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This is disappointing coming from a Mr Dot team member. Makes me feel like the story got co-opted midway. That's the kind of shit that made me stop supporting you guys. Simply no respect at all for a part of your supporters. Instead of an interesting story with choices and twist and turns we got a straight line, no deviation.

Sure the story is about MC and his Daughter, but the name was "Dating my Daughter" not "Dating, marrying and impregnating my daughter and his friends as I'm the only man existing". There was clear corruption thread (the whole leveling system popping up once in a while) With the possibility expanding based on certain kink. But in the end Vanilla is the least controversial flavor and you got bills to pay.

Is there a lot of Mormons here? Looking at how much VN basically do the whole sister-wives thing It looks a lot like y'all just want to move to Utah and have half a dozen sister-wives.
well - basicially we have a 100% non-ntr and non-sharing policy in general.
Long time ago as Jeff Steel was still onboard, HE was the one who convinced MrDots to include that sharing-crap.
The team agreed, and we went for a try - and it failed. You know all those rage and senseless discussions. All the hate and fights. All the bashing and kink-shaming.....
We just get sooo sick of all that, so we went back to our roots (no ntr - no sharing) in our future updates.
Go and thank those, who got greedy and kept demanding and demanding for more.
You know what you get, when you dmand? right - you get NOTHING.

The people raged and told us how many supporters we will lose, because their group is soooo big.
You know what? we might have lost a few - maybe a dozen, maybe 2-3 dozen....
... But same time now overall we have more active supporters than we had ever before when counting SS and patreon together.
So what now?
Oh boiiiii - they were wrong. Seems they aren't that important as they think. Maybe tehy arent that many as it seems.
People - 90% of all players over here aren't our supporters at all - So (talking to all out there who might feel "ignored" because we didn't add Martin content) PLEASE stop thinking you are important in ANY way. We tried it once to listen, but we regret bitterly - so we will not listen anymore and do as we want - take it... or leave it.
 

Hyperserver

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Yep
Interesting though I see you don't deny the milking since August though and go on a personal attack :ROFLMAO:
same as you don't deny to come over here just to incite.

I just said that you are reliable - that's no "attack"

There is no reason to argue with you - all know exactly who and how you are.
Also there is no reason for me even try to deny anything posted by a Troll
 

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Oh boiiiii - they were wrong. Seems they aren't that important as they think. Maybe tehy arent that many as it seems.
People - 90% of all players over here aren't our supporters at all - So (talking to all out there who might feel "ignored" because we didn't add Martin content) PLEASE stop thinking you are important in ANY way. We tried it once to listen, but we regret bitterly - so we will not listen anymore and do as we want - take it... or leave it.
I'm not in your discord, I'm not in your SS/Patreon page.

You are acting as if we forced a full cuckold plotline. From my perspective it's the opposite. Your toxic fandom HATED having a choice they wouldn't follow. So you caved in and went bland rice mode. Of course it won't hurt you financially. Bland rice is a staple food. I like variety, I like being surprised. I like having choice. Fuck me right?

That being said I'm not gonna harrass the dev. I'm saying my peace here in a free to use forum that you don't control. Yes it's disappointing, Yes it mean I will personnally not support you. I'm not a union rep, I don't represent anyone other than myself and my wallet.

Not happy with this discussion. You know the way out. You don't own this forum.
 
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slackster

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:ROFLMAO:
We tried it once to listen, but we regret bitterly - so we will not listen anymore and do as we want - take it... or leave it.
And yet the subscribestar and Patreon numbers keep declining
Then:
And now:
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Looks like there are more and more people voting with their wallets
 

Hyperserver

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:ROFLMAO:

And yet the subscribestar and Patreon numbers keep declining
Then:
And now:
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Looks like there are more and more people voting with their wallets
and? what does that prove? Patreons getting less, Subscribestar growing (which isn't shown at all).
together 5458 right now.
Few months ago we had around 5.000
If i don't fail in math that big, i guess we actually raise in supporters
 
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slackster

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and? what does that prove? Patreons getting less, Subscribestar growing (which isn't shown at all).
together 5458 right now.
Few months ago we had around 5.000
If i don't fail in math that big, i guess we actually raise in supporters
lol maths is hard
Back in July you had 5987 combined subscribers (from my link)
In December you have 5458 from my updated screenshots
a 9% drop in 5 months
and you never paused subscriptions when you were not working on this game (DmD)
Some would call that unethical
I just call it milking

Edit SS numbers went from 3003 in July to 2883 in December
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Hyperserver

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:ROFLMAO:

lol maths is hard
Back in July you had 5987 combined subscribers (from my link)
whow - you know more than we do - you superbrain forget that we didn't have that many Subscribestar supporters back then.
People went over from patreon to SS.
But glad that you are able to know the total amount of our supporter better than we know :unsure:
 

slackster

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whow - you know more than we do - you superbrain forget that we didn't have that many Subscribestar supporters back then.
People went over from patreon to SS.
But glad that you are able to know the total amount of our supporter better than we know :unsure:
lol that was back in 2018 when the game got kicked of Patreon you had zero SS subscribers then
The fact remains both MrDots games have been bleeding subscribers all of this year
I have provided the evidence
And to think looking back through my posts I was one of this games biggest fans- c'est la vie

