VN Ren'Py Completed Dating My Daughter [Ch. 1-4 v1.01] [MrDots Games]

[ltpika]

Anybody else think this Melody thing sounds like starting over? It also sounds like the same thing all over again, they should really try to do something different. It's too easy to write another game where you slowly pull an uptight virgin's legs open. There's the danger they'll get bored and never finish, like 99.9% of Patreon games.

 

[Oled]

Is there a android version for dmd 0.17 ???

 

[f95zone]

They've gone from "finished no matter what" to "when the opportunity comes available" in about two weeks. I really hope I'm wrong, but this doesn't look good.

There goes my last hope of this ever being finished. A patreon alternative won't magically materialize out of thin air, and before it does patreon will probably make their rules more and more strict by the month with devs having their hands full to comply with the latest ruleset. Well it was fun while it lasted.

 

[wrx21]

There goes my last hope of this ever being finished. A patreon alternative won't magically materialize out of thin air, and before it does patreon will probably make their rules more and more strict by the month with devs having their hands full to comply with the latest ruleset. Well it was fun while it lasted.

my thoughts exactly,i know it sucks for them but they are relying on perfect patreon alternative too much,that just won't happen,i doubt anyone in the world has the idea of making such membership site that would openly support and allow incest games just like that.Every other similair site recommended by fans have been discarded by both mrdots and hearsz
The only option remains is to simultaneously develop both games,which would take a tremendeous effort and lots of time,but from what hearsz been saying with the last few comments on their official site,it seems that won't be the case,dmd is currently on life support that is about to be unplugged

 

[MonoliteralSex]

"DMD v17 will be released on February 14th, and after that, production on the game will cease until we are able to find a platform that we can move the game to (which could take several weeks or even months). The system has to be as reliable as Patreon’s and not have an issue with incest-related content.
That’s seemingly a huge ask at the present time, but we are hopeful one will become available in the near future"

The team itself seems to be split on this, i've basically read 3 members say 3 completely different things regarding the future of DMD... i don't have any hope left though

 

[rciik]

I am an optimist and as much as I want to believe in the good of people; this is all about business! The future of DMD is in the hands of Melody. If that games fails, then we are SOL. Frankly, there are two problems: Patreon (as a service) and us, the people that pay.

MrDots has a known reputation and Patreon can be (again) very anal about it. What happens if they decide that in 6 months, that Melody is crossing some unwritten rule and it gets banned again? Personally; I don't give a fuck about Melody. I pay for DMD and Melody is just a bonus. If it doesn't deliver, then people will unsubscribe and the project will die.

In all honesty.. and I know people will get sensitive about it - but tomorrow I will be saying good bye to my daughter!! There is no chance in hell we're going to see this finished. I really hope I am wrong, because it will make her return that much more epic! Be realistic guys..

 

[JRD]

The patron numbers for MrDots doesn't tell the whole story as the team hasn't published how much they actually take per month. I might be very wrong but it feels like there were a lot of $20 patrons due to extra content and the walk-through. Not sure how many will maintain that same level of support for Melody. I'm having a hard time justifying supporting Melody at the same level if DmD is going to be shelved.

Agreed with what others have said about mixed messages from the dev team. While this might be intentional in order to keep Patreon admins guessing it's quite frustrating for patrons/clients who are invested in DmD.

 

[JRD]

Anybody else think this Melody thing sounds like starting over? It also sounds like the same thing all over again, they should really try to do something different. It's too easy to write another game where you slowly pull an uptight virgin's legs open. There's the danger they'll get bored and never finish, like 99.9% of Patreon games.

Starting over with a bland and highly limited plot, all of which is under Patreon's microscope - the fact that the team had to submit the project to Patreon for approval prior to posting anything on their page bodes ill.

 

[rciik]

I disagree about Melody. If Melody fails, DMD has a chance ; if Melody is even a so-so success, then we are SOL.

I disagree - reason: DMD gets funded by having Melody on Patreon. If Melody fails and people leave (or the project gets banned) then there are no more funds for DMD. How do you expect to get more DMD if there are no funds?

If Melody turns out to be fucking awesome then he has to get more people that do the work. He could manage it and have a team doing DMD and a team doing Melody. I think he is capable of doing it. He seems smart but inexperienced (looking at his track record).

 

[armion82]

Your quoted statement (by Hearsz) is the one I believe.
Due to the fact that at least one scene (or more) originally intended for 0.18 has been added to 0.17. This would have NEVER happened if there was a good chance for a 0.18 in the near future.
This all seems to be a sad charade to at least prevent Patreon patrons to NOT unpledge. This is certainly the short-term goal. There does not appear to be any long-term goals in place. Everything is "it depends..."

