VN Ren'Py Completed Dating My Daughter [Ch. 1-4 v1.01] [MrDots Games]

[Trikus]

Unlike others I'm mainly here for the story as I am really invested in these characters. This isn't a "go out and have sex" or harem game. It is a narrative and one that is going day by day. Melody may gone faster but that game actually spans several months. DMD is only in the second month of MC and D's relationship. You cannot expect massive changes to a character to occur quickly, especially when she only lost her virginity 19 days ago (day 21). If you want a game where a girl turns into sex craved monster after having sex for the first time, this isn't the game for you.

What I liked:
- Georgina. She is my favourite side girl, and this updates shows why. The cat fight was hilarious. She is genuinely invested in not only F but D as well. Their three-way relationship seems like it will genuinely work, even more so than Elena. I loved their discussion about one on one encounters and not just with Georgina and MC but Georgina and D. Georgina seems to round out the family dynamic that D has missed out on perfectly.
- Rachel's confession. It was handled well and I like that there were repercussions for finding out about her life.
- Martin content. People need to remember this is only day 40 of F and D being together. Martin is a decent guy and not just looking to get his dick wet. It will take time to open up D to the idea of more than one guy in a sexual encounter.
- The modelling competition. I really like that D is paired up with Ruby. She is cute and I hope there is a scene with her. Tyra getting paired with a chatterbox is poetic justice. Also, if the sleazy judge gets busted and she goes down with him, I would really like that.

What was ok:
- Cassandra. Cassandra has been teased for a while so it is good that she finally makes a move, even if it was a small move.
- Elena. It was nice for her to get more than a quickie with the MC but she felt like an afterthought. Maybe if Elena and MC went out for a date first it would have been better.
- Margo/Olivia. I bundled them together as they both give D some really good but different life advice. I am a bit upset their Day 40 content wasn't there but I knew that going into this update.
- The sex shop. D is getting much more comfortable talking about sex and new experiences, but it felt like set up for future Martin content.

What I didn't like:
- Jennifer. She still feels like an afterthought even more than Elena. I don't mind she didn't have sex yet but she just shows up out of nowhere.
- The well discussed glitch where the MC and D discuss meeting Margo and Ryan even if it didn't happen. It will obviously be patched out, or the mod will simply allow them to go to that encounter even if you didn't meet Margo.
- The easy grammar mistakes. I'm not a grammar nazi but there were some mistakes that should have been noticed simply by rereading the dialogue. We all make mistakes, which is why you should reread or ask another person to read your work before submitting.
- Day 39 felt short. We get a scene in the morning, then mid morning then the evening. Couldn't D have contacted Elena for advice about Rachel. She talks to Margo/Olivia about it but only if you don't get the Martin content. It seems weird she never contacted her best friend when a massive roadblock is placed in her path. It would have given Elena and maybe even Jennifer more to do in this update.

 

[px305]

I get it this game is hard choices based and involving other characters (martin, etc) could change the direction of the story I respect some of you don't like some type of fetishes and don't want the game going in that direction.

I see a lot of people defending they want a exclusive relantionship only with F and D and both of them exploring their sexuality, pretty normal and understandable.

Said that please someone explain to me why is that the F has been fucking EVERYTHING that moves in the game sometimes with D involved in the scene and no one complains.

F-Gergiona - Ok
F-Jennifer - Ok
F-Elena - Ok
F-Olivia - Ok
(I probaly forgot some)

D-Martin - REEEEEEEEEEEEEE


Double standards? F can fuck everything but D cant? MrDots changed the direction of the game? On what direction cause F has been doing everything he wanted since update 1.

 

[Trikus]

I get it this game is hard choices based and involving other characters (martin, etc) could change the direction of the story I respect some of you don't like some type of fetishes and don't want the game going in that direction.

I see a lot of people defending they want a exclusive relantionship only with F and D and both of them exploring their sexuality, pretty normal and understandable.

Said that please someone explain to me why is that the F has been fucking EVERYTHING that moves in the game sometimes with D involved in the scene and no one complains.

F-Gergiona - Ok
F-Jennifer - Ok
F-Elena - Ok
F-Olivia - Ok
(I probaly forgot some)

D-Martin - REEEEEEEEEEEEEE


Double standards? F can fuck everything but D cant? MrDots changed the direction of the game? On what direction cause F has been doing everything he wanted since update 1.

