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Jeancul
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Good point of view. I appreciate your topic. I realy think a lot of Patreon Creators likes Mr Did not expect to have such a great success (mean a lot of money per month). And they just try to keep the idea of the begin whit some little new idea. But they don t want to take a risk to make more. Because they are not ready for make Something whit more risk. But for the moment is cool. 2 Years before that buisness only exist in the japon culture (Hentai game). But if they want to take the right choice for the futur. Because if not. At a moment the hype will be down. It s an idea, but the right choice at the end of developpement of the game or a chapter of the game. It s to sell the game for like 20 bucks( why not in a special edition whit more stuff) Make a marketing model. And have the posibililty to make more money. But whit this money. Just not creat more milk. But they can engage, like what you say, a true team of developer (C++ Programmers, animators, lighting engineers, modern game engine engineers) Thx for your post again.
You probably didn't understood the concept of Patreon, you're not paying for the games itself, you're supporting the developer making them. If everybody had the same way of thinking as you do, you wouldn't be playing your favorite 3 games you mentioned, the initial patrons believed in the concept and supported the author, even if the first couple of versions were just a 5 minute gameplay. Which author would quit his job to work for free for 1 year to then release a great demo to impress everybody? few people can afford that, unless they got support from somewhere else or they're rich.
And by the way, AAA games have funding of millions of dollars these days, and people working on them are being paid since day 1, most indie developers would never be able to get any funding at all, Patreon is definitely changing the ground on that, that's why it's being so popular and successful.
Patreon is not Steam or the local game store, you're supporting the author, not buying games on a shop.
Of course there are plenty of bad games around (most of them made by kids just pretending to be "developers"), also some other authors are just trying to earn a quick buck and milking as much they can, etc, but that's another story... just my 2 cents...
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I think you misunderstand my point here. Right now, corruption levels are raised at fixed points in the game, regardless of where your love or friendship level may be at that point. I'm suggesting that corruption levels would 'trigger' when say your love level hits a certain level. That way, if you've been getting distracted, well you don't get to touch her yet, etc.
This would of course require 'decoupling' certain events from fixed points in the story line. I.E. she doesn't want to touch your penis until she hits corruption level 6, and that could happen at a later point in the story if you were fooling around with Elena on Day 10, and maybe it doesn't become an option until day 12 or later...
Maybe you should need to have a love level of 55 before corruption level 6 is achieved... Right now the Love stat is almost meaningless, and Friendship is also about as meaningless after the first couple of days.
This would make for a more dynamic story, one that would be more interesting. It would also require a fair amount of reworking of the storyline to allow for this, something I'm guessing that Mr. Dots isn't interested in doing.
As for the other gals, the only way they are going to get their own story is if Mr. Dots decides to give them one. They are his characters after all. Even if someone else were to copy/reverse engineer his art assets, and buy the various locations via the Daz store, it'd still be a rip off of his story, and he could ask whomever to 'cease an desist' in any case if you used the same characters. Plus, he's been allowing these 'side stories' to develop already, so the other characters are indeed part of the story, not just filler. Plus the name of the game is dating your daughter, not boning your daughter, so that doesn't imply exclusivity.
You could do all of this with the existing story without changing the 'core' storyline much, for those people that just want to bone D. This would make the game much me interesting, however, to those that have a 'thing' for one or more of the other characters. So you could still have the story that you want, and other players could have their own goals in the same story.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with D 'opening your eyes' to the relationship you really want. If you decide you like Elena more, the story then becomes how do I choose Elena without losing D as my friend? You don't HAVE to bone D, ya know, unless the story mandates it. This would make for a much more dynamic game with more interesting story paths if you choose to not follow the 'preferred storyline'.
Nonetheless, this won't happen 'cuz Mr. Dots won't invest the time to make this happen. It's just a suggestion anyways, and as far as I know he doesn't read this thread in any case.
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oldje
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Because we have to wait until August, I decided to create my own "climax pic".
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oldje
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Yes, MrDots has a great opportunity to create additional games with his characters. I don't know how busy his personal life is...but hopefully he will become a master of his craft after cutting his teeth with this adventure and start to produce even more games to enjoy and at a fast rate. Hopefully, he doesn't live in a place that takes too much of his profits in taxes and other expenses. I listed some ideas for additional games earlier in this thread.
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Like @csw mentioned above, the concept of Patreon is that it allows you to act as a "patron" in the old sense, you are providing support to artists or developers that you like enabling them to undertake their activities. You aren't buying the game. This is not about getting fully formed games, its about supporting people so they can grow as artists (OK sounds a little hokie but it is part of the rationale). I'm a minimum support type of Patreon patron but I'm happy that even the little money I provide shows an artist that I like his work. In one of the other threads someone mentioned a tip jar, think of the support like that. Some people only put in change, some put in more, none are doing anything but showing appreciation for the work, not paying for the work itself.
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We cannot compare a game released by a game company and its price with a game released by an individual. Of course due to production scale games released by a game company should cost a lot less.
When someone is paying $20 a month for a game on Patreon, he is not paying for the finished product as he would do if he was buying a game from a game company. He is supporting the game developers, so they feel encouraged to go on making that game and are able to buy needed equipment and hire more developers if needed. It means the guy who is paying $20 a month believes the game they are making is exactly the kind of game he wants to play and he is ready to support the production until that game becomes a reality.
Another way to look at this is...
Patronage is like
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, where someone that has extra cash donates/gives it to someone else (an organisation in this example) so that they can use it to better their (the child's) life and do the things they want to, it's that simple.
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RobJoy
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There's a lot of angst out there about the dev's income and the story's relative lack of progress. Perhaps we should look at this from the dev's point of view. He's created a brand, and a story he can hand down to his children and his children's children. It'll be a family business! Don't think of it as months before MC and D get it on - think decades! You'll be able to brag "I was playing DmD when they first got naked together, back in the Trump presidency, when gas was just $2.50 a gallon and there was no shuttle service to the moon! You had to type on your computer!' 'We know, grandpa, we know. Now eat your mushy peas ...'
paladin07
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Playing Dating my Daughter will become a tradition in families across this great country, handed down, father to son, mother to daughter... wait....
RobJoy
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I really do not care if he makes millions.
I do care however, about the speed of content delivery.
If we get a weekly update 10 minutes long, it is KIIIIIINDA ok, but you're still mad a little.
If you get an update 10 minutes long monthly, I call that ripping off.
Have you worked in DAZ studio?
You can quickly position the models just the way you want in 10 minutes flat (per model). After that there is perhaps 15-20 minutes of tweaking required.
So in order to generate 10 minutes, you would need to make about 20-40 scenes with text.
In a day, one can do a lot.
In a month,.... DAMN.
So WTF is the holdup? Either these people are not talented when it comes to working with modelling and animation software, or they require too much tweaking and CGI render time because their PCs are office PCs instead of the multicore monsters one can get cheap today ($2-3k).