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Goldy
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Good point here dude, but it's more realist in this way shame they need to changed words because to avoid trouble.
Tell me more about this - I see no way to "Open in Ren'Py" anywhere! I know I'm probably missing a step, or putting the folder in the wrong place or something... a more clear step-by-step would go miles!!!
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I don’t understand the speculation over the BJs. D has already stated her intention to go for it “this time tomorrow night” in 0.16. She feels bad she bailed out of it during the titjob. But maybe you guys didn't watch Brown Bunny.
BJ storm inbound.I think I might as well throw some mini-spoilers since I am here and the countdown has started.
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Linux uploads appear to be all corrupt, tried 3 different download links all which gave me the same identical file. Not fixable with Windows datafiles as the lib/linux/* folder is missing/corrupt.
Code:
$ sha1sum DMDCH2-016-linuxExtrasIncluded-Patched2.bz2
42f81e5ac78059e1ca7d06e738472362b7527d2c DMDCH2-016-linuxExtrasIncluded-Patched2.bz2
$ tar -xvjf DMDCH2-016-linuxExtrasIncluded-Patched2.bz2
DMD-0.16-linux/
DMD-0.16-linux/DMD.CH2.py
DMD-0.16-linux/DMD.CH2.sh
DMD-0.16-linux/game/
DMD-0.16-linux/game/archive.rpa
DMD-0.16-linux/game/archive.rpa_orig
DMD-0.16-linux/game/cache/
DMD-0.16-linux/game/cache/bytecode.rpyb
DMD-0.16-linux/game/cache/pyanalysis.rpyb
DMD-0.16-linux/game/cache/screens.rpyb
DMD-0.16-linux/game/day_A00_0.rpa
DMD-0.16-linux/game/day_A00_0.rpa_orig
DMD-0.16-linux/game/day_A00_1.rpa
bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing.
Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout)
It is possible that the compressed file(s) have become corrupted.
You can use the -tvv option to test integrity of such files.
You can use the `bzip2recover' program to attempt to recover
data from undamaged sections of corrupted files.
tar: Unexpected EOF in archive
tar: Unexpected EOF in archive
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
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Here is the second of some posts I logged over at Patreon. While these are not guarantees of what is to happen, they are some good quality ideas which get consideration:
2017 Wrap-Up - Georgina
Here are some year end thoughts regarding the female characters in the story, continuing with Georgina. Part of this discussion will revolve around the observed themes: (1) Love conquers Fear; (2) Love transcends Societal Prejudice: (3) Coming of Age; and (4) Family.
———
Georgina is the only female character who has a developed relationship with MCMale. Why is that important? Because Georgina is in the position to have a fully developed “love” for MCMale; the other characters would arguably start in an “infatuation” state and are working toward “love” at their own rates. (Although MCFemale has arguably reached the “love” state after a year and a half of VN updates).
Georgina is also the most self assured of the main female characters. Look at her dialogue. More than anyone else, she says what she means without self doubts or subterfuge. Here support for appears to be unconditional - a sign her relationship and feelings for MCMale are indeed stemming from love.
As such, Georgina can be a facilitator in the other relationships - the loving glue that keeps the other relationships from colliding with each other or imploding.
———
(1) Family: we don’t know if Georgina’s parents are alive, but we do know she raised or help raise her sisters. Assuming Georgina can get past the societal issues around group relationships and the relationship of the MCs, Georgina is gold for navigation the impending relationships due to her previous “maternal” situation.
If I am correct, Georgina should be about 28 years old now. (She started at the business some 10 years ago - possibly at age 18). We don’t know how old her sisters are now, but if she stepped in to care for them sometime between 18 and now, I would suggest this started when the sisters were between ages 8-11, putting their current age between 18-21. Interestingly, MC left his family the MCf was 10 - Georgina started caring for her sisters when they were 10; Georgina has a life overlap of care taking that MCm never had.
Georgina in the last update had to leave her time with a MCMale due to family issues. Georgina is thus still involved with her family to some extent. In this VN, there could easily be a scene where Georgina takes MCMale (and others) to a family event - family dinner - birthday or engagement of one of her sisters - college performance of one of them. Her sisters might already know all about MCMale through the stories by Georgina.