100% agree. There is no harem tag on this game. D can do whatever she wants.

 

[Skode]

DA22
if you stopped after chapter 1, why u still here? games that I dont like I usually do that "last" comment and I leave.

anyway, my reaction is not only to react against all those that complains because theres something optional that they dont like.
it is also to tell them that I actually enjoy diversity, that I want those "optional" paths to be available and Im quite tired of all the dudes that tries to have it removed with the negativity around it.
I know for a fact devs that removed some paths because of that, they got "scared" of all the negativity and decided to do the safest thing, delete it. but those decisions made me leave that game, I lost a game that I was interested in because of all the bitching around it.

a game should be about choices, and the dev should be allowed to try different things, without all the bitching around and trying to "manipulate" and "push" the dev to change, just because they dont like it, even if its optional.
because its not only that those ego dudes are trying to tell they dont like something, they also telling people that enjoy it should not have it, they should be without it. that for me its infuriating because I very seldom complain when theres too much vanilla or fetishes that I dont like, because I believe in diversity and that Im not the only one playing.

To be fair its less anyone telling people they cant have things and more of a case here its they want stuff added four years into a game not removed. Its a very different scenario and goes in the face mostly of what the narrative presented for years - its turning things into a hot mess and he needs to back track and approach this much much better before its too late. There are ways to do this and I guess the three most obvious ones to mind are...

1) go back and rewrite the old chapters to better suit a long term narrative for the father to be into idea of his daughter being with other guys and her into the idea too vs just shoe horning this all non-organically years into development to try and simp to niche kink funders (nothing wrong with niche kinks, im preggo lover myself but aint demanding it outta nowhere just because its my thing on games like this randomly). Ideally the rewrite would present a path where F does NOT seduce daughter and they both go with whatever LI the player prefers for both from the side characters.

2) do a Melody as he has done before in adding all these more fan service but not narrative fitting content as Extras for all to enjoy that want them without trying to shoe horn into story again so late game into development as its pissing everyone off as im not seeing either side happy here. You want Martin BBC with D? Sure its in the extras as a what if, as is D with Mother, D in a gang bang or what ever else you desire.

3) Just end the game after chapter 3 and make the story continue from the ending point as a fresh start with paths planned from start for all the paths with proper planning and focus so everyone has clarity as to whats actually coming and where vs guess work and arguments vs this mess where Jen fans are finding out theyre MISSING content with her despite ticking her box because other boxes content all of a sudden are a priority. That's a god awful way of doing things and again creates resentment as all these other paths like Martin come to the fore pushing them even further down the pecking order despite in say Jens case her being presented by game itself as a much more prominent and bigger deal for far longer yet apparently is no longer the case.

 

[ShadowThrone]

I know, feelings don't necessarily belong to swinging but the main drive of Dee towards Ryan is based on the fact that she "likes him", not that she wants to fuck him. And when you like someone, well.. you kiss and cuddle a little first . BJ and swallow comes after that lol.

This is the reason that I would have preferred Graham / Olivia for swinging / swapping.
D has feelings for Ryan. Feelings and kissing can be a real danger when involved in swinging, especially if a person has only ever had one sexual partner. To me, kissing and hugging after sex is for a loving relationship.
I think that D is not mature enough to handle just causal sex with Ryan, and I think that F could have done a better job with the conversation afterwards.

 

[Jurandirr]

F can fuck everything but D cant?

i mean yeah? isn't hard to think why one is "ok" for majority, and the other isn't and why harem routes are more popular, since the MC is male...

And honestly, reading a feel pages, im not seeing anyone complaining about that being a choice, seems like there is some people complaining that should be unavoidable, of course maybe its just an impression and im wrong though.

 

[eredar321]

Just teasing with Jennifer? when will we have a full sex scene, or maybe a path only

 

[ShadowThrone]

- Georgina. She is my favourite side girl, and this updates shows why. The cat fight was hilarious. She is genuinely invested in not only F but D as well. Their three-way relationship seems like it will genuinely work, even more so than Elena. I loved their discussion about one on one encounters and not just with Georgina and MC but Georgina and D. Georgina seems to round out the family dynamic that D has missed out on perfectly.

