RomanHume

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I agree with everything except the importance you assign to the "story".
My reason for stressing story is strictly personal. I just want a good story to go along with my porn. Some dialogue that isn't contrived and unbelievable. That was reason one we wanted to do our own project, to see if we could improve upon that.

What you describe is harmonious development and is a great achievement.
But imagine when something goes wrong. Then being "on the clock" with a monthly update can lead to a lot more drinking and a lot less sleeping.
I'm a professional programmer that writes software and analytics packages in Java, R, Python, C++ and VB. Driving through the night to hit deadlines is nothing new. And if I had 2,000 followers on Patreon and was banking $10k a month writing fiction porn, I would gladly work a couple of 60 hour weeks to hit the deadline no problem!


Renders seem to be the "easiest" to replicate ((I'm sure getting it right the first time is no picnic) once there is enough time.
This is where we encounter a lot of our drag. We decided if we were going to do this we were going to use Iray's photoreal engine, which we do. But on our current hardware setup, the renders take a long time to accomplish. IF we could speed that up, we'd be cranking out chapters left and right.


Coding is the most difficult : Ren'py is chosen over Unity to somewhat simplify the process (it is my understanding that this is the main trouble-spot for VNs when branching proliferates).
I think it's only a trouble spot if you're new to programming. Since Ren'py is all python based, anything you can do in Python you can do in Ren'py. This opens up the whole world of object oriented programming. So managing story paths doesn't have to be a challenge if you know how to keep your scripts organized.

In most VNs there are typos galore. Where is the proofreading?
I've written a lot of this off to bad translations, but that may just be ignorant on my part. But it is my hope that anyone playing our game who notices any typos points that shit out to us so we can fix it.
The one ingredient they virtually all lack : cohesive, plausible plots. Many individual characters are vivid enough that the renders (and a player's imagination) can atone for literary shortcomings. The best example of this is the adorable D of DMD.
I agree with this 200%!

Gotta say, I can appreciate how much time and thought you've given this. You've clearly done your homework. Either that or you're just very intuitive.
 

RomanHume

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30 characters with Female Protagonist, half of them probably male, so exciting! (not)
A valid point. I just worry about how slow the development of a story that size will be. Knowing nothing about DS's setup, team or capabilities. I mean, I liked the structure of BB, the renders were great, the story was absurd, but it was fun all the same.

And there is the possibility that through working on BB they've developed a very solid work flow to make such a task manageable. Time will tell.
 

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I dont get it what is the problem with this game story? We can kill in games in the most horrible way but we cant have game like this?
 
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RomanHume

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I dont get it what is the problem with this game story? We can kill in games in the most horrible way but we cant have game like this?
Welcome to the good ol' U.S. of A. Where it's perfectly acceptable to sacrifice 2,800 soldiers in a 17 year old war that we can't win, but a digital dick slipping into a digital snizz is criminal!

To be fair. I love my country, but hate some of its people.
 

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Wait, haven't been following since they were taken off Patreon. So DmD is in limbo for the forseeable future too?
 

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Hope its just me but seems that the 1st two links on 1st page don't work anymore they (least for me) go to a Auto blank page, the only one working is the patron page.

So i am guessing that DmD is dead for good ?
 

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Oh, and then about every tenth post is someone once again introducing the idea of:
a. Hatreon
b. Paypal
c. Devs starting their own Patreon
d. continuing the game on Patreon and trying to hide it.

Even though all of these subjects have been thoroughly talked out...they are still being brought up like they're "new ideas".
I especially like the guys who are like "What is MrDots email? I must speak with him immediately!" because I imagine them like hunting down his email and their big thing is "Change it to stepdaughter!!!" x'D
 

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Hope its just me but seems that the 1st two links on 1st page don't work anymore they (least for me) go to a Auto blank page, the only one working is the patron page.

So i am guessing that DmD is dead for good ?
No - the full intention of the process is to continue with DMD.
 
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Maybe they all should get Elon Musk on board, this guy seems to be pretty capable of getting shit done.
Something tells me is a better bet:

James Fickel, 26, lives in a high-rise with a Russian blue cat called Mr. Bigglesworth. Mr. Fickel is known in the community for “going full YOLO” and investing $400,000 when Ethereum was at 80 cents. Now, with a fortune he says is in the hundreds of millions, his parents have retired and sent his younger sister to live with him.

“I’m taking over her education,” Mr. Fickel said, sitting on a white leather sofa, Mr. Bigglesworth asleep in his impossibly skinny arms.
 

Wolf120

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i didn't like the ending of the game
the girls leave to go to there mom home and the dad wasn't able to stop it
 

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HI could anyone help me with this, I have tried it but it does not seem to work for me
Did you download the Ren'py SDK?

Get the Windows 0.16 game from the link in the first post. Unzip it. Put the folder in the renpy sdk folder. Launch renpy.app. DmD should show up under PROJECTS: on the left side. Select it. On the right side, click "Launch Project" to play, or if you want to make a Mac version, click "Build Distributions", then unclick everything but Macintosh x86_64, then click build. Open the zip file in the window that pops up, and you have a Mac version.
 
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Is it confirmed that Mel is a starlet in this new project?
Must be some weird negotiations going on between MrDots and his Patreon editors.
There's no confirmation on that. I threw out this idea because I like to correctly predict something well in advance of the thing happening; plus the 2 things (name & job) fit nicely together.
 

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I especially like the guys who are like "What is MrDots email? I must speak with him immediately!" because I imagine them like hunting down his email and their big thing is "Change it to stepdaughter!!!" x'D
LOL!
I'd call him on the phone personally and roll in with:

"MR DOTS! MR DOTS! I have the solution to your problem.....wait for it..................ADOPTED! It's perfect. You can still call her daughter, but since she's adopted, it's not incest. It'll fly right under the nose of those Patreon muff knuckles!
 

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now, we need the Fan Art/Image Capture more than ever, while waiting for (hopefully) the next update in a couple of weeks.

so, go there and give your love!
 
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RustyV

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Welcome to the good ol' U.S. of A. Where it's perfectly acceptable to sacrifice 2,800 soldiers in a 17 year old war that we can't win, but a digital dick slipping into a digital snizz is criminal!

To be fair. I love my country, but hate some of its people.
It's business hypocrisy, say lies to keep investors and the public happy. We're just getting screwed in the process. Patreon out grew its need for DMD to help it thrive. But If I were Patreon biggies I would put together another unconnected site to keep milking the porn money AND have my Disney princess safe site.
 
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RustyV

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If this new "Mel" story is a Patreon-friendly game I'm really not that hyped about the game. They limited devs to the point where there are so few plot lines all devs will be doing is recreating the same game. They will have to rely on graphics and stroyline, but every player knows there maybe only 4 or 5 sex genre a dev will be free to go.
Comparing what was to now what is, Its like after you see a mountain of presents under the tree on Christmas Day Santa Patreon comes back kicks you repeatedly in the balls and takes most of the toys away. blah.
 
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