jamdan

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I read it, but it was you who said back there that there may be a light NTR,
I'm totally against it, so I gave up on the game,
and I think the game is going in a way that I won't like,
so it's better to stop playing than to be disappointed.
About what is written on the website,
that is simply the opinion of the writer,
not an absolute truth.
You, me or anyone else, we have different opinions,
What do you think is correct I may not find and vice versa,
Each person has their own definition of betrayal,
and it will not be you or anyone else who will tell her whether it is or not.
Just don't take it personally, we just have different opinions and positions.
Do you know what light-NTR is?

Some would argue there is already light-NTR, with the sharing paths. D's dream about Martin could be too.

His comment didn't even say there will be NTR, in fact he has said the opposite a lot of times. All he said is he himself likes it as a concept.

7. I still think some NTR-light theme is a great dramatic tension filled concept, is a theme used from Casablanca to Back to the Future, and anyone who disagrees is a low self esteem weenie (oops, how’d that get in here)

He then said MrDots doesn't want any kind of NTR in the game, so there will definitely be no NTR in DMD.

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You are offended because you didn't understand what he said. You replied before this was edited, hopefully this explains it better.

1- Jeff likes it as a concept
2- Jeff has said there won't be any lots of times
3- MrDots doesn't want any NTR at all

Therefor, there will not be any.
 
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Jeff Steel

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Dude, I'm tired of explaining, it's no use, they don't understand or don't want to understand.
About this avoidable thing,
I'm sick of that word already.
For me (my opinion) the D-only route has already given what it had to give, it is very repetitive and massive,
there's nothing more to add,
then (my opinion) it could be over,
insisting on it, will end up losing all grace (my opinion).
I was on the way to sharing, but it was within my acceptable limit, as long as I didn't have NTR (my opinion).
I’m not saying that there will be,
but if it depends on the ideas expert,
probably will,
even this bestiality thing came up.
They will add another chapter, so a lot can happen,
and I think (my opinion) that I'm not going to like some things.
money speaks louder, as long as someone is paying, they put something (my opinion).
I feel that the game I liked the most is becoming a milking.
If someone is going to answer my topic, please maintain respect, I didn't offend anyone I believe,
so stop responding offending me.
ask for calm for those people who offend me, not for me.
The irony is having either bestiality (which is still on the go category) or NTR (which is still on the no go category) - having either of those could be a net loss in income. The milking concept has been argued over and over the past three years, and I must say that MDots runs the story the way he wants it to be told - in the face of slow burn complaints - and if so, in the face of bestiality complaints. Ironically, he did buckle under NTR complaints mostly because (Imo) he personally did not have any issue with ntr one way or another.

Realistically, every artist should create the product they way they wish, and make adjustments to Patron wishes as they seem fit. This story, for example, is not going into Chapter 4 to milk, for example, but because there are a myriad of story concepts that can’t be met by the time Chapter 3 gets too big the it becomes time for a separate download data file (Chapter 4).
 

armion82

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Dude, I'm tired of explaining, it's no use, they don't understand or don't want to understand.
About this avoidable thing,
I'm sick of that word already.
For me (my opinion) the D-only route has already given what it had to give, it is very repetitive and massive,
there's nothing more to add,
then (my opinion) it could be over,
insisting on it, will end up losing all grace (my opinion).
I was on the way to sharing, but it was within my acceptable limit, as long as I didn't have NTR (my opinion).
I’m not saying that there will be,
but if it depends on the ideas expert,
probably will,
even this bestiality thing came up.
They will add another chapter, so a lot can happen,
and I think (my opinion) that I'm not going to like some things.
money speaks louder, as long as someone is paying, they put something (my opinion).
I feel that the game I liked the most is becoming a milking.
If someone is going to answer my topic, please maintain respect, I didn't offend anyone I believe,
so stop responding offending me.
ask for calm for those people who offend me, not for me.
From where come that idea about milking anyway?
The game was suppose to be around 35-40 updates and that is nothing new from more than 3 years.
Bestiality,sharing,BDSM,pregnancy and all other stuff if ever happen will be all optional.Maybe except pregnancy.
Yes,Patreon's crusade made us all think that the game will suffer and will have way less updates.
But in the end we probably will be pretty close to the initial idea.
 

RustyV

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IMO I think the slow burn concept works for this VN. It has helped give the game more depth than the average adult VN, the characters have developed personalities, and there is time to add or delete ideas without effecting immediate game play.
I think those who play this game after it is completed will appreciate the slower story development.
My pet peeve was the long delay release schedule with Melody, but has been altered with SL for more frequent updates.
I wonder if there is a Mr.Dots biased toward MD? :unsure:
 

cri

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My intention is not to throw shit, since I like this game a lot, but do not you think that the quality of the renders has been reducing programmatically since chapter 2? I understand that Cap 1 was rendered again and that is why it has tanca quality in the shading and all that. Do you know if the same will be done with the other chapters?
 

Stephan23

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Is there some clinical adventure planned for daughter? She has to go to the doctor. Man in the 60s. He suggest a full Check up. Daughter agrees because of her upcoming Model carrier. The examines are going more and more intimitate. Daughter get's aroused because of the Situation and the touching. ......
 

