Segnbora

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Hyperserver is a member of the community team...
He has direct access to the dev team...
I think he knows what he is talking about...
I know. But for him to be correct about this, he has to reliably assert that, in the oft-quoted game preview, Mr. Dots was not only lying, but that Hyperserver was inside his mind back then (before he was on the team) and knew he was lying.

Or, there's the much more reasonable suggestion that Mr. Dots changed his mind. It was, after all, a very long time ago. I mean, I was supporting the game way back then. I changed my mind as well. It happens. It's no big deal.
 
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You have an interesting argument here, of course.)
But in my opinion, everything is easier. The game has been around for a long time. And to have so much patience, strength, freshness, while continuing to compose is VERY interesting, quite difficult. Respect to the author (creators) of the game for this long journey.
Unfortunately, obviously the fantasy ends, the guys are just tired. But they fail to create a new successful project, so they drag this one on as long as they can.
 

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I know. But for him to be correct about this, he has to reliably assert that, in the oft-quoted game preview, Mr. Dots was not only lying, but that Hyperserver was inside his mind back then (before he was on the team) and knew he was lying.

Or, there's the much more reasonable suggestion that Mr. Dots changed his mind. It was, after all, a very long time ago.
I can't answer that. I'm not part of their team.

Fact is the game is now as it is and the constant whining about what could have been isn't going to change anything about it.
The main story is going to be done with the next update and yet we still have people here dreaming about how Dee is gonna get turned into a cum bucket and gangbanged by 20 BBCs at the same time.
This is not going to happen.

I think it's time to accept that and move on.

Maybe something "more spicy" is going to be in the "what ifs". They are non-canon so it's not really relevant to the story.
 

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So to accuse the developer to have "a specific lack" - shows the only lack is about your ability to think before you post.
your really are talking with me about my abilities?
is your a personal attack to me? I have found your statement very offensive to me!
I'm talking about the game i suggest you to do the same with more respect of the other users!
the lack of the developer you are asking for is related to
the BBCs missing path with Martin and the party where F exhibit D with his friends and F share D in the dancing party

F evidently is proud of the fact that he can fuck D without problems
but that path was abandoned and the developer has lost his enthusiasm... I have read this in this thread!

cheers
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as there is no NTR in any of MrDots games, it's obsolete.
If you mean "sharing" -> YES, it is 100% avoidable
(NTR tag is wrong btw - just some people over here still don't know the difference between NTR and sharing)
Wrong again
here in the chapter 2
This is Rachel... she is F's wife
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with Frank
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this is for sure NTR
and it is not avoidable
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I perfectly know the difference between NTR and sharing...
but usually in this forum when in a game other cocks appear besides the one of the MC.. even if for me this is not always NTR can be considered as NTR too.

here the Mc's wife fucks with another man! - NTR!!
 

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Fact is the game is now as it is and the constant whining about what could have been isn't going to change anything about it.
I'm actually not complaining about that. I don't know that I would've preferred that version of the game, and it's certainly not hard to find those hypotheticals elsewhere. My only actual complaint is that almost nothing of consequence (to the core father-daughter relationship) has happened for a very long time. The "let me read the Wikipedia entry on farming"-style padding was, and remains, bad enough, and that's why I ended my support; it had nothing to do with corruption or adding more potential partners to the game, about which I didn't care then and don't care now. But if you're not going to do anything disruptive with (or to) that relationship, then there's no reason to keep producing chapters. Again: people have known how this was going to end for a very, very long time now. Nothing that's happened in chapter four has contributed to or enhanced that ending.
 

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I'm actually not complaining about that. I don't know that I would've preferred that version of the game, and it's certainly not hard to find those hypotheticals elsewhere. My only actual complaint is that almost nothing of consequence (to the core father-daughter relationship) has happened for a very long time. The "let me read the Wikipedia entry on farming"-style padding was, and remains, bad enough, and that's why I ended my support; it had nothing to do with corruption or adding more potential partners to the game, about which I didn't care then and don't care now. But if you're not going to do anything disruptive with (or to) that relationship, then there's no reason to keep producing chapters. Again: people have known how this was going to end for a very, very long time now. Nothing that's happened in chapter four has contributed to or enhanced that ending.
I think the game could/should have ended with Chapter 2. When F and D moved to their new home that was the perfect time to end it.
Unfortunately the game was too successful and they added more chapters.
 

