armion82

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even if it takes years.. i'd still rather they keep the pace they were at
We can wait 2-3 years for the real corruption muahaha.No problems.
THIS is the question I've been thinking about for 5 weeks.
Still too early to say. What success will Melody have ? Just this weekend several very successful YT channels were banned. Will this directly or indirectly cause Patreon to nuke its NSFW creators ? Will MrDots find his "ideal" non-Patreon platform ?
These are just some of the issues that can impact DMD.
But if DMD updates every 2-3 months, for example, I'd think what would have taken several monthly updates would be condensed into that one update.
From a business viewpoint, it's all about looking for your NEXT meal ticket. If Melody is successful enough--only MrDots can judge this, ofc--the next project will likely be a Melody-type clone (older male MC acquiring a younger harem) on Patreon. DMD might be SOL.
But for now, DMD must be kept alive awaiting developments on the above-mentioned issues. If needed, DMD will serve as the future meal ticket.
I have the feeling that DmD updates can be bigger,like 1/3 bigger than normal,but will be per 70 days par example.
 

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I'm only 1/4 the way through Ch.1 w/o using the guide and listening to the dad's internal monologue is kinda conflicting with mine which kinda goes something like this...
But really though, it's a great story so far, and I love how much detail the creator's pull into the facial expressions and not rushing the story along. I hope this really develops into some exciting times ahead.
 
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I'm only 1/4 the way through Ch.1 w/o using the guide and listening to the dad's internal monologue is kinda conflicting with mine which kinda goes something like this...
But really though, it's a great story so far, and I love how much detail the creator's pull into the facial expressions and not rushing the story along. I hope this really develops into some exciting times ahead.
If you're at 1/4 of days, you're probably at 1/8 of content, because later days offer (much) more content than the early ones ;)
It's getting better and better :D
 
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@Londo_Mollari I'm taking it in stride, but it seems like a long story. (Also fantastic user name if I may say so)

Also I have one note for the creator. I see a lot of these images have what I call "dead eyes" where there's no glint from light sources. This can be improved by by adding a tranparent half sphere over what would be the "cornea" of the eye and giving it's own high contrast HDR that would capture bright light sources in the render. I'm not familiar with which engine he's using as I'm a blender user myself, but I've mocked up a photoshop example *see below* I think this will significanlly improve the character's facial appearance. Also P.S.S. might be good to adjust the FOV when doing close-ups to avoid distorted faces.
 
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I'm only 1/4 the way through Ch.1 w/o using the guide and listening to the dad's internal monologue is kinda conflicting with mine which kinda goes something like this...
But really though, it's a great story so far, and I love how much detail the creator's pull into the facial expressions and not rushing the story along. I hope this really develops into some exciting times ahead.
Damn it that's a perfect clip for this game. That video came from the Panthers and Packers racing against each other to score the most points to win the tiebreaker and make the playoffs and then it didn't matter because the Cowboys won later that night and eliminated both of them.

Pretty good metaphor for what happened to this game with Patreon.
 
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I think I'm going to ask a very delicate question, so please don't write evil comments that these two games can't be compared.But now BB and DMD are the best in their genre,but BB has more fans .But BB now has big problems with Patreon and DarkSilver is thinking of shutting down project(as I heard),then maybe DMD will be the best in the genre?Correct me please if something missed.Thanks.
 

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I think I'm going to ask a very delicate question, so please don't write evil comments that these two games can't be compared.But now BB and DMD are the best in their genre,but BB has more fans .But BB now has big problems with Patreon and DarkSilver is thinking of shutting down project(as I heard),then maybe DMD will be the best in the genre?Correct me please if something missed.Thanks.
No idea how you decide BB have more fans.Half of the BB thread is almost irrelevant.I'm sure DS will give us at least 0.14 and Lisa's update because with Glamour 2.0,his 30+NPC and 2 MC we won't see any real action before autumn 2018.Melody on the other hand sounds way better.And also will be faster corruption than DmD.And don't forget Dreams of Desire and the new sandbox game of Sin.Parental Love and My Sweet Neighbors are hitting hard too.
 

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I think I'm going to ask a very delicate question, so please don't write evil comments that these two games can't be compared.But now BB and DMD are the best in their genre,but BB has more fans .But BB now has big problems with Patreon and DarkSilver is thinking of shutting down project(as I heard),then maybe DMD will be the best in the genre?Correct me please if something missed.Thanks.
It's all a matter of taste.
I don't know if BB is "better" in numbers (did DarkSilver earn more money than MrDots? Looking at the number of their patrons MrD has about 1k more patrons ... after losing more than 1k after ban of DmD).
Obviously more comments for BB here ... but we cannot say anything about the "quality" of the posts.