edit: ah yes the facepalm of impotence and irrefutable evidence
 
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lol that was back in 2018 when the game got kicked of Patreon you had zero SS subscribers then
The fact remains both MrDots games have been bleeding subscribers all of this year
I have provided the evidence
And to think looking back through my posts I was one of this games biggest fans- c'est la vie

edit: ah yes the facepalm of impotence and irrefutable evidence
*sigh - why do i even try? ....
Guess because i still think you can't be THAT dumb......
2018 we were kicked from patreon
2019 we were back on patreon with Melody
same time we were on BuyMeAcoffee with DMD
few months later we switched from BMAC to Humblebundle
2020 we finally started subscribestar (aside patreon which has been still up)

overall we lose patreon subscribers, but we gain Subscribestar members

Just we gain more new on SS than we lose on patreon - hope you now got it
 

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*sigh - why do i even try? ....
Guess because i still think you can't be THAT dumb......
2018 we were kicked from patreon
2019 we were back on patreon with Melody
same time we were on BuyMeAcoffee with DMD
few months later we switched from BMAC to Humblebundle
2020 we finally started subscribestar (aside patreon which has been still up)

overall we lose patreon subscribers, but we gain Subscribestar members

Just we gain more new on SS than we lose on patreon - hope you now got it
Not since July (my other screen shots are on my home pc which show a longer decline on the SS numbers)- the Patreon numbers show a decline from a height of about 4230 patreons back in 2018 to 2575 today- a 40% decline and a 5% decline in SS numbers- so it's laughable you brazenly state you are increasing SS numbers
Glad you are not trying to justify charging subscribers for months on not working on DmD
You have that going for you at least
Edit: anyways my flight is boarding Merry Xmas all
 
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the two first chapters where great but then the game went off the rails
i dont care about that cuck sharing shit tell me if the game have endings with the busty lady friend and we can tell the lesbian mom to go fuck herself.
 
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well - basicially we have a 100% non-ntr and non-sharing policy in general.
Long time ago as Jeff Steel was still onboard, HE was the one who convinced MrDots to include that sharing-crap.
The team agreed, and we went for a try - and it failed. You know all those rage and senseless discussions. All the hate and fights. All the bashing and kink-shaming.....
We just get sooo sick of all that, so we went back to our roots (no ntr - no sharing) in our future updates.
Go and thank those, who got greedy and kept demanding and demanding for more.
You know what you get, when you dmand? right - you get NOTHING.

The people raged and told us how many supporters we will lose, because their group is soooo big.
You know what? we might have lost a few - maybe a dozen, maybe 2-3 dozen....
... But same time now overall we have more active supporters than we had ever before when counting SS and patreon together.
So what now?
Oh boiiiii - they were wrong. Seems they aren't that important as they think. Maybe tehy arent that many as it seems.
People - 90% of all players over here aren't our supporters at all - So (talking to all out there who might feel "ignored" because we didn't add Martin content) PLEASE stop thinking you are important in ANY way. We tried it once to listen, but we regret bitterly - so we will not listen anymore and do as we want - take it... or leave it.
I can understand that you align the game according to economic aspects. That first of all as a statement. It is your game and I would not let anyone talk me into it if I make my living from it.
But I do have one question - Was there a difference in the negative reaction between the virtual characters Martin and Ryan?
 

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and you never paused subscriptions when you were not working on this game (DmD)
Some would call that unethical
I just call it milking
So they should pause it every other month while they're working on the other game ? Are you aware of the basic principles of sites like Patreon or SStar ? Do you know there's devs releasing updates maybe 3 times per year and they don't even work on a second game ? Shall they pause subscriptions all the time and only activate it on the months they release an update ? Shall they pay rent and buy food only 3 times per year ? that's not how support works.
I wish people who agree with me on the fact this game became too vanilla, or too mid, not really satisfying either side because it was trying to satisfy everyone, had better arguments.
 

Hyperserver

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I can understand that you align the game according to economic aspects. That first of all as a statement. It is your game and I would not let anyone talk me into it if I make my living from it.
But I do have one question - Was there a difference in the negative reaction between the virtual characters Martin and Ryan?
yes - there is SIGNIFICANT difference.

First up, i do tell this without ANY rating nor do i intend to hint ANYTHING - that's just pure facts because you asked for it:

There was nearly ZERO talk about Ryan or Graham at all, but soley a MASSIVE shitstorm (in both ways) pro and con Martin
 

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So they should pause it every other month while they're working on the other game ? Are you aware of the basic principles of sites like Patreon or SStar ? Do you know there's devs releasing updates maybe 3 times per year and they don't even work on a second game ? Shall they pause subscriptions all the time and only activate it on the months they release an update ? Shall they pay rent and buy food only 3 times per year ? that's not how support works.
I wish people who agree with me on the fact this game became too vanilla, or too mid, not really satisfying either side because it was trying to satisfy everyone, had better arguments.
This is off topic
 

slackster

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So they should pause it every other month while they're working on the other game ? Are you aware of the basic principles of sites like Patreon or SStar ? Do you know there's devs releasing updates maybe 3 times per year and they don't even work on a second game ? Shall they pause subscriptions all the time and only activate it on the months they release an update ? Shall they pay rent and buy food only 3 times per year ? that's not how support works.
I wish people who agree with me on the fact this game became too vanilla, or too mid, not really satisfying either side because it was trying to satisfy everyone, had better arguments.
The team specifically said back in August they were not going to work on any DmD updates at all untill November
The ethical thing would have been to suspend payments on the SS platform
They didn't
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