Georgina is also my favorite side girl, and I think that a F / D / G poly relationship seems like the best end game goal (unless going D only), but not sure what she will do when she discovers F and D's swinging lifestyle.
As there is no harem tag, I assume we will need to eventually decided on who we end up with.

 

[mizilic]

This is the reason that I would have preferred Graham / Olivia for swinging / swapping.
D has feelings for Ryan. Feelings and kissing can be a real danger when involved in swinging, especially if a person has only ever had one sexual partner. To me, kissing and hugging after sex is for a loving relationship.
I think that D is not mature enough to handle just causal sex with Ryan, and I think that F could have done a better job with the conversation afterwards.

Yes, I would have also preferred Graham/Olivia first because that relationship is already well developed and there was no reason to not bring it to a full swap or at least a soft swap in this update. But, well.. Mr Dots didn't manage to do that scene in time.. What can we do? We go for Margo/Ryan..

Of course feelings are dangerous in such combinations, which is why swingers usually avoid having feelings for the other sex partners. It is basically just sex, just "for fun". At least theoretically. But in fact I am more for a "polyamory" relationship with other couples, a "combination" between swinging ad polyamory. That involves and accepts feelings. But i agree it is really difficult to handle such things, even for older and more experienced couples. There is much risk within such relationships indeed.

But .. on the other hand, does a visual novel not always need some "challenge", some "conflicts", some "drama"? And would it not be better to have those placed in this field of "sex and feelings" instead of being brought by some characters outside the main topic of the game, or a perv with binoculars or even a nasty mother or a nasty competitor in a contest?

And on another .. other hand.. I don't know about you but when I fuck a woman that I like, I do have at least "some" feelings for her at least for the duration of the act, most of the times even after. That can really not be avoided, unless you lie yourself. and your partner and say no, it was only fun.. So yes, swingers usually try to avoid feelings but i would not bet that they succeed all the time

That's the reason why i'm more for polyamory coz, although it is very difficult to deal with it, in that case the feelings are agreed upon and nobody has to lie.. I agree that Dee may be too young to deal with that successfully, but she can't avoid feelings anyway, so better accept them and try to deal with them. The sooner, the better. Because sooner or later they will become part of those "funny things" anyway..

After all what F told Dee from the beginning of this "corrupted"path was that it's "normal" to have feelings also for other men that she may like.. He didn't say its normal to fuck around the block but don't you dare to have feelings when doing that..

 

[SomeOldFart]

I'm pretty bummed that there is no animation in the Elena doggy position.

 

[Juby89]

In fact as Martin came and decided to stay for the week, then went out to meet Georgina i thought.. hmmmm.. Martin&Georgina, that would be something After all they worked together for a long time as Martin was fucking the boss in the toilet and most probably a lot of other women, while Georgina was a free and single "occasional model" not yet in love with MC.. Did they really not "interract" somehow in those times? And if yes, what about one more "session" Interesting possibility. But I must agree the MC+Dee+Georgina polyamory relationship is the better choice here, it's really nice, necessary and has future..

But well.. if Dee starts fuckin' around in Ch4, why should Georgina not do the same? And if Martin is around.. lol. Or would that disturb you as a big Martin fan?

No I would love to see Martin get it on with pretty much anyone but I agree Georgina would be the most realistic choice of partner for him given their history. I hope we at least eventually get Melody style "fantasy scenes" that explore a bit of that if its too hard to actually fit into the game.

 

[EZ8lt]

Why you continue to self inflict the same pain again and again?
If you don't like the game don't be a martyr and don't play it.

That was my literally first post in the thread, and I am free to voice my opinion about the game, but thanks for looking out for me and for the unneeded advice.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

I've played two paths since forever, one with Jennifer involved for sure - but she didn't show up for me in this update...

Another thing: what happened to the puppy idea..?

 

[Deleted member 584847]

a bit disappointed by the new update tho its still a game in my top 3 well written but only few choices that even dont appears to matter.
but i guess the game is nearing the end, right?

 

[RottenPlum]

To see that scene with Margo and Ryan you don't need a save, just go back to the scene before D goes to the park , click on her head (top-right of screen) and set there the MMF route with Martin to NO. Then play the game from there and when you have to chose between Olivia and Margo in the park (if you have the 3some routes with both of them on yes), chose Margo. That's what i did and what I always do whenever i see in the WT that i may lose a scene that I want to see if something there is set to yes or to no.

