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"Problematic"
hahahahahahahahaha oh man
Just no, fiction is not reality, fiction does not nay should not answer to reality, be accountable to reality or be restricted by whatever political climate you have been lead to believe exists because it would somehow change how people think to read a fictional story, that is not how the human brain works, youve been lied to.
In fact the more "problematic" content there is the better, its always the most interesting, the ones that dont give a shit about the moralism of the day.
Absolute Freedom for art. Always.
Except, your living in a reality where the industry is defined by that political climate and the realities of why those things are problematic are also well defined. My post wasn't meant to restrict artistic freedom but to point out that Martins inclusion seemed based on those same political factors rather than developed rationally within the plot. But seriously, it's plot left the rails for fetishism already so what's one more, right?
 

eddie987

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True, but I think it could have been done better. Honestly, there are a lot of sexual situations in DMD that are barely held together for the sake of options and I think if they are going to go that route then they might as well just wrap the whole plot and publish a catalog of multiple choice scene options. It wouldn't be too hard to make things a bit more plausible and further the story experience. But who am I right?
I know what you mean. I honestly think that all these different sharing routes are just to please as many people as they can, and to drag the game out for as long as possible, so it's not a "passion project" for the people developing it anymore, but more of a job. MrDots didn't want to do NTR so he compromised with swinging. I totally get it, since more people mean more money, but I believe that's the reason behind the situations that barely hold together, that you mentioned. It supposed to be "Dating my Daughter", not "Sharing my Daughter with everyone we meet" after all... I might be totally wrong of course. It's just how I see it.
 
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I know what you mean. I honestly think that all these different sharing routes are just to please as many people as they can, and to drag the game out for as long as possible, so it's not a "passion project" for the people developing it anymore, but more of a job. MrDots didn't want to do NTR so he compromised with swinging. I totally get it, since more people mean more money, but I believe that's the reason behind the situations that barely hold together, that you mentioned. It supposed to be "Dating my Daughter", not "Sharing my Daughter with everyone we meet" after all... I might be totally wrong of course. It's just how I see it.
I get that they realize that it's a fetish crowd that this game would appeal to and that they feel that people open to that fetish would probably like to see others but I think it falls short on delivery of the main story line and makes an ultimately satisfying love relationship between the main characters virtually impossible to rationalize.
 
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played d path jennifer/swing/etc path thru and it was very nice as usual tomorrow d path w/o jennifer/etc to see non-sharing scenes.
 

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I get that they realize that it's a fetish crowd that this game would appeal to and that they feel that people open to that fetish would probably like to see others but I think it falls short on delivery of the main story line and makes an ultimately satisfying love relationship between the main characters virtually impossible to rationalize.
The only sharing path that makes sense for me, (the way the story has evolved so far) is with Elena. Everything else seems forced. I personally like all the girls in the game, and I have different saves for each one of them, (not for the dudes thought. I don't want any other "D"s near D...) but that's the only path that makes sense storywise. But that's probably because I play these games to take my mind off things, and not to jerk off, so I prefere games with a decent storyline. People who just want fap material will probably go for quantity over quality which seems to be the "theme" of the recent updates. The game is still good if you play it a certain way. Not as good as it was before they moved, but good enough to keep playing it.
 
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The only sharing path that makes sense for me, (the way the story has evolved so far) is with Elena. Everything else seems forced. I personally like all the girls in the game, and I have different saves for each one of them, (not for the dudes thought. I don't want any other "D"s near D...) but that's the only path that makes sense storywise. But that's probably because I play these games to take my mind off things, and not to jerk off, so I prefere games with a decent storyline. People who just want fap material will probably go for quantity over quality which seems to be the "theme" of the recent updates. The game is still good if you play it a certain way. Not as good as it was before they moved, but good enough to keep playing it.
It's not that I can't be ok with a sharing path, it's that it doesn't make sense with the fanatical devotion the daughter has with the father or the jealous nature of the father. If the arc leads to it in a rational manner then i get that it's included but you have to rationalize it with the story or you lose the main objective of the game and tbqh, you're right that only Elena seems to add up and that's still flimsy. If the MC was so free and easy with guys on his daughter and turned on by it then we wouldn't have had a few of the crucial story elements.
 