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Again: people have known how this was going to end for a very, very long time now. Nothing that's happened in chapter four has contributed to or enhanced that ending.
I agree the game ended in the chapter 2 or max in the middle of chapter 3.

I can understand if D is pregnant require more chapters and the love path must be dominant path at the start of the pregnancy but when the sexual desire rise up a good sharing event would be great!

Perfection (even is just a dream) should be that her baby will a black girl!:devilish:

great twist!
The skill of a great story writer is in the twist that make interesting the story... after that I don't care about NTR or sharing... but i vote for a NOT BORING VN!
 

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here the Mc's wife fucks with another man! - NTR!!
Did u actually ever read the story ?
She's the ex of the MC for many years, she cheats on her current partner (which is not the MC), so no it's not ntr.

Also this game was always a lovestory even back in 2016, u can choose to spice things up with some sharing but that's all.
This was never about making D a slut, F a cuck, or some of the other things some here wanted.
 

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if i use lain's for ch 1 & 2 will the save be compatible with ch 3 with your mod onward?
It won't matter since the saves from Chap 2 won't work with Chap 3 due to issues in the game so Chap 3 has you has answer a few questions to create a new save to be used in Chaps 3 & 4.

But I will also say that my mods for Chaps 3 & 4 were based around Lain's mods so I didn't have to due the Scene Gallery work (less work for me) until Lain left the AVN scene probably due to how toxic it has become so for the past few releases the Scene Gallery work has been done by me.
 
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Wrong again
here in the chapter 2
This is Rachel... she is F's wife
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with Frank
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this is for sure NTR
and it is not avoidable
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I perfectly know the difference between NTR and sharing...
but usually in this forum when in a game other cocks appear besides the one of the MC.. even if for me this is not always NTR can be considered as NTR too.

here the Mc's wife fucks with another man! - NTR!!
Wrong again, Rachel is Mc' EX-wife and she isn't a love interest.

Of course you could say it's still NTR with her new husband. But who cares?
 
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I know. But for him to be correct about this, he has to reliably assert that, in the oft-quoted game preview, Mr. Dots was not only lying, but that Hyperserver was inside his mind back then (before he was on the team) and knew he was lying.

Or, there's the much more reasonable suggestion that Mr. Dots changed his mind. It was, after all, a very long time ago. I mean, I was supporting the game way back then. I changed my mind as well. It happens. It's no big deal.
Jeff Steel (one of the writers) has said that MrDots wanted beastiality content, but he and the other writer doesn't want it. This is all public knowledge, as it is posted in this thread. Steel and the Hearsz basically overuled Dots on his own game.

Some quotes from Steel:
https://f95zone.to/threads/dating-my-daughter-ch-1-4-v0-35-mrdots-games.597/post-2817668

From 2019:
Let me put this to (semi-)rest. MDots is the one who put forth the “sex with a dog” idea. Hearsz and I differ. Then a lot of fans differ based on “lack of agency” on the part of the dog - similar to why we don’t have underage sex, due to lack of agency.

Currently MDots has not countered the no votes from Hearsz and myself.
In 2020, Steel said beastiality isn't off the table. Although now, it appears that it is.
https://f95zone.to/threads/dating-my-daughter-ch-1-4-v0-35-mrdots-games.597/post-3010574
1. Bestiality is not off the table.
2. Don’t know yet how it will manifest (with D; not with D)
3. Don’t know when it will manifest (though almost certainly not in Chapter 3 - though don’t put that in stone)
4. Just my opinion, but likely to be a dog
5. A dog will appear in the next release, but don’t know if that dog will have the bestiality role - or if that dog will just be a day-player (btw, the dog scene coming up is my idea and I am jazzed to see how MDots renders that scene)
https://f95zone.to/threads/dating-my-daughter-ch-1-4-v0-35-mrdots-games.597/post-3880111
bestiality and mmf were both in the original sexual kinks l on Patreon Way back when. So this was MDots ideas before Hearsz, Gaetano, or I came in board.
And as you note, the old game game preview laid out what the game was meant to be. MrDots didn't change his mind, he just got overruled by his writers. He lets them come up with the story, and he makes the art.
 
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Did u actually ever read the story ?
She's the ex of the MC for many years, she cheats on her current partner (which is not the MC), so no it's not ntr.
1) In a harem game when another cock appears is NTR.