Think of the pleasant family scenes from films like “It’s a Wonderful Life” or “Little Women” - (sorry, in the Christmas season I have thoughts movies with family seasonal scenes). Perhaps this is the family life Georgina shows MCMale - family joy, love, and joviality.
I would recommend a “family” aspect with Georgina that should be considered is whether or not she is ready for children of her own. While Georgina has “unconditional” love, this drive to have kids as she is getting to her 30’s could run in the background, putting conditions on her unconditional love.
———
(2) Coming of Age: while she is not Coming of Age, Georgina has cared for sisters who came of age. Georgina can be a guide or mentor for the other younger characters. She can be the Mr. Miyagi to MCFemale’s Daniel Larisso.
———
(3-4) Love conquers Fear and Societal Prejudices: Georgina seems the least fearful of characters, but if she is to play into a group/harem ending, she will have to deal with the pending societal prejudices.
One easy fix is to play on her experiences as a model. I mentioned in a previous post that her experiences as a model on location could have led her to some rather liberating experiences. Google things now, and you can pull up multiple articles of sexual assault of models in the industry. Then there is a series of articles about successful established photographers having sex with models - some of it instigated by models and most by photographers. However, I have to believe there are also model to model hookups - especially when shooting on location and everyone is snaked up in the same hotel.
Perhaps Georgina has already had mfm and fmf hookups, and even living for a week or two in those kinds of relationships. Perhaps some of this continued on when the models returned back home after the location shooting. This prior experience could help Georgina’s acceptance of polyamory without needing a step-by-step conversion I anticipate MCFemale will need.
———
In summary, Georgina offers some great strengths in the Family and Coming of Age themes. In addition, she could also have applicable experiences in the area of group relationships. I would suggest, as a source of conflict, that she have issues with her “biological clock” - and not just how it relates to kids but also to her actual career which, notoriously for female models, does not favor the older female.
(Oh, BTW, like Jennifer, I would anticipate Georgina would be trying to contact MCMale to see how things are going and offering support.)
2017 Wrap-Up - Georgina
Here are some year end thoughts regarding the female characters in the story, continuing with Georgina. Part of this discussion will revolve around the observed themes: (1) Love conquers Fear; (2) Love transcends Societal Prejudice: (3) Coming of Age; and (4) Family.
———
Georgina is the only female character who has a developed relationship with MCMale. Why is that important? Because Georgina is in the position to have a fully developed “love” for MCMale; the other characters would arguably start in an “infatuation” state and are working toward “love” at their own rates. (Although MCFemale has arguably reached the “love” state after a year and a half of VN updates).
Georgina is also the most self assured of the main female characters. Look at her dialogue. More than anyone else, she says what she means without self doubts or subterfuge. Here support for appears to be unconditional - a sign her relationship and feelings for MCMale are indeed stemming from love.
As such, Georgina can be a facilitator in the other relationships - the loving glue that keeps the other relationships from colliding with each other or imploding.
———
(1) Family: we don’t know if Georgina’s parents are alive, but we do know she raised or help raise her sisters. Assuming Georgina can get past the societal issues around group relationships and the relationship of the MCs, Georgina is gold for navigation the impending relationships due to her previous “maternal” situation.
If I am correct, Georgina should be about 28 years old now. (She started at the business some 10 years ago - possibly at age 18). We don’t know how old her sisters are now, but if she stepped in to care for them sometime between 18 and now, I would suggest this started when the sisters were between ages 8-11, putting their current age between 18-21. Interestingly, MC left his family the MCf was 10 - Georgina started caring for her sisters when they were 10; Georgina has a life overlap of care taking that MCm never had.
Georgina in the last update had to leave her time with a MCMale due to family issues. Georgina is thus still involved with her family to some extent. In this VN, there could easily be a scene where Georgina takes MCMale (and others) to a family event - family dinner - birthday or engagement of one of her sisters - college performance of one of them. Her sisters might already know all about MCMale through the stories by Georgina.
Think of the pleasant family scenes from films like “It’s a Wonderful Life” or “Little Women” - (sorry, in the Christmas season I have thoughts movies with family seasonal scenes). Perhaps this is the family life Georgina shows MCMale - family joy, love, and joviality.
