armion82

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Alright I will but how much focus is there on the other options? Don't mind the daughter but the other female characters don't get much so far. If it remains 95% focused on the daughter I may have to drop this game (guess the name of the game should have hinted that but I was still hoping for more balance)
So far -DMD0.19-you can fuck Elena 4 times /day 11,17,18 and 19/,Georgina 2 times/day 12 and start of ch.2/,Olivia 1 time/day9,but then you can't fuck Elena on day 11/ and Jennifer 1 failed attempt/start of ch.2/.That's of course if you go for all girls.
 
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Xiphais

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Hi, I played chp.1 when it was released. But never played chp.2. So after downloading chp.2, i need to add manually points and other choice staff since I lost my saves. Can you guys help me with points and best choices to begin chp.2?
 

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Anyone happens to have complete save? To see all "rewards" -.- I kinda reached the point in the game where that asshole dude comes to my apartment and gropes the daughter, whereas I punch and knee him but still get game cover screen.

A.k.A I screwed up really early in the game somewhere and I have no patience to go through it all ..again..
 

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Anyone happens to have complete save? To see all "rewards" -.- I kinda reached the point in the game where that asshole dude comes to my apartment and gropes the daughter, whereas I punch and knee him but still get game cover screen.

A.k.A I screwed up really early in the game somewhere and I have no patience to go through it all ..again..
you must have her take self defense classes
 
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Anyone happens to have complete save? To see all "rewards" -.- I kinda reached the point in the game where that asshole dude comes to my apartment and gropes the daughter, whereas I punch and knee him but still get game cover screen.

A.k.A I screwed up really early in the game somewhere and I have no patience to go through it all ..again..
You have to go to police and sign her up to take self defense class
 

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Go report Lucas to the police and take D to self-defense classes.
 

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Hi, I played chp.1 when it was released. But never played chp.2. So after downloading chp.2, i need to add manually points and other choice staff since I lost my saves. Can you guys help me with points and best choices to begin chp.2?
you can start ch.2 from ch.1 ending... this transfer all setting...
 

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The developer is extending too often the release dates. As a free user, i have no rights to criticize him/her. However this may result to lose some of his/her patrons.
those who wanted to leave due to the 1month DMD/2 months Melody have already left. He doesn't have to worry about this
 
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armion82

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The developer is extending too often the release dates. As a free user, i have no rights to criticize him/her. However this may result to lose some of his/her patrons.
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.I am playing the game since september 2016.
DmD is maybe the only game that get all updates except 1/january 2018,when Patreon open hell/ right on time.
 
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The developer is extending too often the release dates. As a free user, i have no rights to criticize him/her. However this may result to lose some of his/her patrons.
I don't have a problem. I've cancelled all my patreons as I've become cynical about subscriptions for these things. I'll happily kick £10 towards Mr Dots when the next chapter comes though. If that takes 1 month, 3 months or 12 months I'm giving him the same amount.
 
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Man I'm so hyped up for the update, the next 4-5 days couldn't go any slower, ugh! :p
DMD has always had a special place in my heart because that, Depraved Awakening, Dreams of Desire, Daughter for Dessert and Milfy City and Dual Family were my very first adult games (that weren't flash games) that I played, they're the reason to my transcendence to adult gaming world a little over half a year ago, and I've been on that road ever since and haven't looked back! <3
 

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dmd isn't in patreon so he can more freely decide when to update.
 
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It's obviously a really great adult VN game. That's not for debate. I just have a small complaint/critique (spoilers ahead):


Ok, my main issue revolves around the way that this game (and many others) handle NTR.

DMD has 3 examples (that I know of) in the first chapter alone. I don't have a problem with that! In fact, my issue is that it's not really NTR but the teased illusion of NTR. Now, I'm aware that some enjoy NTR and others don't. I'd loosly estimate that 75% don't want any of it at all and 25% do or are indifferent. Yet, the worst thing a game can do is try to ride a line that appeases everyone on that subject.

I happen to enjoy it but not because I like cuck porn or scenarios. In actual life I find it lame and kind of laughable. However, I'm also incapable of actually inserting myself into these games. Even if I use my name for the MC, I can't fully believe that it's me. Therefore, that's not my daughter/gf/wife so that's not my daughter/gf/wife being fucked by another man. To me (and many NTR lovers) it's just a sexy woman being fucked. It's a cheap but effective way to illicit emotion from the player.

The subject of rape them comes up. Again, I don't enjoy the thought of an actual person being raped. I don't watch rape porn, for instance. Yet, in a VN I don't mind it because it's fake...It's a fake story involving comically BS sexual scenarios. Let the insanity fly if just a BS story. JMHO.

All that said, DMD dangles NTR/rape in front of the gamer to various emotions. Some hate it, some don't mind it and some want to see it. None are wrong and none are right but what seems wrong (or at least stupid/lazy) is removing the option entirely while still dangling it. Don't put for the possibility multiple times only to back out each time.