But let's assume BB is putted out of contention ... still DmD wouldn't be objective #1 game in the genre ... because tastes matter. I admire DmD. My fav game in this genre by far! But there're probably less people out there for whom DmD is the best in incesct VN gaming than people who thinks other games are better (most of them want more and earlier sex scenes).
 

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Maybe I'm just blind/dense, but can someone lend me a hand and point me to a file or post with the instructions on how to unlock the different achievements/rewards?
Thanks a bunch in advance.
Check out the walkthrough for Ch1 in the main post. The achievements will be listed at the bottom of the pdf file.
 

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No idea how you decide BB have more fans.Half of the BB thread is almost irrelevant.I'm sure DS will give us at least 0.14 and Lisa's update because with Glamour 2.0,his 30+NPC and 2 MC we won't see any real action before autumn 2018.Melody on the other hand sounds way better.And also will be faster corruption than DmD.And don't forget Dreams of Desire and the new sandbox game of Sin.Parental Love and My Sweet Neighbors are hitting hard too.
I thought if the game produces a lot of mods and guides ,the game is popular ,so sorry if it is not.Games such as' Parental love ' and 'My sweet Neighbor' will soon end unfortunately . We can see, in all two games all events move too fast and when events reach sex further it will be difficult to develop a plot.D only after 18 days of Dating gave us a Blowjob. While in "Parental love" ,Ellie gave us a Blowjob to the fifth day if I'm not mistaken.And immediately on the second day began to speak about her feelings to a man she hasn't seen since she was five.. As you can see, the difference is colossal... But at DmD, DmD but in DmD events are moving slowly and I'm glad. So sooner or later, DmD will be the best, I hope.))
 

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I thought if the game produces a lot of mods and guides ,the game is popular ,so sorry if it is not.Games such as' Parental love ' and 'My sweet Neighbor' will soon end unfortunately . We can see, in all two games all events move too fast and when events reach sex further it will be difficult to develop a plot.D only after 18 days of Dating gave us a Blowjob. While in "Parental love" ,Ellie gave us a Blowjob to the fifth day if I'm not mistaken.And immediately on the second day began to speak about her feelings to a man she hasn't seen since she was five.. As you can see, the difference is colossal... But at DmD, DmD but in DmD events are moving slowly and I'm glad. So sooner or later, DmD will be the best, I hope.))
No idea what is soon for you.PL anyway have a big pause between updates/like 2-3 months/so no way to be done this year.In MSN we are at least half a year away from sex with D.So probably also the end will be 2019.Maybe both games will end around same time as Melody:)
 

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Page 1-->Chapter 1--> 100% Achievement/Saves : Post.
Near the bottom of that list.
Good luck!
Thanks, but I MUST be blind, as all I see there is savegames with all the rewards unlocked as opposed to a guide on how to unlock them yourself.
Anyway, I found the official walkthrough which has a rewards guide since, I'm sure it's linked to somewhere here as well.
 

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How goes the battle, bro?
Reading between the lines from MrDots' progress reports to his patrons, I'm about 80% certain (not quite a slam dunk) that he would have preferred to continue DMD.
Obviously, the Melody idea has needed to be reworked to comply with his Patreon overseers. DMD dev-teamers were none too keen even for patrons to "interfere with a dev's artistic vision" [paraphrase]. So how happy can a dev-team be with Patreon interference???
This is a clusterfuck, bro. For all of us concerned...
The battle continues and we are pushing forward.

And I hope you're right about his desire to continue work on DMD. I did my best to preface my statement with "I could be just talking out of my ass". It's just been a consideration that occasionally plagues my view of this whole thing.

But I also know as a writer how sometimes you can just get burned out and uninspired by a project. And when you have an entity actively throwing roadblocks in front of you, it can definitely kill your motivation.

I agree though, given the stipulations laid out by patreon, there was no way to create a sanitized version of DMD that was going to live up to the vision.
 