I would recommend a “family” aspect with Georgina that should be considered is whether or not she is ready for children of her own. While Georgina has “unconditional” love, this drive to have kids as she is getting to her 30’s could run in the background, putting conditions on her unconditional love.
———
(2) Coming of Age: while she is not Coming of Age, Georgina has cared for sisters who came of age. Georgina can be a guide or mentor for the other younger characters. She can be the Mr. Miyagi to MCFemale’s Daniel Larisso.
———
(3-4) Love conquers Fear and Societal Prejudices: Georgina seems the least fearful of characters, but if she is to play into a group/harem ending, she will have to deal with the pending societal prejudices.
One easy fix is to play on her experiences as a model. I mentioned in a previous post that her experiences as a model on location could have led her to some rather liberating experiences. Google things now, and you can pull up multiple articles of sexual assault of models in the industry. Then there is a series of articles about successful established photographers having sex with models - some of it instigated by models and most by photographers. However, I have to believe there are also model to model hookups - especially when shooting on location and everyone is snaked up in the same hotel.
Perhaps Georgina has already had mfm and fmf hookups, and even living for a week or two in those kinds of relationships. Perhaps some of this continued on when the models returned back home after the location shooting. This prior experience could help Georgina’s acceptance of polyamory without needing a step-by-step conversion I anticipate MCFemale will need.
———
In summary, Georgina offers some great strengths in the Family and Coming of Age themes. In addition, she could also have applicable experiences in the area of group relationships. I would suggest, as a source of conflict, that she have issues with her “biological clock” - and not just how it relates to kids but also to her actual career which, notoriously for female models, does not favor the older female.
(Oh, BTW, like Jennifer, I would anticipate Georgina would be trying to contact MCMale to see how things are going and offering support.)
Does anyone know the repercussions for who to get a ride to school with?
The one where you choose D, Adam or let Elena choose?
I checked the guide and don't see anything on it.
The one where you choose D, Adam or let Elena choose?
I checked the guide and don't see anything on it.
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Not sure why and I don't really care enough to fix it but I know I played and finished ch 1, but when I try and play ch 2 I have no save. Clearly it's a known issue because there is a comment about it at the beginning of the game telling people they have to pick the choices from chapter one. I don't have time for that. I'll just stick with DoD, less bullshit to deal with and I don't have to wonder if my save will work after every new update.
So.
1 -> download the Ren´py 2 -> instal it 3 -> Create folder, like mine ( Renpy ) 4 -> Create (inside the folder) new game folder, like a mine DMD -> Put downloaded Dating my... inside the DMD folder 5 -> Open Ren´py 6 -> In Ren´py, lower right corner is preferences, push that 7 -> Project directory, push that 8 -> New window opens, select the renpy folder, inside that DMD folder, don´t go far as dating my folder JUST THE DMD 9 -> Push Return 10 -> Under PROJECTS should be the game, click that and push the launch project. And every new game that you want to play create new folder inside the Renpy folder and make the same steps. This all takes like 30sec, so it´s kinda quick to do even you have to do it in every new game you want to play.
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I recall when this creator first started, and he put out a call for assistance. I actually helped create the hospital scenario, though he heavily edited the availability of choice I wanted to include. Sadly, for as much I was enjoying the game, the reduction in choices in subsequent events was disappointing.
Still, seeing what he's accomplished now, it's pretty good.
Still, seeing what he's accomplished now, it's pretty good.
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As someone who's been using Windows since the very beginning - I really don't think "worked out of the box" can be applied very well until *really* recently.
As to Linux - it's cheap - does everything a modern OS should and doesn't keep fucking up your settings by arbitrarily trying to force updates down your throat. But that's all OT really.
As to running DmD under Linux - I always just pulled the Linux binaries from another game and renamed the relevant sh/script files (two of them IIRC). Pretty simple. I'll package that up and stick it somewhere in a bit.
Edit: Added links
Chapter 1 Linux files -
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Chapter 2 Linux files -
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Just unzip those into your DMD directory and run the shell and it should work fine.
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Another Patreon post by me reposted:
2017 Wrap-Up - Elena
This is the last single character wrap-up (as MCFemale is too glorious and does not need a wrap-up).
