Londo_Mollari

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I'm pretty sure that the two underdeveloped girls are a problem now as well. Because apart from incest and mind control/ rape, patreon is also going against anything that could be considered lolicon.
Mind you, I'm not saying the two girls are, but I think patreon thinks they are.

We understand that some topics on this list such as incest or rape are a little bit more complicated because these situations are, unfortunately, part of real life. As a result, when reviewing this type of content, the Trust and Safety team will take into consideration context including personal, historical or educational narrative. For example, survivor stories or fiction such as Game of Thrones or Lolita are allowed on Patreon.
 

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Couldn't Mr.Dots change the script of DMD to a 'Patreon-complient' version and host the actual script file on a different site?

My thought was that for the Patreon version, Rachel and the MC were old friends. Rachel was an French-exchange student who was hosted by MC and his family when they were in their teens. When Rachel went back, they still kept in contact over the years. Now Rachel has a daughter who's interested in studying overseas after her final year in high-school. Rachel suggests going to MC's country for a couple of weeks (to test the waters and so MC can watch over her)...

I don't think it would involve any major changes to the current script, but it would effectively remove the familial relationship.
A rewrite is not acceptable to Patreon. After the feeling Patreon got that the “fix” over the last few months was a fix in form and not in underlying substance, the end result from Patreon appears to be “get rid of it entirely, or we will shut you down - but get rid of it entirely and you can start an entirely new project after running it past our incest/rape/drug censors.”
 
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Ignazzio

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Are there any news about new game? I'm in fact more interested in it than DMD. I've always wanted slow-burn VN without incest. He has some idea already?
 

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I'm pretty sure this is a reference to Vladimir Nabokov's novel and not the porn genre lolicon.
Parental Love had to remove a character who looks underage, Teacher's Pet had to change the girls from school to university students, even though they didn't look like kids in the first place.
 
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First, to : Jeff Steele

Then, general commentary.

Hi Jeff ! Old friend here (former fellow commentator on community section on DMD's patreon site).

What a dismal time this is !

(More on that later)

I just wanted to thank you for the fantastik way in which you turned
the situation around in the restaurant scene. What a contribution you made !

You litterally saved the Georgina character !

We both fought hard in defending the notion of polyamory as an option, that it wasn't necessary for F to cheat on D to accomplish this.

And you succeeded !

- I made an allusion to this in another game, Pandelo 's ''My sweet neighbors'' -

But I've kept tabs on what was happening in DMD.

It's so frustratingly regrettable.

It would be understandable for them - Patreon - to want to provide guidelines for outward appearances for projects potentially controversial in nature.

But dictating content ?!?

That's against the very notion of freedom of speech !!!

Then it dawned on me...

Patreon is privately owned.

What happened to them ?

Did they get a new president that wanted to make their mark by changing everything ?

Is it this new cultural phenomenon called SJW ? They were pressured in doing this, in cracking down ?

Intriguing times...

That can be frustrating also
QcBern, what’s up buddy! Thanks for the restaurant scene rewrite shout out. This was at the time a bunch of us were writing that MC seemed to becoming a cheating scumbag. Well now he is less a scumbag and more of a jerk. Lol. Georgina gained in that rewrite and MC did as he went from “Georgina, what would work think if we hooked up” to “Georgina, what would my daughter think...oh, what nice breasts you have” — yes, the scene change encapsulated in two sentences. Lol
 
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botc76

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Since Aiden hasn’t posted for a while, I’ll take a semiofficial role and say that MDots is invested in the stated plan of having a viable and as entertaining as DMD VN to be released via Patron, and he plans to continue with DMD as envisioned. The New Story is not going to be a filler, or smoke and mirrors, but he intends it to be a genuinely supportable product.

Are their hurdles - to be sure. Virtuvoid pointed out (correct me if I’m wrong) that juggling two products could lead to production failure. Perhaps. I know how projects can overwhelm each other.

In addition, you have to train patrons to not talk about DMD on Patreon any longer, and links to DMD can’t be linked on Patreon (by MDots or fans). I can see self policing needed there.

But I guarantee MDots’ advertised intentions are his actual intentions.

Rome was not built in a day my friends. (And neither was Daughter’s virginity lost in a day).
I was looking at the prevalent community view, bro. Your view is fine with me.
Outsiders will rarely know much of anything.
The main problem is that human beings make too many assumptions, especially about other human beings...
Guys, I really have no idea what you are all going on about. It wasn't me who doubted Mr. Dots intentions I made a SARCASTIC post in reply to someone who did.

I'm talking about this post by Goldy:

"Dots said he'll develop 2 projects but it means more or less that he will dump DMD at some point when his playerbase switch entirely to new project. Business is a bitch and there is no place for emotions.
Look on Dark Silver on BB game after version 0.13 it will be no more update for that game. R.I.P BB and soon or later DMD will be in the same position.
"

I have no idea if and how long Mr. Dots will stick to DmD, I hope he does until it's finished, I was merely criticizing Goldy for his idea that he knew exactly what Mr. Dots was going to do.

Geezuz!
 

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Jeff, a personal suggestion for you.
Get yourself a green badge for posting on this site. You'll open more eyes and ears that way.
If you start a concurrent project, the DMD team should think about doing a sub-contract. Oc, maintain editor status.
Self-policing won't work since 99% compliance is insufficient. MrDots is already transitioning towards the PM route (should consider hiring a good secretary).
Good luck, bro...
Thanks, bud. I’m not quite a green badge yet but who knows... I’m working on giving as much email ideas to the design team as possible during this quick turn around for two projects.
 

