Any paypal business member can set recurring payments to happen monthly with a 2.75% cost rather than Patreons 5%+ costs with further costs to patrons. By stepping away from Patreon, he is actually saving his pledgers money every month!!! When you are the big dog why cave in to the little dog who threatens you? Just chew him up or spit him out! [your choice depending on your fetish, spit or swallow...]
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Yeah, Paypal is a main asset of Patreon.
Only biggest brands can use paypal. Paypal forbids porn and he would lose his acount with all funds for TOS violation. That's why Patreon is special
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WHAT!!!!BACKSTABBING PIECES OF SHIT.mr dots complied with patreon and removed incest.they version they see doesnt have incest.he mustnt succumb.mustnt continue on patreons.since they killed this game they will kill the next one too for no reason.people have.players have been invested since september 2016 in the DMD story.nobody must be allowed to take it away
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Yep, why aren't the biggest Devs coming and creating there own website? They have the support the money and the reach to do this why aren't they?
Well, imo he should find an alternative to paypal, and add it to his own website. These alternatives do exist, just check google for ccbill or stripe (I've looked for like 30s, I don't know if they have any restrictions).
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Maybe next chapter will have it's own title ... "A new hope" (as much as I dislike Star Wars ... they're good in making movie titles ^^ )
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dmd didnt end.mr dots will see that future on patreon isnt possible.they will kill al his future projects too.just reading the requirement of patreon stuff greenlighting his pitches pissed me off.fucking political correctness SJW bullshit
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Ccbill is used by Hentaikey.com
and we all know that hentai content has no limitations
I am afraid most money processing sites and payment gateways will have similar rules. Even those which are porn-friendly like CCBill.
The reason is, these are the rules the card companies enforce on them. One can probably operate more-or-less staying under radar, but the risk will always be there. The more levels are there, the bigger a chance.
For example, I believe both Visa and MasterCard don't allow any porn site, to directly accept their cards. But via certain payment operators they kind of let it slip (like CCBill or Verotel). But they still don't allow certain things, which even these companies check on the site they provide payments for. But I've seen sites, selling credits - totally valid, and those credit scan be then used somewhere else, to buy not-approved content. Naturally it's inconvenient and adds cost - both to sellers and for buyer (devs/patreons).
In future there's the chance what crypto-currencies offer, but right now their price is too volatile to work reasonably. But perhaps once this hypes dies out, we will see a new dawn (Personally I wish this boom crashes the sooner the better)
The reason is, these are the rules the card companies enforce on them. One can probably operate more-or-less staying under radar, but the risk will always be there. The more levels are there, the bigger a chance.
For example, I believe both Visa and MasterCard don't allow any porn site, to directly accept their cards. But via certain payment operators they kind of let it slip (like CCBill or Verotel). But they still don't allow certain things, which even these companies check on the site they provide payments for. But I've seen sites, selling credits - totally valid, and those credit scan be then used somewhere else, to buy not-approved content. Naturally it's inconvenient and adds cost - both to sellers and for buyer (devs/patreons).
In future there's the chance what crypto-currencies offer, but right now their price is too volatile to work reasonably. But perhaps once this hypes dies out, we will see a new dawn (Personally I wish this boom crashes the sooner the better)
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MrDots just needs to create patreon page which would be consisted of him opening up Kinder surprise eggs and reviewing toys and Elsa bullshit,like those youtube channels,while working ond DmD in the shadows
jokes aside i'm really not optimistic at all unless he already planned something before all of this but from what he said in that post and in what way he said it,i doubt that...LoP games are in the business for years with other method of payments,problem is if MrDots takes that approach he will most likely loose 90% of current pledges,just like LoP got drop in their subscriptions over the years...
this could easily be the end of DmD
jokes aside i'm really not optimistic at all unless he already planned something before all of this but from what he said in that post and in what way he said it,i doubt that...LoP games are in the business for years with other method of payments,problem is if MrDots takes that approach he will most likely loose 90% of current pledges,just like LoP got drop in their subscriptions over the years...
this could easily be the end of DmD
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he already has a website.cant he create a payment(milking as many call it) system there.for example lop has c bill and im thinking he could probably code payment level(1 5 20 dollar etc)and add paywallsMrDots just needs to create patreon page which would be consisted of him opening up Kinder surprise eggs and reviewing toys and Elsa bullshit,like those youtube channels,while working ond DmD in the shadows
jokes aside i'm really not optimistic at all unless he already planned something before all of this but from what he said in that post and in what way he said it,i doubt that...LoP games are in the business for years with other method of payments,problem is if MrDots takes that approach he will most likely loose 90% of current pledges,just like LoP got drop in their subscriptions over the years...
this could easily be the end of DmD
Well you're right, but I think that crypto currencies are already good enought, maybe just not use bitcoin. If you by the right amount a crypto before paying you don't pay much more.
He can also go on makersupport.
They guidline says
And I think it worth to try...
- May 8, 2017
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Reason why LOP were able to gather funds was that they are small as hell so they're released consistently. They are more or less on par with 1-2 months of releases. Bigger games can't do that. And even bigger games can't use monthly Patreon releases. Games are always dependant on a release model.
As for CCBill it's not really alternative for now. Paypal has no alterative as it's a common, safe site with milions of users. People hate to create another accounts not to say to give their cards data when they have one already. Paypal is without alternatives just like Google is. You can use other sites but who would do so? To attract funds you have to find a way into a mainstream audience and mainstream audience won't use different payment methods just for porn
As for CCBill it's not really alternative for now. Paypal has no alterative as it's a common, safe site with milions of users. People hate to create another accounts not to say to give their cards data when they have one already. Paypal is without alternatives just like Google is. You can use other sites but who would do so? To attract funds you have to find a way into a mainstream audience and mainstream audience won't use different payment methods just for porn
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I think they should take Darkcookie as an example with Summertime Saga.
The game develops it and places it on its own site. donations receive them on Patreon where he has only the front page.
Or, the various creators, should create a personal site, or a common site, such as a site LoP .... 1 site with many creators (games)
The game develops it and places it on its own site. donations receive them on Patreon where he has only the front page.
Or, the various creators, should create a personal site, or a common site, such as a site LoP .... 1 site with many creators (games)
My guess is that as long as MrDots is under direct scrutiny, we will not get any new relevant information where the patreon inquisition can see it.
Basically posting on the patreon site a way to reverse the enforced changes has not been the best move.
This said, I sincerely hope for some new information in, say, a month or two, when the situation, hopefully, would have calmed down somewhat.
The game is great, and I still hope that it will not die over this.
This said, it does not look too good, all things considered.
Basically posting on the patreon site a way to reverse the enforced changes has not been the best move.
This said, I sincerely hope for some new information in, say, a month or two, when the situation, hopefully, would have calmed down somewhat.
The game is great, and I still hope that it will not die over this.
This said, it does not look too good, all things considered.