Here are some year end thoughts regarding the female characters in the story, continuing with Elena. Part of this discussion will revolve around the observed themes: (1) Love conquers Fear; (2) Love transcends Societal Prejudice: (3) Coming of Age; and (4) Family.
———
LET the CAT OUT of the BAG
First of all, IMO, it is time for Elena to discover the MC/MC sexual bond. Hints of it could also have been woven into the last release. (1) MCFemale’s best friend should see the tell-tale signs of MCFemale’s arousal when the three of them are together (such as at the bath house); (2) Elena on the MCMale/Elena path should notice MCMale’s glances at MCFemale when the three of them are together - unless her female intuition radar is out of wack; (3) Elena has had no qualms in (jokingly or not) intimating MC/MC sexual attraction to her friend - and in setting up sexual situations that allow for bantering about MC/MC attraction; and finally (4) MCFemale has already confessed the MC/MC attraction but Elena at that time refused to draw the connection.
IMO, back in DAY 4 is the first time Elena starts to see MCFemale’s attitude toward MCMale. When Elena sees the dress MCFemale got for her dinner with MCMale (the one right before Lucas slugs MCMale), Elena notes the following:
I’ve never seen you like this. —— Your hair is amazing. —— You have a gorgeous dress. —— You are in love girl. ——You never did this for Frank.
While most of Elena’s MC/MC sexual teasing is prefaced with “I’m joking,” this one is not. In fact the statements “I’ve never seen you like this” and “you never did this for Frank” seem to be truthful and not in jest.
In following DAYS Elena jokes with MCFemale about MCFemale being attracted to MCMale, and that MCFemale should make this or that move. (And that MCFemale should let Elena have a crack at it). While these are arguably joking, when we get to MCFemale’s confession in DAY , at some point it should set off alarm bells with Elena that perhaps the jests were actually echoing the truth.
Then in magical DAY 10, the day MCFemale actually confesses her sexual attraction to MCMale, Elena ultimately brushes it off with a rationalization that the MC/MC societal relationship would make it not possible.
Now remember that even back in DAY 4 Elena has a certain kink for the issue, because once MCFemale leaves all dressed up for that pre-Lucas punch dinner, Elena thinks:
All that daddy talk turned me on. —— What if she is fucking him? ——. Nah, that can’t be possible.
So, on DAY 10 we get the following (dialogue from the D-only path):
Hmm... This is strange... —— I think MCFemale might actually be falling for her MCMale! —— It kinda makes sense... —— MCFemale is a romantic girl and I know MCMale is a great guy... —— (MCFemale) Well... I keep getting this tingly feeling every now and then when I’m close to MCMale. —— (Elena with closely pursed lips) So are you saying you like him then? —— (some hem-haw statement by MC). —— (Elena) No, I mean, do you ‘like him, like him?’ —— (MC) Umm I think so... But that’s so wrong, isn’t it? —— (Elena while with a closed pursed mouth face) Wow...I should have seen it sooner. I knew something was going on between them two. I really should help MCFemale through this. Just like any best friend would. After he helped he to meet Koko, he really seems like the perfect guy! Still... It’s her father we’re talking about here... Anyway... I don’t think she means what she thinks she means.
[Really, Elena? MCFemale agreed with you that she thinks she ‘likes him, likes him.’ In boy-girl parlance, that means romantically and/or sexually like him. In fact, MCFemale adds in the statement, “But that’s SO wrong, isn’t it?” (My emphasis on “SO”). MCFemale is admitting the worst - sexual attraction.]
———
There are several GREAT reasons for Elena getting to the truth over the next 3-5 releases.
(1) It avoids all the relevant characters from learning the truth squashed into the same episodes. Elena can play out the reveal now through several updates, with all the appropriate emotions, justification speeches, and acceptance dialogues - with the focus being on Elena and the MCs only. Uncluttered with other characters.
(2) It allows Elena into the conspiracy. While the rest of the world does not know (except Lucas), the core three know. Future plans can now include the core three allowing for more dynamic scenes.
(3) It gets Elena involved prior to MC/MC sexual intercourse. It allows Elena then to give (for better or for comedic worse) sexual advice. Or, alternately, it allows Elena to give some serious advice on how to do it the right way - especially if when a Elena lost her virginity, it was not the best circumstance. Elena did state (to MCMale I believe, while at the coffee shop after the hospital): “I’m just angry at myself for always going out with the wrong guys. I always seem to choose the assholes or the ones that treat me like shit...”.