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It's not that I can't be ok with a sharing path, it's that it doesn't make sense with the fanatical devotion the daughter has with the father or the jealous nature of the father. If the arc leads to it in a rational manner then i get that it's included but you have to rationalize it with the story or you lose the main objective of the game and tbqh, you're right that only Elena seems to add up and that's still flimsy. If the MC was so free and easy with guys on his daughter and turned on by it then we wouldn't have had a few of the crucial story elements.
Unfortunately it's very common to see people acting out of character just for the sake of a sex scene. Most of the times it's a woman turning dumb for no reason and gets "tricked" into sex or she becomes a cock hungry slut who'll fuck anyone, from one day to another... Another cliche you'll see here is the "since I fucked someone else, she can fuck whoever she wants". But yeah. The MC is definitely the jealous type, or he was in the first two chapters and now he does a 180 if you go for the sharing routes. The same goes for D. She keeps saying how much he loves him and wants to be with him and only him and blah blah blah and if you let Ryan take a topless photo of her, she suddenly likes him, and she's gonna fuck a dude she barely knows, because she watched interracial porn... At least if you avoid those paths the only weird behavior is that D becomes an exhibitionist way too fast, but you still get the jealousy and the devotion you mentioned from the characters. The Olivia/Graham thing also seems weird to me. It's going to a "They are also a father-daughter couple, we have something in common, so let's fuck each other's daugher. Oh! And we also owe them..." relationship? It's actually interesting how much less sense the game makes, just because you are on a different path.
 

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I think the sharing path with Olivia/Graham makes sense, they are basically the older version of D/MC. They've helped MC/D more than the other characters in the game. MC has also had sex with Olivia and Olivia and D are starting to do what D/Elena did earlier in the game. (touching, kissing etc.). If you remember, Graham already gave Olivia permission to have sex with MC in chapter 2 and he "shared" her with MC when they went to their apartment after the club.
 

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I think the sharing path with Olivia/Graham makes sense, they are basically the older version of D/MC. They've helped MC/D more than the other characters in the game. MC has also had sex with Olivia and Olivia and D are starting to do what D/Elena did earlier in the game. (touching, kissing etc.). If you remember, Graham already gave Olivia permission to have sex with MC in chapter 2 and he "shared" her with MC when they went to their apartment after the club.
It makes sense to be friends, not to fuck each other. The Olivia thing was optional, you didn't have to fuck her if you didn't want to, but even if you did, it seems more like Graham let you fuck his daughter because he wanted to fuck yours, than a natural thing. And the touching-kissing you mentioned isn't something mutual, but Olivia trying to fuck D in every chance she has. Every single action was initiated by her.
 
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The only sharing path that makes sense for me, (the way the story has evolved so far) is with Elena. Everything else seems forced. I personally like all the girls in the game, and I have different saves for each one of them, (not for the dudes thought. I don't want any other "D"s near D...) but that's the only path that makes sense storywise. But that's probably because I play these games to take my mind off things, and not to jerk off, so I prefere games with a decent storyline. People who just want fap material will probably go for quantity over quality which seems to be the "theme" of the recent updates. The game is still good if you play it a certain way. Not as good as it was before they moved, but good enough to keep playing it.
I think the sharing path with Olivia/Graham makes sense, they are basically the older version of D/MC. They've helped MC/D more than the other characters in the game. MC has also had sex with Olivia and Olivia and D are starting to do what D/Elena did earlier in the game. (touching, kissing etc.). If you remember, Graham already gave Olivia permission to have sex with MC in chapter 2 and he "shared" her with MC when they went to their apartment after the club.
It's a more well rounded rationalization to be sure.
 

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It makes sense to be friends, not to fuck each other. The Olivia thing was optional, you didn't have to fuck her if you didn't want to, but even if you did, it seems more like Graham let you fuck his daughter because he wanted to fuck yours, than a natural thing. And the touching-kissing you mentioned isn't something mutual, but Olivia trying to fuck D in every chance she has. Every single action was initiated by her.
Just drop it.You can't win this one.Talking about making sense in incest game.You have lost from the start.
Just play the path you like and if there is no such try another game.
 

eddie987

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Just drop it.You can't win this one.Talking about making sense in incest game.You have lost from the start.
Just play the path you like and if there is no such try another game.
You obviously didn't read my previous comments but that's fine. It's better to get into a conversation from the start though and not from the last thing you heard/read.
 