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I thought if the game produces a lot of mods and guides ,the game is popular ,so sorry if it is not.Games such as' Parental love ' and 'My sweet Neighbor' will soon end unfortunately . We can see, in all two games all events move too fast and when events reach sex further it will be difficult to develop a plot.D only after 18 days of Dating gave us a Blowjob. While in "Parental love" ,Ellie gave us a Blowjob to the fifth day if I'm not mistaken.And immediately on the second day began to speak about her feelings to a man she hasn't seen since she was five.. As you can see, the difference is colossal... But at DmD, DmD but in DmD events are moving slowly and I'm glad. So sooner or later, DmD will be the best, I hope.))
Yeah, I'd gather that about BB as well, it has all those mods and stuff, whilst technically DMD should be much easier to mod because it's RenPy.

Having recently finished the newest DMD, the main things it has going for it in my opinion are the massive amount of content and variety and the absence of grind. Probably the animations, too. Some are a bit rough around the edges, but they're not easy to make, so I'll give them a free pass for that.
Anyway, what I disliked the most in BB, TP or DoD, the endless grinding, thankfully is absent here, one cannot commend the author enough for that.
However, with another game out now to bring the bread to the table, so to speak, it's likely DMDs development will slow down drastically ... time will tell.
 
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There has never been an indication there is any burnout by MDots on DMD at all. In fact, the stuff planned for Chapter 2 for which I can’t divulge is among some of the most titillating and delicious yet. (I’ve just driven @ 600 miles listening to Mikhail Bulgakov’s “Master and Margarita” and my mind is a little off kilter)
Lol, I actually own a print copy of "Master and Margarita" that I've never read. Bought it for a class on "Magic and the Occult" that I ended up dropping because the papers this professor wanted us to write were ridiculous. Most of us were only in there to fulfill our liberal arts credits for our business degrees.

It is where I learned about the Gigas Codex though, so not a total loss.

But I digress, I confess I had no insider knowledge of the situation. Just contemplating how I might feel in a similar situation.

Unfortunately all of this shit was happening before we started our game, so we kind of planned ahead for this. Our story intentionally doesn't define the relationship between two characters in particular. And should the worst come and we get dinged, our code is written in such a way that we can remove that character, finish the beta, and then move on to our next game. Meanwhile, we'll release the final version of the first game with the character reintroduced and distribute it through our website. By that point, our Patreon page will be supporting our new game and all development on the other will have been completed. So finite.

Buuuuut, we don't define their relationship. That implication is solely on the reader...so we aren't really violating anything.
 

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Its going to be an awesome game if and when it ever gets finished, but update to update getting boring. This update had to deal with a bunch of crap such as cassandra and whatnot. Blah blah blah just get back to the F/D romance.
 

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No idea how you decide BB have more fans.Half of the BB thread is almost irrelevant.I'm sure DS will give us at least 0.14 and Lisa's update because with Glamour 2.0,his 30+NPC and 2 MC we won't see any real action before autumn 2018.Melody on the other hand sounds way better.And also will be faster corruption than DmD.And don't forget Dreams of Desire and the new sandbox game of Sin.Parental Love and My Sweet Neighbors are hitting hard too.
Game of Sin? Never heard of it and I couldn't find it with the search function. Can you please give me a link to the thread. Thank you.
 

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No, just slower progress since MrD and his team must develop 2 games instead of one.

We really need a post easy to be found for everyone to stop the same questions and wrong statements reoccur every 3rd post -.-
But have there been such a post or statement?
What I've see is one week, Mr.Dots issues a strong statement with "will finish DMD no matter what" written in bold letters. I had so much respect for him as a creator for sticking to his original creation, and with such a strong statement. Mr.Dots have up and till this point been consistent with his posts and the wording within them. I all fell apart the very next week, with the "we will have to focus on the new game instead". Despite what the team is up against, that is just a total 180 in my book. Leaving only vague assumptions in its stead.
Also from a creators point of view: I've already seen how little weight 'no matter what' holds for him/them. So what will stop him from continuing on Melody after the first release? Commenters on patreon seems overexcited for every new melody-information he throws at them, to a point where i think the ass-kissing is just sickening (sorry, but my interpretation of it), and it's been explained how important the economical aspect is for the teams future. Could be wrong about this, but I really dont see the new game failing at this point. Patreons are excited. Past experience makes the next game able to start out stronger, and the team is able to correct past story-mistakes. Reuseable assets. And so on
if Melody is a success; "hey, people like it. Lets continue". If Melody is mediocre recieved; "Not good nor bad. But we can work with it. It's safer than going back to DMD"..
To many pros for continuing the new project, unless he really true to his first announcement. I would have hoped for a comforting message about DMDs future at this point. Yet nothing, and it seems more and more like an eternal kickstarter-game where fans keeps it artificially alive for a long time to come.

*edit: I hope time will prove me wrong.
 
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