(4) AND BEST OF ALL: I allows Elena to orchestrate an elaborate “gotcha” scene. When Elena and crew played that “Three Card Dare” game (in Day 6?), MCFemale opined she liked that game and would like to play it again. A game like that - with some alcohol involved - could make a great Hercule Poirot reveal scene.
———
Okay - so back on track to the themes:
(1) Family: Elena has a newly revealed and dynamic relationship with her father, some of it typical of a teen. For example, she has a teen’s openly low opinion of her father. Back in DAY 1, Elena stated: “my dad is a stick in the mud, always fussing over everything” and described her father as a “bloated old guy.” However, in Chapter 2, her father appears thin and not bloated, and her father seems a world away fro pm Rachael in being a fussy stick in the mud.
Elena does have issues with her father. The fairly recent death of her mother might have exasperated the natural father/daughter issues. Death in the family can cause both parents and children to become more fearful, causing damage to their relationships and trust. Perhaps the family issues MCFemale is dealing with, to include Rachael and MCMale, will shed light on Elena’s relationship with her father. Elena currently idolizes MCMale for his caring and kindness - when can she start to see that in her father, although buried under his own fears after the loss of his wife. (Btw - I am not espousing her father get pulled into a sex scene - suggest keeping this story line wholesome and sentimental - reflecting on how the wholesome and sentimental parts of the MC/MC story can help heal other relationships).
If Elena enters into a polyamory relationship with MCMale, how is the first MCMale/Father meeting going to go? Hopefully well - though how do we get to that “amicable” meet? (For that matter, how will the MCMale/Rachael reveal go for MC/MC? Luckily it appears these won’t happen until Chapter 3 - we have time to figure this all out. Lordy Lordy.
———
(2) Coming of Age: Elena’s Coming of age moments could stem from two things discussed above:
First, it takes a mature person to realize one’s parents, for all their flaws, don’t have to be perfect and stalwart, and can still have your unconditional love. In the scene with Elena and her father, Elena came across as a bitter teen. It will take a step of maturity to get past that. Perhaps, if Elena is involved in the MC/MC reveal suggested above, part of the expected up and down emotions leading to and resulting from that reveal could enlighten Elena in ways that help with her seeing her father in a more loving light.
Perhaps we are at a point where Elena and MCFemale are alone as talking in a heated and emotional way about the MC/MC relationship. Elena is pushing back against the idea due to societal reasons (or due to personal jealousy in the Elena path). MCFemale lashes back because she has seen how Elena is with her father and his their relationship sucks — and how MCFemale has it even worse because her mother is still around like and evil witch and at least Elena’s mother is dead and out of her life and she should be glad... (Damn, girl! That’s pretty harsh of you, MCFemale. Have some compassion!)
Second, ... (sorry, still amazed MCFemale has such a mean streak...)
Second, Elena admits she picks the wrong guys. Is that why she likes older men, because the younger guys are more likely to be assholes? She does jump to sex almost right away. Does she have some issues there where she thinks of sex as the best tool into a relationship? I think that at some point MCMale could start a date - or even have a full date - where he puts the breaks on “sex” with Elena and does all the romantic and sentimental things with Elena. It might blow her mind.
———
(3-4) Love conquers Fear and Societal Prejudices: Where most of the DMD world in Patreon and abroad is watching MCFemale go from love to lust (and sometimes delightfully frustratingly slow) —— Elena has the opportunity to go from Lust to Love. Her lust can get her past societal prejudices, but only a found love can get her past her fears.
It could be Elena has been using lust to get past her fears. Why does she pick the wrong men?is she afraid of something that causes her to pass up the other men? Is early sex a crutch to get past the fear of emotional involvement? Does this fear stem from her mother’s death? Does it stem from her first sexual experience?
The MC/MC arc is powerful. The Elena arc, in its own way, can be as powerful and poignant.
Damn you Timothy Hutton - this scene always brings me to tears:
2017 Wrap-Up - Elena
This is the last single character wrap-up (as MCFemale is too glorious and does not need a wrap-up).