Fortunately those settings can be changed any time.. probably also whenever the time will come for D to finally get a BBC in her pussy (if we are still alive). We will just have to set there the MMF with Martin to yes again. Or we can always wait for Lain's mod to be updated to the last version..

It's indeed a big shit that we have to chose there either 1 or the other instead of having both (and even between Margo and Olivia we must chose). But since it seems a swinger scene with Graham/Olivia won't come till the end of the year, if at all, and any kind of sex scene with Martin will only come in some .. 5 or 50 years from now, if at all, the only thing the pervs of us can do is chose to see that scene with Margo and Ryan for the moment and get this way just another man's hand on D's naked boobs.. What a great progress on the corrupted D route lol! But, OK, better than nothing.. At least the discussions before and after that scene do set some future trends and clarify some things..

From what I can see, it appears that MrDots got scared by the many players who threaten to leave if the game doesn't remain vanilla and has probably decided to go on that way till the end of Ch3, plus setting up some mini-harem & polyamory routes with Dee + other girls (which indeed are necessary and nice). As for sharing Dee with other men, I can only hope that at least in Ch4 us pervs can finally see her going ballistic and fucking every man that's not hiding in a tree till you count to 3. In this chapter that just won't happen! She just goes on acting BI-sexual, which gives MC even more girls to fuck..

Yea, i totally forgot about setting relation options in game, thanks for reminding me. As for D, like in any other game i find vanilla boring, and in this one they already fucked in every position and hole possible. It's time for true slutification of D and get that DPs and gang bangs rolling, But we won't see any of that until chapter 4.

 

[Reikoku]

Fileupload takes 3 days to download, Nopy 12 hours, MEGA stops at 42%, Uploadheaven won't even start.....can't we have a torrent with proper seeds?

 

[mizilic]

No I would love to see Martin get it on with pretty much anyone but I agree Georgina would be the most realistic choice of partner for him given their history. I hope we at least eventually get Melody style "fantasy scenes" that explore a bit of that if its too hard to actually fit into the game.

Another quite realistic, when also unexpected choice would be... Rachel Since she is now in a lesbian relation with Martin's ex boss-woman, i can see potential there lol. And then we can let Georgina be where she is now coz she is very good placed there

 

[slackster]

A bit of perspective on those who think progression is slow.
D has had 5 3somes with 4 different girls in the space of a week, which indicates there is obviously something influencing in why there is a reluctance for the dev team to consummate the sharing path with another male.
If it is a division between MrDots vision and the writing team MrDots should stick with his original vision for the game and get writers who will follow his direction

 

[Pitrik]

a bit disappointed by the new update tho its still a game in my top 3 well written but only few choices that even dont appears to matter.
but i guess the game is nearing the end, right?

Will end in 2021

 

[DA22]

Skode
this is your perspective, but most of the time, people are just nagging that they "can't" stand theres an optional path with some content. they act as they get forced into submission to watch it over and over again until they brake.

what you say is exactly the problem, the dev has changes a few times to "please" the babies that complains, doing so ruined the continuity of those "optional" paths. I also feel its odd when D is now open for something when F has been a possessive bastard that would kill anyone that would approach D, and now, it seems he changed, without any discussions with her, like its something natural that would grow with just a "small" push, like "letting" someone compliment D, that is enough to open a sharing path, but reality is that its a lot of talking behind those choices, that I can't find and that I would enjoy reading. so, its weak and right now what is happening with D+M is more a cheating story instead of exploring her sexuality. it is more "NTR" than a "sharing" path, if you ask me, and its really not something I wanted.

Partly the problem is what you say, another part of the problem though is how slow the development of F-D to sex was, based upon remarks of others I think it was update 23 or 27? Way after chapter 1 ended though.

With that the dev team also set D's character and F-D relation, now if they had been doing anal on a stage in a nightclub by update 5 the setting of the game would be completely different and a wild swinging slutty D would make way more sense, but after the slow burn and stairway to heaven progression it fits way less. Also it does not really fit the theme of the story and her relation with F unless you would have a path where F leaves D since now a grown woman sensually and then sluts it up.

Edit: Though a careful worked romantic sharing path could be worked out if devs want it, though some will still hate it anyway.