Goblin Baily: DILF

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Okay, to clarify things from me and from Hearsz.

1. Bestiality is not off the table.
2. Don’t know yet how it will manifest (with D; not with D)
3. Don’t know when it will manifest (though almost certainly not in Chapter 3 - though don’t put that in stone)
4. Just my opinion, but likely to be a dog
5. A dog will appear in the next release, but don’t know if that dog will have the bestiality role - or if that dog will just be a day-player (btw, the dog scene coming up is my idea and I am jazzed to see how MDots renders that scene)
6. Any bestiality will be avoidable, of course
7. I still think some NTR-light theme is a great dramatic tension filled concept, is a theme used from Casablanca to Back to the Future, and anyone who disagrees is a low self esteem weenie (oops, how’d that get in here)
8. The main administrator over on Discord is very opposed to bestiality and I value his opinion - his Issue is the lack of “free agency” similar to the issue with child-adult sex (that being said he also does not seem opposed to the dog that jumps up on the bed and starts licking at genitals while a couple has sex - since this is a fairly common experience)
9. I’ve opined that I don’t find dog renders in sex personally sexually exciting, and if we were doing this, I suggest we focus on the female reaction and not on the dog
10. I’ve also opined that male dogs in sex don’t thrust a lot and, in reality, they hump, then stick it in, the knot forms and then they just stand there
11. Bestiality has never been off the topic for either MDots or Hearsz, and there are notes on it from before Chapter 2 was even considered, as well as notes in the planning documents for it to possibly appear in Chapter 2. (I won’t go into details because this is one of those “walk the line” imo Like with D-another male sharing).
12. The plot notes I mention in 11 above, one was by MDots and one was by Hearsz, so neither are opposed to bestiality Per se.
13. Imo, I would prefer to go down the route of D and a dog involvement in a “soft core” way than Elena or Tyra in a “hard core” way - but that is only imo.

There you go. While the above does will not please everyone - and possibly not anyone - it does set forth the various shades of grey on this issue.
I believe adding those NTRish undertones is oversaturating the story with conflict... incest alone is enough to cause drama especially when society has to react to it... for years Rachel was trying to separate D and her father and now that she has some ammunition in the form of incest., she won't use it but join in ? In creative writing they teach about The Truth and The Lie, DMD reached the second act of the plot, and all of a sudden you want to change the axis of the conflict ? Rookie mistake....
 

Honey hunters

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I'm new to renpy , by making visual novel game , i written a code in script.rpy and when launched game in Ren'Py Launcher by clicking the start game The image of the character was not displaying and text only showing please help me.......
 

Paz

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I'm new to renpy , by making visual novel game , i written a code in script.rpy and when launched game in Ren'Py Launcher by clicking the start game The image of the character was not displaying and text only showing please help me.......
Your question would be far better suited for https://f95zone.to/forums/dev-help.113/ (and quite more likely to get help). On that note, have you defined your images?
 

irezawa

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Here's the thing with that, there are and have been back and forths for quite a while. And there are also things that I take issue with.

1. I take issue with the fact that it was planned from the start, and for a very long time.
- You can clearly see it the Fetishes list
- Bonus points for the doggy render to lure more suckers in, like me.
A keen eye will observe that there are entries mentioning it who are dated 2 years into developing the game.

2. I take issue with the fact that the "authorities" that adamantly said NO and the ones that propagate that information, are writers and moderators and members of the fan discord, none of which had anything to do with the game for a very long time.

3. I take issue with the fact that the excuse basically is "Awww, poor MrDots really wants to do it, but the meanie writers won't let him". Really?
And on top of that the reason for not allowing him (it really sounds silly as I type it) are:
-They don't like it.
-The usual way of having intercourse with animals is not sexy. As nothing else in the game is idealized.
Please, go to your employer and say "Boss, remember when we said we're gonna makes these boxes in red and blue? Well, make them blue only. I don't like red. I'm gonna hold my breath till it happens". See how it goes.

4. I take issue with the fact that this whole time it has been "yes-yes-yes-yes-NO", which frankly seems like a well-placed bait for extra support. At least he got a couple hundred bucks from me so I guess it worked.

5. I take issue with the fact that MrDots is widely kept on a pedestal and can do no wrong, and shame on you if you have a different opinion.

6. I take issue with many people who feel that anything being done with their digital crush that they do not like is despicable, even if they never have to experience it themselves. Withdraw your troops.

7. I take issue with the fact that whoever as so much suggests than plans should be adhered to, or hopes for a change of heart gets told to shut up because no-one else likes these things, and they are a leeching minority anyway so who cares.

So us being into different wavelengths might be because we've had different things suggested to anticipate.
It's not about anyone "getting a fix", as if this is something people requested out of the blue and not hinted upon, or something that people need to get out of their system.

I apologize for making this a bit long, and for side-tracking the thread. I will not disturb this matter further.
Everyone can go back into commenting how D's face is adorable for pages upon pages.
Sounds like you should demand your money back.
 
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