Here are some year end thoughts regarding the female characters in the story, continuing with Elena. Part of this discussion will revolve around the observed themes: (1) Love conquers Fear; (2) Love transcends Societal Prejudice: (3) Coming of Age; and (4) Family.
———
LET the CAT OUT of the BAG
First of all, IMO, it is time for Elena to discover the MC/MC sexual bond. Hints of it could also have been woven into the last release. (1) MCFemale’s best friend should see the tell-tale signs of MCFemale’s arousal when the three of them are together (such as at the bath house); (2) Elena on the MCMale/Elena path should notice MCMale’s glances at MCFemale when the three of them are together - unless her female intuition radar is out of wack; (3) Elena has had no qualms in (jokingly or not) intimating MC/MC sexual attraction to her friend - and in setting up sexual situations that allow for bantering about MC/MC attraction; and finally (4) MCFemale has already confessed the MC/MC attraction but Elena at that time refused to draw the connection.
IMO, back in DAY 4 is the first time Elena starts to see MCFemale’s attitude toward MCMale. When Elena sees the dress MCFemale got for her dinner with MCMale (the one right before Lucas slugs MCMale), Elena notes the following:
I’ve never seen you like this. —— Your hair is amazing. —— You have a gorgeous dress. —— You are in love girl. ——You never did this for Frank.
While most of Elena’s MC/MC sexual teasing is prefaced with “I’m joking,” this one is not. In fact the statements “I’ve never seen you like this” and “you never did this for Frank” seem to be truthful and not in jest.
In following DAYS Elena jokes with MCFemale about MCFemale being attracted to MCMale, and that MCFemale should make this or that move. (And that MCFemale should let Elena have a crack at it). While these are arguably joking, when we get to MCFemale’s confession in DAY , at some point it should set off alarm bells with Elena that perhaps the jests were actually echoing the truth.
Then in magical DAY 10, the day MCFemale actually confesses her sexual attraction to MCMale, Elena ultimately brushes it off with a rationalization that the MC/MC societal relationship would make it not possible.
Now remember that even back in DAY 4 Elena has a certain kink for the issue, because once MCFemale leaves all dressed up for that pre-Lucas punch dinner, Elena thinks:
All that daddy talk turned me on. —— What if she is fucking him? ——. Nah, that can’t be possible.
So, on DAY 10 we get the following (dialogue from the D-only path):
Hmm... This is strange... —— I think MCFemale might actually be falling for her MCMale! —— It kinda makes sense... —— MCFemale is a romantic girl and I know MCMale is a great guy... —— (MCFemale) Well... I keep getting this tingly feeling every now and then when I’m close to MCMale. —— (Elena with closely pursed lips) So are you saying you like him then? —— (some hem-haw statement by MC). —— (Elena) No, I mean, do you ‘like him, like him?’ —— (MC) Umm I think so... But that’s so wrong, isn’t it? —— (Elena while with a closed pursed mouth face) Wow...I should have seen it sooner. I knew something was going on between them two. I really should help MCFemale through this. Just like any best friend would. After he helped he to meet Koko, he really seems like the perfect guy! Still... It’s her father we’re talking about here... Anyway... I don’t think she means what she thinks she means.
[Really, Elena? MCFemale agreed with you that she thinks she ‘likes him, likes him.’ In boy-girl parlance, that means romantically and/or sexually like him. In fact, MCFemale adds in the statement, “But that’s SO wrong, isn’t it?” (My emphasis on “SO”). MCFemale is admitting the worst - sexual attraction.]
———
There are several GREAT reasons for Elena getting to the truth over the next 3-5 releases.
(1) It avoids all the relevant characters from learning the truth squashed into the same episodes. Elena can play out the reveal now through several updates, with all the appropriate emotions, justification speeches, and acceptance dialogues - with the focus being on Elena and the MCs only. Uncluttered with other characters.
(2) It allows Elena into the conspiracy. While the rest of the world does not know (except Lucas), the core three know. Future plans can now include the core three allowing for more dynamic scenes.
(3) It gets Elena involved prior to MC/MC sexual intercourse. It allows Elena then to give (for better or for comedic worse) sexual advice. Or, alternately, it allows Elena to give some serious advice on how to do it the right way - especially if when a Elena lost her virginity, it was not the best circumstance. Elena did state (to MCMale I believe, while at the coffee shop after the hospital): “I’m just angry at myself for always going out with the wrong guys. I always seem to choose the assholes or the ones that treat me like shit...”.
