- Thread starter Hitman955
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I’m in process writing a scene for DMD V.18, so work is still progressing. The scene I’m writing is fabulous - absolutely fabulous. (And I’m pretty self critical.)
- May 23, 2017
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You forgot modest! You're the most modest person you, or anyone else, knows! :coldsweat:
- Oct 3, 2017
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Thats not how it went, this is how you could restore content.
Quote from Mr.Dots (which appeared on his patreon page as well)
"A HUGE BUG IN THE NEW CHAPTER (IMPORTANT!)
While I was coding the update, I came up with this huge bug that kept crashing my game. I couldn’t solve it in time for the update so I left it there in the code. This bug somehow involves a file called ch2.renpy. It is located inside the game folder. It came with the new Renpy platform, so I don’t know what it exactly does and I’m too afraid to delete it. I hope you don’t experience the same issues that I had. If you have any questions about this bug, please send me a PM.
Sorry about that!"
And now just figure out that a Patreon person would just do the same, delete said file and the content that they dont want reappeared.
He did not go the patch route which other games did, and those other games are still around. And as many others said, with a real anonymous patch to your creation you very highly likely wont be held responsible, even heard from recent cases that Patreon even acknowledged the fact that there are "fan" made patches and said thats fine, as content on Patreon and linked services would be clean.
Mr.Dots probably went onto their list the first time they suspended pages, and then a second time when they found out about his self advertised "solution" on his own Patreon page to restore content. Thats a whole different story.
I'm not saying it is a courtroom, I'm saying if anyone had a problem with how Patreon operated (if they allowed "not-exactly-incest" content), Patreon could pretty much shrug it off without having to worry about public backlash, which is why I find this 'interesting': If Patreon was fully profit oriented, they'd likely just ask to remove/change incest content only (i.e. change "daughter" to "step-daughter"), they could allow "restoration patches" to circulate (strictly outside of Patreon), and as for public opinion, they could save face by stating "we do not allow incest, period".
If you are right and they can do pretty much whatever they want, then the only reason I can think of as to why they would nuke "not-incest" content is because of their personal preferences, which they seem to value more than profit.
Maybe removing actual incest *is* a good business decision, you are right about that, but entirely nuking everything that was or is, in any way, related to incest? It is most definitely not a decision that'll end in more profit or better reputation.
Not because "boo-hoo, we incest lovers can't have our fun", but because this decision says "whatever business you have, it is not safe on Patreon as they can just fuck you over on a whim".
- Jun 2, 2017
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It will be a faster burn. (Lol, hard to get a burn slower than DMD).
- Jun 2, 2017
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Only Trump is more modest than I am.
- Oct 3, 2017
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The thing is, we also heard from a case that they are indeed, as stated with Game of Thrones, not completly nuking incest and everything related. Because from a recent case we heard this:
"Well, I just talked to @Boomatica and the reason why he got shut down was someone reporting him after seeing pictures of Chloe.
Boomatica spoke with Patreon. They said Chloe was looking a bit young but overall they're ok with the incest theme as long as you don't advertise it. Boomatica is removing all pictures/animations of Chloe and all posts mentioning mother/sister from his site and he will be up pretty soon."
Now, what to take from that? That they might be true to their word, or maybe as someone else in that thread said:
"This backs up my theory that the agents reviewing content aren't given solid instructions on what exactly the TOS actually means. Simultaneously distressing and relieving."
who really knows, maybe its like you said, because they actually have preferences and standard over profit (gasp!)
Sadly in the case of DmD he probably poked the hornets nest too often with his own page and own solution to restore banned content, both on the playground they "own".
- Aug 5, 2016
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Yeah, If you want to play the Patreon game, money, you will have to bend over, so that means zero incest, zero rape, and so on. But from a fan/follower of DmD perspective things may look different.
You have been following and supporting a project/developer with your income for more than a year, and now said dev seem to be more preoccupied of maintaining his Patrein page alive than to keep his old project alive, I can see the situation backfiring at Mr.Dots easily.
Yeah, I get it, It's hard to say goodbye to your good monthly check, but on the other hand you could end having a piss off fanbase, the ones paying you in the first place, not Patreon.
Let's see how DmD evolves after this month.
You have been following and supporting a project/developer with your income for more than a year, and now said dev seem to be more preoccupied of maintaining his Patrein page alive than to keep his old project alive, I can see the situation backfiring at Mr.Dots easily.
Yeah, I get it, It's hard to say goodbye to your good monthly check, but on the other hand you could end having a piss off fanbase, the ones paying you in the first place, not Patreon.
Let's see how DmD evolves after this month.
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You know, that ONE time you'd actually want a company to focus on profit but then they go and grow a conscious...
I'm saddened I can't see any way it would end well for DMD.
- Aug 18, 2017
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his new game will be male protagonist, so no worries, I'll play it as well, I'm sure it will be good
the setting looks quite similar to DmD as well, way better than what dark silver is doing releasing a completely different game of the one that brought the success he had, it's just a huge risk. Mr Dots is playing safe and is playing right
the setting looks quite similar to DmD as well, way better than what dark silver is doing releasing a completely different game of the one that brought the success he had, it's just a huge risk. Mr Dots is playing safe and is playing right
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Most of the dozens of games are indistinguishable from all their other games. A lot are just plain god awful grind fests with little to no payout. They've been making these games for years and people were dumb enough to pay them for it. That's the only reason why they have such a big library. When one of your hotly anticipated game takes two years to come out and can be finished in an hour, with no sign of future expansions, you've wasted people's time. This is why their subscriber count is dwindling. Their sense of quality is virtually gone just so they can continue making the same game over and over again. They don't listen to fans and narrow their goals. They plan for the future but have no plans for the present. You come out with a mediocre game like Snake Valley when all your followers have been asking for LwT2, don't be surprised when the cash flow starts to dwindle.
DMD offers something new in the adult game world. Gone are the days where the female characters looked almost the same. No more lame stories and one dimensional male characters. No more "everyone wants to sleep with everyone" nonsense. DMD offers new character types and models. It gives you a story that can be taken multiple different ways. MrDots also offers and delivers on monthly updates that will keep the fans coming back and draw in those disgruntled many who are tired of waiting for a game a year and a half out. Sometimes it's not always about a game being complete, it's about the journey. That's part of the reason why DMD and BB are such hits.
If MrDots and all the other devs that got booted from Patreon, they should join together to make a single pay-site like S&G/LOP, they could be the next big thing in the adult game world. Even alone, MrDots can garner enough revenue to continue making DMD. I'm even sure that by doing so, he and his team would make more money than before and can make DMD bigger than originally anticipated. These devs shouldn't think about Patreon or Drip. These are small compared to what LOP and S&G have under their belt. They should make their own site, loyal followers like myself will follow them and will be more than willing to pay $20 a month. It's honestly more logical to make a pay-site for MrDots Games than it is to make a new game to please Patreon while slowly working on your money maker.
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Don't blame the devs for their decisions. Blame the market for not supplying them with good Patreon alternatives. Have you seen the new MakerSupport TOS? They're way more restrictive than Patreon. Until adult-focused crowdfunding services start popping up, we'll have to deal with these cancelations/projects getting put on hold.