and that's why I ended my support; it had nothing to do with corruption or adding more potential partners to the game, about which I didn't care then and don't care now. But if you're not going to do anything disruptive with (or to) that relationship, then there's no reason to keep producing chapters. Again: people have known how this was going to end for a very, very long time now. Nothing that's happened in chapter four has contributed to or enhanced that ending.
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I think the game could/should have ended with Chapter 2. When F and D moved to their new home that was the perfect time to end it.
Unfortunately the game was too successful and they added more chapters.
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I agree the game ended in the chapter 2 or max in the middle of chapter 3.
I can understand if D is pregnant require more chapters and the love path must be dominant path at the start of the pregnancy but when the sexual desire rise up a good sharing event would be great!
Perfection (even is just a dream) should be that her baby will a black girl!
great twist!
The skill of a great story writer is in the twist that make interesting the story... after that I don't care about NTR or sharing... but i vote for a NOT BORING VN!
- Dec 4, 2017
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Did u actually ever read the story ?
She's the ex of the MC for many years, she cheats on her current partner (which is not the MC), so no it's not ntr.
Also this game was always a lovestory even back in 2016, u can choose to spice things up with some sharing but that's all.
This was never about making D a slut, F a cuck, or some of the other things some here wanted.