(4) AND BEST OF ALL: I allows Elena to orchestrate an elaborate “gotcha” scene. When Elena and crew played that “Three Card Dare” game (in Day 6?), MCFemale opined she liked that game and would like to play it again. A game like that - with some alcohol involved - could make a great Hercule Poirot reveal scene.
———
Okay - so back on track to the themes:
(1) Family: Elena has a newly revealed and dynamic relationship with her father, some of it typical of a teen. For example, she has a teen’s openly low opinion of her father. Back in DAY 1, Elena stated: “my dad is a stick in the mud, always fussing over everything” and described her father as a “bloated old guy.” However, in Chapter 2, her father appears thin and not bloated, and her father seems a world away fro pm Rachael in being a fussy stick in the mud.
Elena does have issues with her father. The fairly recent death of her mother might have exasperated the natural father/daughter issues. Death in the family can cause both parents and children to become more fearful, causing damage to their relationships and trust. Perhaps the family issues MCFemale is dealing with, to include Rachael and MCMale, will shed light on Elena’s relationship with her father. Elena currently idolizes MCMale for his caring and kindness - when can she start to see that in her father, although buried under his own fears after the loss of his wife. (Btw - I am not espousing her father get pulled into a sex scene - suggest keeping this story line wholesome and sentimental - reflecting on how the wholesome and sentimental parts of the MC/MC story can help heal other relationships).
If Elena enters into a polyamory relationship with MCMale, how is the first MCMale/Father meeting going to go? Hopefully well - though how do we get to that “amicable” meet? (For that matter, how will the MCMale/Rachael reveal go for MC/MC? Luckily it appears these won’t happen until Chapter 3 - we have time to figure this all out. Lordy Lordy.
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(2) Coming of Age: Elena’s Coming of age moments could stem from two things discussed above:
First, it takes a mature person to realize one’s parents, for all their flaws, don’t have to be perfect and stalwart, and can still have your unconditional love. In the scene with Elena and her father, Elena came across as a bitter teen. It will take a step of maturity to get past that. Perhaps, if Elena is involved in the MC/MC reveal suggested above, part of the expected up and down emotions leading to and resulting from that reveal could enlighten Elena in ways that help with her seeing her father in a more loving light.
Perhaps we are at a point where Elena and MCFemale are alone as talking in a heated and emotional way about the MC/MC relationship. Elena is pushing back against the idea due to societal reasons (or due to personal jealousy in the Elena path). MCFemale lashes back because she has seen how Elena is with her father and his their relationship sucks — and how MCFemale has it even worse because her mother is still around like and evil witch and at least Elena’s mother is dead and out of her life and she should be glad... (Damn, girl! That’s pretty harsh of you, MCFemale. Have some compassion!)
Second, ... (sorry, still amazed MCFemale has such a mean streak...)
Second, Elena admits she picks the wrong guys. Is that why she likes older men, because the younger guys are more likely to be assholes? She does jump to sex almost right away. Does she have some issues there where she thinks of sex as the best tool into a relationship? I think that at some point MCMale could start a date - or even have a full date - where he puts the breaks on “sex” with Elena and does all the romantic and sentimental things with Elena. It might blow her mind.
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(3-4) Love conquers Fear and Societal Prejudices: Where most of the DMD world in Patreon and abroad is watching MCFemale go from love to lust (and sometimes delightfully frustratingly slow) —— Elena has the opportunity to go from Lust to Love. Her lust can get her past societal prejudices, but only a found love can get her past her fears.
It could be Elena has been using lust to get past her fears. Why does she pick the wrong men?is she afraid of something that causes her to pass up the other men? Is early sex a crutch to get past the fear of emotional involvement? Does this fear stem from her mother’s death? Does it stem from her first sexual experience?
The MC/MC arc is powerful. The Elena arc, in its own way, can be as powerful and poignant.
Damn you Timothy Hutton - this scene always brings me to tears:
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Very interesting to hear. Besides including in other ladies or going daughter alone, this is not a VN with a lot of choices - but the few routes that are there have certainly been a blast.
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