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Unfortunately for DMD fans, we fear we "know" what Patreon is thinking and planning to do.
MrDots' reactions are clear as mud...
Guys, I really have no idea what you are all going on about. It wasn't me who doubted Mr. Dots intentions I made a SARCASTIC post in reply to someone who did.

I'm talking about this post by Goldy:

"Dots said he'll develop 2 projects but it means more or less that he will dump DMD at some point when his playerbase switch entirely to new project. Business is a bitch and there is no place for emotions.
Look on Dark Silver on BB game after version 0.13 it will be no more update for that game. R.I.P BB and soon or later DMD will be in the same position.
"

I have no idea if and how long Mr. Dots will stick to DmD, I hope he does until it's finished, I was merely criticizing Goldy for his idea that he knew exactly what Mr. Dots was going to do.

Geezuz!
The guy who posted that has been like a 2 year old throwing his toys out of the pram because his favourite blanket was put in the wash. Not only on here but on the BB thread too.
 

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Guys, I really have no idea what you are all going on about. It wasn't me who doubted Mr. Dots intentions I made a SARCASTIC post in reply to someone who did.

I'm talking about this post by Goldy:

"Dots said he'll develop 2 projects but it means more or less that he will dump DMD at some point when his playerbase switch entirely to new project. Business is a bitch and there is no place for emotions.
Look on Dark Silver on BB game after version 0.13 it will be no more update for that game. R.I.P BB and soon or later DMD will be in the same position.
"

I have no idea if and how long Mr. Dots will stick to DmD, I hope he does until it's finished, I was merely criticizing Goldy for his idea that he knew exactly what Mr. Dots was going to do.

Geezuz!
Lol. I know it was sarcasm. I was posting in support of your POV - and your sarcasm.
 
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with that kind of support, why not have 2 teams? im sure they can recruit one or two more,
i mean, 2 separate project should give more income as well. its not a good move to work with 2 projects, that could create problem with the flow of the game.
 

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we'll have to wait and see what will happen but truth is things are not looking good for dmd
 

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He could change the title of the game on patreon to DMD, with no other reference to the full name, then upload the game for sharing somewhere like a torrent or MEGA? No direct links from patreon except to his website or discord, still use patreon for funding?
 

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Er soll einfach aus Dating my Daughter
Dating my Stepdaughter machen!
Dating my Stepdaughter machen!
Sie (Patreon) erlauben es auch nicht.
Sie sagten, nichts in Bezug auf DMD kann da sein,
und Patreon kann nicht zur Finanzierung von DMD verwendet werden.

Make Dating my Stepdaughter!
They (Patreon) do not allow it either.
They said nothing about DMD can be there,
and Patreon can not be used to fund DMD.
 
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I didn't get it. how in this case other biggest projects survived? like Big brother or Dream of desire ?
all those are inscest
I believe Patreon picked Mr.Dots because some jealous guy who was suffering a lot because of the amount of money Mr.Dots was making and who didn't like incest discovered here on f95 that Mr.Dots was still developing the original story for DMD despite the changes he made on his patreon page. He threatened on this forum to denounce Mr.Dots to Patreon. And apparently he did it.
 

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But then you can get a problem with idiots writing in to his Patreony 3D Art page, harassing him about problems with his latest under the table release of DMD. You know it will happen. Just look at the constant barrage of questions that happen here after an upload.
Mr. Dots could answer those idiots on his patreon page something like:
"Sorry X, This page is not related to DMD any longer. It is dedicated to my 3D art." and he would send an e-mail to them telling the full story, and where they could ask for help.
 

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Couldn't Mr.Dots change the script of DMD to a 'Patreon-complient' version and host the actual script file on a different site?

My thought was that for the Patreon version, Rachel and the MC were old friends. Rachel was an French-exchange student who was hosted by MC and his family when they were in their teens. When Rachel went back, they still kept in contact over the years. Now Rachel has a daughter who's interested in studying overseas after her final year in high-school. Rachel suggests going to MC's country for a couple of weeks (to test the waters and so MC can watch over her)...

I don't think it would involve any major changes to the current script, but it would effectively remove the familial relationship.
DMD is just dead on Patreon. Nothing related to it can be hosted there. Mr. Dots says he will continue developing the game outside Patreon, but he needs to create another game on his patreon page in order to support his endeavor. The problem is if he actually starts do develop two games at the same time, DMD updates will take much longer to occur.
I suggest he doesn't take seriously the second game, making small updates to it per 60 days or so. But he is the one to make the decision.
 
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He could change the title of the game on patreon to DMD, with no other reference to the full name, then upload the game for sharing somewhere like a torrent or MEGA? No direct links from patreon except to his website or discord, still use patreon for funding?
Since months the name of the game "was" DMD. For Patreon that change apparitly nothing
 

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DMD is just dead on Patreon. Nothing related to it can be hosted there. Mr. Dots says he will continue developing the game outside Patreon, but he needs to create another game on his patreon page in order to support his endeavor. The problem is if he actually starts do develop two games at the same time, DMD updates will take much longer to occur.
I suggest he doesn't take seriously the second game, making small updates to it per 60 days or so. But he is the one to make the decision.
No serious developer can develop a game just for the sake of development. He would lose reputation if his name was connected to a crappy game and it doesn't matter that he was forced to do so. Marketing is really important
 
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