VN Ren'Py Completed Dating My Daughter [Ch. 1-4 v1.01] [MrDots Games]

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atlas114

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DMD won’t be abandoned entirely, just will take longer to release updates.

i dont blame him since his livelihood depends on making his Patreon overlords happy so that the money keeps flowing. i probably would have done the same if i quit my full time job to focus on making games.

at least now we only have to wait a few days before Chapter 1 and uncensored 16.5 and 9 day’s til v0.17.
 
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I find DMD be one of the best in VN. Unlike others that rush to porn. This VN tries to have character development with the D. Glad to hear that he does not plan to rush to the ending. I hope some new alt crowdfunding can be made.
 
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Shoze said:
That's interesting, because unless Dots personally signed the patch, legally he couldn't be held responsible for its existence, which probably means Patreon's actions aren't to better public relations, but then what other reason does that leave? It's their crusade to remove anything even remotely connected to what is considered a "taboo"?...

I mean, is Bethesda responsible for Skyrim mods that allow the murder/molestation of children? From a legal standpoint, it'd be no different.
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I think the problem here is it doesn't matter. Patreon is a private company, and this isn't a courtroom. If they feel that Mr Dots is trying to circumvent the rules, they can make him do what Patreon wants, or Mr Dots can lose his Patreon privileges. Also, I don't think Patreon is combing the web to find people breaking Patreon rules. I believe it's a disgruntle person or group getting these devs in trouble with Patreon, and in essence letting Patreon know when the devs are trying to work around Patreon's rules. Maybe Patreon has proof by lifting posts Mr Dots has posted on Patreon or other websites claiming to be Mr Dots?

In the end, what you or I think is fair or not doesn't matter. Patreon has it's own agenda to make money, and if they believe being known as a site that turns a blind eye to 'art' with incest, rape or loli, will give them a bad rep and drive customers, $$$, away, they'll do what they think is best for them.
 
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i’ll still play his new game. given his existing resources i would say the v0.01 release would be a nice long day of story introduction as opposed to v0.01 of DMD which was as short as can be.
 
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so i presume we won't see new update after this one until summer,i hope they will change amount of content per update because of longer intervals,it would be nice if mrdots could deliver amount of content for two updates in one from now on
 
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bacchusplateau said:
Yes. DmD had a patch to restore banned content, and Patreon came after Mr Dots for said patch appearance on the interwebs. That's why he was given the ultimatum to remove DmD and any reference to it.
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Thats not how it went, this is how you could restore content.

Quote from Mr.Dots (which appeared on his patreon page as well)

"A HUGE BUG IN THE NEW CHAPTER (IMPORTANT!)
While I was coding the update, I came up with this huge bug that kept crashing my game. I couldn’t solve it in time for the update so I left it there in the code. This bug somehow involves a file called ch2.renpy. It is located inside the game folder. It came with the new Renpy platform, so I don’t know what it exactly does and I’m too afraid to delete it. I hope you don’t experience the same issues that I had. If you have any questions about this bug, please send me a PM.
Sorry about that!"

And now just figure out that a Patreon person would just do the same, delete said file and the content that they dont want reappeared.

He did not go the patch route which other games did, and those other games are still around. And as many others said, with a real anonymous patch to your creation you very highly likely wont be held responsible, even heard from recent cases that Patreon even acknowledged the fact that there are "fan" made patches and said thats fine, as content on Patreon and linked services would be clean.

Mr.Dots probably went onto their list the first time they suspended pages, and then a second time when they found out about his self advertised "solution" on his own Patreon page to restore content. Thats a whole different story.
 
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I think the problem here is it doesn't matter. Patreon is a private company, and this isn't a courtroom. If they feel that Mr Dots is trying to circumvent the rules, they can make him do what Patreon wants, or Mr Dots can lose his Patreon privileges. Also, I don't think Patreon is combing the web to find people breaking Patreon rules. I believe it's a disgruntle person or group getting these devs in trouble with Patreon, and in essence letting Patreon know when the devs are trying to work around Patreon's rules. Maybe Patreon has proof by lifting posts Mr Dots has posted on Patreon or other websites claiming to be Mr Dots?

In the end, what you or I think is fair or not doesn't matter. Patreon has it's own agenda to make money, and if they believe being known as a site that turns a blind eye to 'art' with incest, rape or loli, will give them a bad rep and drive customers, $$$, away, they'll do what they think is best for them.
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I'm not saying it is a courtroom, I'm saying if anyone had a problem with how Patreon operated (if they allowed "not-exactly-incest" content), Patreon could pretty much shrug it off without having to worry about public backlash, which is why I find this 'interesting': If Patreon was fully profit oriented, they'd likely just ask to remove/change incest content only (i.e. change "daughter" to "step-daughter"), they could allow "restoration patches" to circulate (strictly outside of Patreon), and as for public opinion, they could save face by stating "we do not allow incest, period".