2) NTR is Netori, Netorare and also Netorase ... sharing is a form of NTR!
all games with sharing tags comes also with cheating and NTR

this game is tagged as NTR, Cheating and Sharing!
also exhibitionism, group sex, swinging

The ex wife was the wife of the MC = NTR

so for sureafter all that tags

if this was only a a vanilla game with harem the only cock visibile should be the MC one!

The story is great just because it was writen very well up to CH2!
 

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False excuses because:
1) For first I'm not saying that the Love path must be deleted from the game I'm just saying that there is a missing path that was the one I was following!!
incest actually IS against patreons rules - just they SEEM to not care about anymore
2) the game is made in different chapters... (so it is very easy to change the parental relationship to adapting to that hypothetical patreon rule)
what on earth have chapters to do with patreon's incest policy?
3) the game was quite in the patreon page since chapter 3 (so the Martin sharing path was not banned by patreon rules)
again wrong - the game was in chapter ONE as it had to be removed. Actually the removement was the reason they started Melody game (you can look there when Melody started)
4) Very easy and fast change text dialogs the chapters where F is the father and D is the daughter with different parental relationship if this is the problem (but isn't)
... sure - change the story and all is fine? You even know that ALL incest family relationships are forbidden on patreon? Going bach to the good old "roommate" would destroy the story though.
5) There are a lot older games with incest that still have patreon active even some of them are marked as abandoned due F95 rules (but not really abandoned) in my signature there is "THE TYRANT" (just one example)
They are just lucky not to be reported earlier.
and you know perfectly that the CH1 and CH2 was completed and the Patreon administrators have NOT BANNED that chapters-
They simply can't ban games that was completed before the rule changing!

The ban is not for the incest problem because the 2 chapters was completed before that.... and the third chapter was in the Patreon page too..
this is just absolutely BULLSHIT. It doesn't matter what content is "finished" ad what content isn't. Also agin: DmD has been banned during CHAPTER 1 !!!
ONLY WHEN IN THE CHAPER 3 THE WRITER WAS FORCED TO CHANGE (maybe a patreon poll?) suddenly there was this fake ban news and at the same time the writer has lost his enthusiasm in the story.
dude - just scroll back and you will see that this bullshit-talk started even before chapter 3 even started.
it is simply an excuse to justify the changing of the course of JUST ONE of the plots of the artistic enthusiastic vision of the original inspired author ...
...the same plot that me and many other supporters was following... and this thread there is the prove that blaming at the developer for the change is ABSOLUTELY justified!!!
The original author is still the same as it is right now (HearszAM) - the author never changed. Just those people "helping out" right at the beginning or during the game changed - but even as they were involved, they just did what MrDots wanted them to do.
I repeat I don't want delete the love path (for the romance lover)... why someone has deleted my path?
stop taking drugs mate - the love path is already in there - it was always in there and also it's the main path overall.
The truth is that the original spirit of the author (story-writer) of this (was) great game has been changed
(I have read that the writer has been in this thread. but I'm not sure) ... and now he was forced to stop the real spirit of this story and maybe the author is the same and is obvious that he lost the enthusiasm... because the story was about a father that want to exhibit his trophy daughter with patience after a very slow gradually corrupt her as a sex-bomb at the parties to swing her with his friends that are also fathers.. in order to fuck with their daughters
Nice that you know more than we know - actually MrDots and HearszAM were NOT on F95, and they actually told us to stop posting over here as it doesn't lead to anywhere because people will never listen at all.
(Note: i post nevertheless as there are a few normal people over here who deserver information)
This is the original story!
F invites his married friends to also corrupt them who become envious that he can fuck his daughter without problem.. so that his friends are also enticed to let him fuck their daughters so they will be able fuck DEE in all her holes too.
Perfect sharing plot!
really no clue where you caught up that BS. For sure not from any of MrDots team or even from himself.

I don't know where you got all that info - maybe you had some weird dreams - i don't know.
But nearly everything you told is absolute bullshit and all you need to proof that, is to scroll back and compare (e.g. Melody start etc etc).

You are right in ONE point - ONLY one point: the writer (and MrDots) is kind of worn out about DmD - quite natural after 5 years imho - and that's why they said, that they missed the best point to cut DmD. It's fault from which they learned and such will never happen again to any of their games.
 
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incest actually IS against patreons rules - just they SEEM to not care about anymore
It was not at the time of CH2 (2018)
.. sure - change the story and all is fine? You even know that ALL incest family relationships are forbidden on patreon? Going bach to the good old "roommate" would destroy the story though.
and Spellbook? the Tyrant? a thousands of game that are on the patreon?
 
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