A VN takesa long time to make. By all means, have the actual sex scenes be made up of dozens of renders and animations! Spend 99% of resources on what you intend. I would simply propose that you make 5-10 renders and a little script to appease those that would like to see the implied NTR/rape.
So, at the beach simply include 5-10 renders showing what is implied. Even if it still delivers a game over, do it. It adds a couple more days to the development that already takes months anyway.
The douche at the bar you play pool with FOR YOUR DAUGHTER'S PUSSY (lol), give the actual option to lose. Again, it's 5-10 renders of her getting fucked.
Lucas? Same. Except I'd have made that a full-fledged direction in the game. Letting him (or making the choices that allow it to happen) should be an optional part of the story itself. Again, 5-10 renders and the ramifications to the future of the story is all it takes even then.

In short, it just seems like an obvious addition that too many games hint at but never have. Either do it 100% or don't 100%. Either seem as simple so I don't know why so many ride that line of appeasing but ultimately disappointing both.

PS: DMD is not the only game to do this. Another specific instance for me is in Acting Lessons. Megan is home alone as you go to fuck your ex. Her friend's psycho step-dad breaks in and tries to rape her. Ok. At that point the dev has a clear option to please eveyone and doesn't! Megan gets away and anti-NTR loved it while pro-NTR were disappointed. Fine...but just add both options. Why not? It's a few renders and a bit of story tweaks to please everyone. I don't get it why more don't do it.
 

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It's obviously a really great adult VN game. That's not for debate. I just have a small complaint/critique (spoilers ahead):


Ok, my main issue revolves around the way that this game (and many others) handle NTR.

DMD has 3 examples (that I know of) in the first chapter alone. I don't have a problem with that! In fact, my issue is that it's not really NTR but the teased illusion of NTR. Now, I'm aware that some enjoy NTR and others don't. I'd loosly estimate that 75% don't want any of it at all and 25% do or are indifferent. Yet, the worst thing a game can do is try to ride a line that appeases everyone on that subject.

I happen to enjoy it but not because I like cuck porn or scenarios. In actual life I find it lame and kind of laughable. However, I'm also incapable of actually inserting myself into these games. Even if I use my name for the MC, I can't fully believe that it's me. Therefore, that's not my daughter/gf/wife so that's not my daughter/gf/wife being fucked by another man. To me (and many NTR lovers) it's just a sexy woman being fucked. It's a cheap but effective way to illicit emotion from the player.

The subject of rape them comes up. Again, I don't enjoy the thought of an actual person being raped. I don't watch rape porn, for instance. Yet, in a VN I don't mind it because it's fake...It's a fake story involving comically BS sexual scenarios. Let the insanity fly if just a BS story. JMHO.

All that said, DMD dangles NTR/rape in front of the gamer to various emotions. Some hate it, some don't mind it and some want to see it. None are wrong and none are right but what seems wrong (or at least stupid/lazy) is removing the option entirely while still dangling it. Don't put for the possibility multiple times only to back out each time.

A VN takesa long time to make. By all means, have the actual sex scenes be made up of dozens of renders and animations! Spend 99% of resources on what you intend. I would simply propose that you make 5-10 renders and a little script to appease those that would like to see the implied NTR/rape.
So, at the beach simply include 5-10 renders showing what is implied. Even if it still delivers a game over, do it. It adds a couple more days to the development that already takes months anyway.
The douche at the bar you play pool with FOR YOUR DAUGHTER'S PUSSY (lol), give the actual option to lose. Again, it's 5-10 renders of her getting fucked.
Lucas? Same. Except I'd have made that a full-fledged direction in the game. Letting him (or making the choices that allow it to happen) should be an optional part of the story itself. Again, 5-10 renders and the ramifications to the future of the story is all it takes even then.

In short, it just seems like an obvious addition that too many games hint at but never have. Either do it 100% or don't 100%. Either seem as simple so I don't know why so many ride that line of appeasing but ultimately disappointing both.

PS: DMD is not the only game to do this. Another specific instance for me is in Acting Lessons. Megan is home alone as you go to fuck your ex. Her friend's psycho step-dad breaks in and tries to rape her. Ok. At that point the dev has a clear option to please eveyone and doesn't! Megan gets away and anti-NTR loved it while pro-NTR were disappointed. Fine...but just add both options. Why not? It's a few renders and a bit of story tweaks to please everyone. I don't get it why more don't do it.
This seems to be more of a whinge about games not including content that you personally want and not an actual critique of the game or other games. I mean, you state it yourself that you'd, "...loosly estimate that 75% don't want any of it [NTR] at all and 25% do or are indifferent...". Now I'm not a developer but if I thought that three quarters of my potential audience didn't want NTR in their game, then regardless of whether I liked it or not, I'd probably leave it out. Why alienate 75% (your figures) of your customer base for one path in your game, that in a game like DMD would really detract from the romantic F/D relationship.

The other point is that a large section of people hate that kind of content, so maybe the dev is in the camp where NTR isn't preferred?
 
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