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"They are also a father-daughter couple, we have something in common, so let's fuck each other's daugher. Oh! And we also owe them..." relationship?[/ISPOILER] It's actually interesting how much less sense the game makes, just because you are on a different path.
the only sharing stuff that feels remotely flushed out, unfortunately, is Elaina/ Jenna stuff, Olivia's stuff could be interesting but is mostly rushed. to me the parts that make the most sense are the "implied path' the other stuff is their for the fans who want that kind of content.
 

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the only sharing stuff that feels remotely flushed out, unfortunately, is Elaina/ Jenna stuff, Olivia's stuff could be interesting but is mostly rushed. to me the parts that make the most sense are the "implied path' the other stuff is their for the fans who want that kind of content.
That's what we were talking about with Casual Observer. That some stuff seem "forced", like the devs put them in the game just to appeal to more people and not because they wanted to. Like I said before, from the sharing paths, only the one with Elena makes sense to me. The way the characters developed up to the second chapter at least.
 

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i am also not too fond of the sharing paths, but its fine as long as its optional, having more build up for those paths is ofc not possible with the amount of updates left, but i think there will be at least one more thing d or f need too say yes too before graham or martin do something with d, it would not make sense that those encounters would be on rails now maybe with martin, but d have not indicated in anyway that she is interested in graham. Something else in the info for this update mr. dots mentioned that love points will have an impact on endings, thats interesting you loose a lot of points by going some poly routes or share route and combining them even more, i hope the team is not planning on doing it like in melody, in that one a perfect ending could only be achieved on a pure route.
 

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I don´t get why some people don´t understand that this is a porn game and it´s not intended to be too close to reality just like with porn itself. What options the author of this game chooses to be in it, is on his own accord.

Ladies and gentlemen, why you don´t enjoy this cool game and forget about all unnecessary things?
 
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Just drop it.You can't win this one.Talking about making sense in incest game.You have lost from the start.
Just play the path you like and if there is no such try another game.
Fair point, but I don't think it's too much to ask to have stories add up to the results. It's a visual novel so the story being plausible shouldn't be too much to expect but I realize that it would take a lot more content to get it to those ends within the bounds of the story line and accept that there are limitations to whats realistically possible to expect on delivering it.
 

absalon1977

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and from that it should be clear i have a playthrough with all sharing on, including elena and jennifer mostly too see how the story progress like that, but will most likely not continue it if it will not be possible at some point too avoid a encounter with another guy.
 

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No, they actually can't because the game is no longer being developed on Patreon, even with Mr. Dots still being on Patreon. If Patreon tried to do that, they would have no leg to stand on because they cannot prove that the money being obtained for Melody is being used for DMD. This is even more true with DMD being developed on SubscribeStar now. Patreon is not as all encompassing on the internet as many people think, it just feels that way because they are still the biggest crowdfunded site out there, but with all these bullshit rules, they have been slowly, but surely, driving people away. This is why SubscribStar has started to get a foothold in this market. Finally, as far as Melody is concerned, it all comes down to content and nothing in that game violates Patreon's rules. So, Mr. Dots is free to make DMD however he wants as long as it does not involve Patreon, while also making games like Melody and being compliant to Patreon.
Go back a few hundred pages and read discussion on this before...Or even just go to his site and read issues game is having, Depending on which type of funding account was at time available or one Mr. Dots has with Patreon, they can still control his funds. Patreon (Which is owned by PayPal) wasn't only looking to get this type of game off their site, they were looking to stop them completely. We all might follow Mr. Dots on his various pages but Patreon also has access to see what he's doing and as long as he's on Patreon they will have that access. DMD was making an INCREDIBLE amount of money monthly and if by any chance that funds are still being held from him (None of my business if they are or not) Melody could possibly be the main support and that's not making nearly as much a month as DMD once did
 

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I don't get why some people don't understand that this is a fucking thread and people will talk about what they like and dislike about the game they played. If someone says that he doesn't like something about a game, or he finds that something doesn't make sense it doesn't mean he disliked the whole game or that he's trying to be an asshole. That's the point of a thread ffs! For people to exchange opinions about specific topics!
 
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