kyosuke01

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If you get +20.000 bucks per month for a game (4.100 patrons) and you know that most likely you will lose most of that money if you do a different game, you try by every possible means to continue with your money maker. I think there is hope for DMD. MrDots just needs to figure out another way to monetize it.
the problem is that this has been a long time coming. I believe that since the first big Patreon putting pages on review fiasco that happened last year, he has been trying to find a better alternative to monetize his project, but hasn't been able to. he cant use Paypal because Paypal has the same restrictions as Patreon as far as their TOS for incest and adult themes etc.

now he has to try and find a solution for a problem hes been trying to solve for months in approximately one month. And while doing so not abandon Patreon because its a household name and everyone feels comfortable using patreon as a platform to support their favorite creators. so since he isn't going to abandon the platform he also has about a month to brainstorm ideas, select a project and begin creating said project from scratch and have something to show for it in about a month to maybe two months time. its a lot to do for Mr. D and his team. i believe its going to be incredibly difficult to do both. not impossible but pretty damn close to it.
 
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SolarEclipsed

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Nobody cares about Patreon. There are enough other Crowdfunding sites like that where they dont want to tell you what you are allowed to fucking develop.

Fucking prude Americans. If that was a Game about torturing your Daughter I bet it would be fine.

People dont want Random "Date my Girlfriend". We want to fucking finish DmD and fucking impregnate her and live together with her and her Girlfriend.

Just move on to another Site and continue DmD. Patreon was shit anyways since you can't pay with PayPal. Devs really need to get away from Patreon.

There is only one option and thats to move on from Patreon.
That is funny because I have been paying with Paypal on patreon for the last 2 years.
 
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Ofc that's logical and he should look for a solution to continue DMD. But at this point no one found out any decent solution. Even if he'll be left with only 1k patrons that's still much more than he can achieve outside of Patreon and he knows that. In mainstream industry indie games are barely noticable without Steam and there are other platforms they could use.

But how he can ignore them and still have that cash?
Any paypal business member can set recurring payments to happen monthly with a 2.75% cost rather than Patreons 5%+ costs with further costs to patrons. By stepping away from Patreon, he is actually saving his pledgers money every month!!! When you are the big dog why cave in to the little dog who threatens you? Just chew him up or spit him out! [your choice depending on your fetish, spit or swallow...]
 

Ignazzio

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Yeah, Paypal is a main asset of Patreon.
Any paypal business member can set recurring payments to happen monthly with a 2.75% cost rather than Patreons 5%+ costs with further costs to patrons. By stepping away from Patreon, he is actually saving his pledgers money every month!!! When you are the big dog why cave in to the little dog who threatens you? Just chew him up or spit him out! [your choice depending on your fetish, spit or swallow...]
Only biggest brands can use paypal. Paypal forbids porn and he would lose his acount with all funds for TOS violation. That's why Patreon is special
 
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markmaso

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WHAT!!!!BACKSTABBING PIECES OF SHIT.mr dots complied with patreon and removed incest.they version they see doesnt have incest.he mustnt succumb.mustnt continue on patreons.since they killed this game they will kill the next one too for no reason.people have.players have been invested since september 2016 in the DMD story.nobody must be allowed to take it away
 

Jim Webb

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You had to know that now is the time of the "social justice warriors" given the "me too" movement where you can hurl accusations at anyone from your past in true character assassination form without any burden of proof, paramount to the Salem Witch Trials... I just hope that Mr. D. will at least give us a "happy ending" before he embarks on his new watered down, remove my money from his pocket, Patreon endeavor... (SMH)

Still, don't understand why these guys, especially the "big dogs" just don't tell Patreon to fuck off and do it themselves? What you are a programmer and can't figure out how to build a website and take recurring paypal payments??? I may not be a dev but I am self-employed and if you are willing to pay me, I can take any form of payment that you can offer... Are you that hard up, or stupid, that you can't???
Yep, why aren't the biggest Devs coming and creating there own website? They have the support the money and the reach to do this why aren't they?
 
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Jim Webb

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Can't wait Till he starts his brand new Patreon trust and safety approved vidya game.


My little pony here we come!!!
 

Hadley

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Damn I'm fucking glad I did not waste any money on Patreon. I would be fucking angry as fuck if I invested money in this and now its just abandoned.
 