If you are right and they can do pretty much whatever they want, then the only reason I can think of as to why they would nuke "not-incest" content is because of their personal preferences, which they seem to value more than profit.
Maybe removing actual incest *is* a good business decision, you are right about that, but entirely nuking everything that was or is, in any way, related to incest? It is most definitely not a decision that'll end in more profit or better reputation.
Not because "boo-hoo, we incest lovers can't have our fun", but because this decision says "whatever business you have, it is not safe on Patreon as they can just fuck you over on a whim".
 
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virtuvoid said:
This new project is going to be a tough sell. MrDots is removing the F/D relationship but otherwise the MC is still an older man romancing younger lovelies.
The HUGE problem is that in DMD, there were many apologists for the early (up to 0.5) slow-burn because crossing the incest barrier may well be very difficult.
Without the incest barrier, and planning an even slower burn--and with Patreon having editorial/censor privileges!--the only hope for the dev-team is to come up with such great models that patrons stick around.
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It will be a faster burn. (Lol, hard to get a burn slower than DMD).
 
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Shoze said:
I'm not saying it is a courtroom, I'm saying if anyone had a problem with how Patreon operated (if they allowed "not-exactly-incest" content), Patreon could pretty much shrug it off without having to worry about public backlash, which is why I find this 'interesting': If Patreon was fully profit oriented, they'd likely just ask to remove/change incest content only (i.e. change "daughter" to "step-daughter"), they could allow "restoration patches" to circulate (strictly outside of Patreon), and as for public opinion, they could save face by stating "we do not allow incest, period".

If you are right and they can do pretty much whatever they want, then the only reason I can think of as to why they would nuke "not-incest" content is because of their personal preferences, which they seem to value more than profit.
Maybe removing actual incest *is* a good business decision, you are right about that, but entirely nuking everything that was or is, in any way, related to incest? It is most definitely not a decision that'll end in more profit or better reputation.
Not because "boo-hoo, we incest lovers can't have our fun", but because this decision says "whatever business you have, it is not safe on Patreon as they can just fuck you over on a whim".
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The thing is, we also heard from a case that they are indeed, as stated with Game of Thrones, not completly nuking incest and everything related. Because from a recent case we heard this:


"Well, I just talked to @Boomatica and the reason why he got shut down was someone reporting him after seeing pictures of Chloe.
Boomatica spoke with Patreon. They said Chloe was looking a bit young but overall they're ok with the incest theme as long as you don't advertise it. Boomatica is removing all pictures/animations of Chloe and all posts mentioning mother/sister from his site and he will be up pretty soon."


Now, what to take from that? That they might be true to their word, or maybe as someone else in that thread said:

"This backs up my theory that the agents reviewing content aren't given solid instructions on what exactly the TOS actually means. Simultaneously distressing and relieving."

who really knows, maybe its like you said, because they actually have preferences and standard over profit (gasp!)

Sadly in the case of DmD he probably poked the hornets nest too often with his own page and own solution to restore banned content, both on the playground they "own".
 
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Yeah, If you want to play the Patreon game, money, you will have to bend over, so that means zero incest, zero rape, and so on. But from a fan/follower of DmD perspective things may look different.
You have been following and supporting a project/developer with your income for more than a year, and now said dev seem to be more preoccupied of maintaining his Patrein page alive than to keep his old project alive, I can see the situation backfiring at Mr.Dots easily.
Yeah, I get it, It's hard to say goodbye to your good monthly check, but on the other hand you could end having a piss off fanbase, the ones paying you in the first place, not Patreon.
Let's see how DmD evolves after this month.
 
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Sorry if this has been answered, but I haven't seen it anywhere.
The release date of 0.17 is 14 Feb, but I haven't seen anything about WHERE it will be released and/or how it will be funded?
Any ideas please?
 
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who really knows, maybe its like you said, because they actually have preferences and standard over profit (gasp!)
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You know, that ONE time you'd actually want a company to focus on profit but then they go and grow a conscious...

I'm saddened I can't see any way it would end well for DMD.
 
gestved

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his new game will be male protagonist, so no worries, I'll play it as well, I'm sure it will be good

the setting looks quite similar to DmD as well, way better than what dark silver is doing releasing a completely different game of the one that brought the success he had, it's just a huge risk. Mr Dots is playing safe and is playing right
 
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