Jeff Steel

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It would be cool, but I think anything like that might draw the attention of the Fun Police. Patreon have been clear there can't be any crossing of the streams. They could easily say that it amounts to using Patreon-funded content to promote material prohibited by Patreon's ToS and nuke MrDots. They've made it clear they won't miss him if that happens.



I hope you're campaigning hard for this, Jeff:

You're Our Man In Havana on this. Based on what you say, the outlook isn't good for Elena introducing F/D roleplay with MC - seems like there's not enough time? Shame if so, but hey-ho. Thanks for keeping us posted. If there's no Chapter 3, the rubber's really going to meet the road for Melody when DMD ends. I bear Melody no ill-will, but it's not a patch on DMD, because... y'know. :)
I post this with a sense of humor, since we have inter crossed DMD into Melody in parts, but this is why D will not appear in Melody, due to the danger of crossing streams:

Egon: Don’t cross the streams.
Peter: Why?
Egon: It would be bad.
Peter: I’m fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean “bad”?
Egon: Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.
Raymond: Total protonic reversal.
Peter: That’s bad. Okay. Alright, important safety tip, thanks Egon.
 

Jeff Steel

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So since Melody at the current rate will be completed before DMD, any idea what the next story might be? eh eh?? ;)
You know, I’ve two really good ideas (imo) - one’s more lighthearted and is a road trip theme ( ); the other is darker and on the vein of Paris Texas ( ) and The Equalizer (but with less violent action - )

But who knows. I’m working on pitches for them now to have something super strong to pitch in 2019.

Then again, some variation of a Casablanca type story also strikes my fancy.
 

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Tyvm, Jeff, for all this info.
Many members have previously questioned my reasoning as to why I believed DMD would eventually have only 2 Chapters of ~28 updates. The 3-Chapter advocates always asked, "But the corruption flower...?"
Could you further inform this thread as to what direction the corruption flower will take? Even if you are only willing to go so far as to tell us what will NOT happen would be good.
In any case, your quoted post is a helluva progress report!
Here are things that people I think expect, and I’m advocating that some of the (perhaps inadvertent or hidden or both) themes help influence how these are played out.

Things expected and not plot spoilers:
1 - Elena confronts D
2 - Elena rationalizes how she fits into the D/F relationship (in the Elena path)
3 - Same for Georgina/Jennifer - or anyone else
4 - Rachel confrontation (and, no, they won’t just shoot her in the head)
5 - D/F vaginal intercourse and strengthening commitment
6 - D/F making a home (alone or with any combination)

Now I think some themes so far are:
- Love (or couple) vs Society
- Love vs Hate (or Fear)
- Coming of Age (and triumph over fear)
- The Meaning of Family

I don’t think these themes need to be played out with a hammer, but some deference to these or some of these themes would be interesting.

For example: D has been a shy character who has grown over the VN to someone who can blow up at her mother. I’m advocating that the final Rachel confrontation for D be a moment of clarity and strength (in contrast to D’s earlier fight (blow up at mom over Skype) or flight (withdraw and give into mom). [Coming of Age / Love vs Fear/Hate]

Meanwhile, Elena imo has non-lasting sexual relationships and imo uses sex the way D uses shyness and withdrawal. Her Coming of Age/Love vs Fear would be making herself vulnerable to love and commitment and risking rejection in order to gain a greater committed relationship.

I’d be interrested in hearing other opinions on the theme issue.
 

Jeff Steel

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Make it black and white and I'm sold. I really can't think of any game that's done that off-hand.
The Road Trip is the closest in style to MDots style so far. I admit My ideas tend to push the characters into darker turmoil - not rape, etc., but more emotional lashing out between the characters. For example, I love Breakfast at a Tiffany’s the movie, but the book being so much darker, it is more what I would push in a VN.
 

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I presume your ab&W comment is to Casablanca?
Yeah, it'd give Dots something unique. I mean DMD is incredible, Melody is definitely a great game... doing something like a B/W Porn VN would be something to add to the portfolio that'd stand out. Doing some post-work on the renders by adding some grain and adjusting the levels to add contrast.
 
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The facts that Mr.Dots is not letting DMD die and the game having such a loyal fan base is evidence that DMD is a very good game.
That being said the daughter is a fairly central character and if you don't like her then the game may lose some of its appeal. I'm not saying not to try DMD it's just not liking D may hamper your enthusiasm over our game.
Yes, agreed!
 

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Here is an insight. The day-for-day format has a magical element to it which, ironically, is also an element of Romeo and Juliet that I just read about (from Bright Hub Education):

The Passage of Time


Poets and lovers contend that time passes differently for those who are in love. Shakespeare's play about literature's most famous lovers compresses events that seem to last years into four days. Is Shakespeare showing us how differently time is measured for lovers? I'll let you decide (with a little help).


  • Day 1 - The morning begins with a Capulet/Montague brawl. The Capulet invitation is received in the afternoon. Romeo mets Juliet and falls in love in the evening.
  • Day 2 - Day 2 begins with the balcony scene followed by Romeo's visit to Friar Lawrence. The two are married in the afternoon, soon followed by Romeo killing Tybalt and being banished. Romeo spends the night with Juliet and Lord Capulet decides Juliet will marry Paris.
  • Day 3 - Romeo leaves at dawn. Juliet is informed of her impending marriage to Paris. Juliet runs to Friar lawrence for advice. Juliet drinks the potion that night.
  • Day 4 - Wedding preparations last throughout the morning. Juliet is found dead. Romeo hears the news and buys poison from an apothecary. At night, Romeo kills Paris at Juliet's tomb and drinks poison. Juliet awakes and stabs herself.
  • Day 5 - The Montagues and Capulets learn of the secret marriage, the double suicide, and end.
 

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you need a save coming back from the vacation, at the office you talk to marcus about going to the police, after that at the police station you need to take the self-defense class or else you get a gameover
Aahhhhh come oooonn! That was ages ago. Fuck! There should be a some save game file. Could anyone has it? Could you give me a save game from the Lucas guy break in to our house?
 
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