Lykanz

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Yep... Patreon is slowly turning into a strictly SFW platform.

I just hope Drip gets open registrations soon...
 
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markmaso

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dmd didnt end.mr dots will see that future on patreon isnt possible.they will kill al his future projects too.just reading the requirement of patreon stuff greenlighting his pitches pissed me off.fucking political correctness SJW bullshit
 

Daniel xVxd

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I am afraid most money processing sites and payment gateways will have similar rules. Even those which are porn-friendly like CCBill.
The reason is, these are the rules the card companies enforce on them. One can probably operate more-or-less staying under radar, but the risk will always be there. The more levels are there, the bigger a chance.
For example, I believe both Visa and MasterCard don't allow any porn site, to directly accept their cards. But via certain payment operators they kind of let it slip (like CCBill or Verotel). But they still don't allow certain things, which even these companies check on the site they provide payments for. But I've seen sites, selling credits - totally valid, and those credit scan be then used somewhere else, to buy not-approved content. Naturally it's inconvenient and adds cost - both to sellers and for buyer (devs/patreons).
In future there's the chance what crypto-currencies offer, but right now their price is too volatile to work reasonably. But perhaps once this hypes dies out, we will see a new dawn (Personally I wish this boom crashes the sooner the better)
 

wrx21

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MrDots just needs to create patreon page which would be consisted of him opening up Kinder surprise eggs and reviewing toys and Elsa bullshit,like those youtube channels,while working ond DmD in the shadows

jokes aside i'm really not optimistic at all unless he already planned something before all of this but from what he said in that post and in what way he said it,i doubt that...LoP games are in the business for years with other method of payments,problem is if MrDots takes that approach he will most likely loose 90% of current pledges,just like LoP got drop in their subscriptions over the years...
this could easily be the end of DmD :(
 

markmaso

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MrDots just needs to create patreon page which would be consisted of him opening up Kinder surprise eggs and reviewing toys and Elsa bullshit,like those youtube channels,while working ond DmD in the shadows

jokes aside i'm really not optimistic at all unless he already planned something before all of this but from what he said in that post and in what way he said it,i doubt that...LoP games are in the business for years with other method of payments,problem is if MrDots takes that approach he will most likely loose 90% of current pledges,just like LoP got drop in their subscriptions over the years...
this could easily be the end of DmD :(
he already has a website.cant he create a payment(milking as many call it) system there.for example lop has c bill and im thinking he could probably code payment level(1 5 20 dollar etc)and add paywalls
 

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I am afraid most money processing sites and payment gateways will have similar rules. Even those which are porn-friendly like CCBill.
The reason is, these are the rules the card companies enforce on them. One can probably operate more-or-less staying under radar, but the risk will always be there. The more levels are there, the bigger a chance.
For example, I believe both Visa and MasterCard don't allow any porn site, to directly accept their cards. But via certain payment operators they kind of let it slip (like CCBill or Verotel). But they still don't allow certain things, which even these companies check on the site they provide payments for. But I've seen sites, selling credits - totally valid, and those credit scan be then used somewhere else, to buy not-approved content. Naturally it's inconvenient and adds cost - both to sellers and for buyer (devs/patreons).
In future there's the chance what crypto-currencies offer, but right now their price is too volatile to work reasonably. But perhaps once this hypes dies out, we will see a new dawn (Personally I wish this boom crashes the sooner the better)
Well you're right, but I think that crypto currencies are already good enought, maybe just not use bitcoin. If you by the right amount a crypto before paying you don't pay much more.

He can also go on makersupport.
They guidline says
NSFW Content
Content considered "not safe for work" (NSFW) is permitted in posts on MakerSupport, but must be marked as such to prevent it from being shown to users under the age of 18.

Adult content may not be included in cover artwork or profile pictures, as those images are publicly visible without a content warning for underage users.

Adult content may not be monetized if it is pornographic in nature. However, adult content which is artistic in nature may be monetized. This will be judged on a case-by-case basis and creators will always be consulted before any changes are made to their monetization status.

We understand that this is very vague, so here are some general rules. Cartoons and depictions are nearly always acceptable. Real-life photos and videos of sexual acts are very often considered pornography.
And I think it worth to try...
 
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