I have the feeling that the content from 0.18 that has been added to 0.17 means we will get bigger updates for DmD/+30-50%/ but we wait at least 100 days between them.
BTW I will tell you guys when 0.17 come if we can use 0.14 and 0.15/0.16 or we must replace them with 14.5 and 16.5

 

[aloy4]

means we will get bigger updates

Always expect the worst. Especially when it comes to indie game developers

 

[armion82]

Always expect the worst. Especially when it comes to indie game developers

Actualy I expect the worst when it comes to biggest developers.And last years they proved I'm not wrong.

 

[Jeff Steel]

You take one of my favorite movies of all time - one of about 30 I actually own the disc for, The Fall - that was a film of passion that took 4 years to make due to funding issues and whatnot.

If - as I posit - DMD is also a work of passion for MDots, and the same devotion for DMD exists with him as it did for The Fall, then DMD will be completed slowly over time.

Can I guarantee that? No. But the same holds true that nobody can guarantee it won’t happen. BTW, I make nothing from DMD or from Melody, so I guess I hold the moral authority when I say that for some of us, the money made from either DMD or Melody has no bearing on the enthusiasm for some of us to complete either project.

As many would agree with me, the daughter character in DMD has created a preternatural hold on me that I am more than willing, indeed enthused, to spend somewhere between 10-20 hours a week in research, ideas, and writing for both projects. (Highly dependent on jury trial schedules).

BTW, one great benefit on DMD slowing up is that the scripts will get better in that a script written that then would have to go to art and cg stage now rests and will rest dormant for least an extra month or more, inviting two or more revisits and rewrites. (A silver lining)

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Here is a blurb on The Fall:

Tarsem Singh’s 2006 film, ‘The Fall’ was clearly a passion project that took over 4 years to complete. The visually appealing film has also been ranked among the most beautiful films of all time. The film was shot in exotic locations over 20 countries and was produced mainly by the director. Financial crunches led to delayed shoots that were already difficult enough. Just imagine shooting a chase sequence at the Taj Mahal. The film was a commercial failure but was recognized for its aesthetics later.

 

[armion82]

You take one of my favorite movies of all time - one of about 30 I actually own the disc for, The Fall - that was a film of passion that took 4 years to make due to funding issues and whatnot.

If - as I posit - DMD is also a work of passion for MDots, and the same devotion for DMD exists with him as it did for The Fall, then DMD will be completed slowly over time.

Can I guarantee that? No. But the same holds true that nobody can guarantee it won’t happen. BTW, I make nothing from DMD or from Melody, so I guess I hold the moral authority when I say that for some of us, the money made from either DMD or Melody has no bearing on the enthusiasm for some of us to complete either project.

As many would agree with me, the daughter character in DMD has created a preternatural hold on me that I am more than willing, indeed enthused, to spend somewhere between 10-20 hours a week in research, ideas, and writing for both projects. (Highly dependent on jury trial schedules).

BTW, one great benefit on DMD slowing up is that the scripts will get better in that a script written that then would have to go to art and cg stage now rests and will rest dormant for least an extra month or more, inviting two or more revisits and rewrites. (A silver lining)

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Here is a blurb on The Fall:

Tarsem Singh’s 2006 film, ‘The Fall’ was clearly a passion project that took over 4 years to complete. The visually appealing film has also been ranked among the most beautiful films of all time. The film was shot in exotic locations over 20 countries and was produced mainly by the director. Financial crunches led to delayed shoots that were already difficult enough. Just imagine shooting a chase sequence at the Taj Mahal. The film was a commercial failure but was recognized for its aesthetics later.

Hehe I remember how I wait for some game-books to come.Par example Way of the Tiger series.The book 1-6 come 1985-1987.Book 7 come 2014.Or Lone Wolf by Joe Dever series.Book 29 was released 18 years after book 28.And sadly same year the author past away.

 

[MonoliteralSex]

If - as I posit - DMD is also a work of passion for MDots, and the same devotion for DMD exists with him as it did for The Fall, then DMD will be completed slowly over time.

That's what i thought the situation was according to the blog posts by MrDots but the comments made by HearszAm don't leave a lot of hope and really make me question whether i should keep giving money on patreon moving forward considering i don't really care about Melody... maybe i'll be proven wrong and it will be amazing, i just don't think visual novels make a lot of sense for vanilla stuff like that, there are a lot of mediums for porn that are more suitable for legal/bland stuff like that.
I don't doubt for a second that you are all moved by passion, i think it really shows in the final product, but passion and devotion without money leads nowhere

 

[Jeff Steel]

Surely, there should be excess funds from DMD. If there aren't, the studio fully deserves to fail.
It is DMD that is funding Melody, not the other way around.
Melody is doomed. That extra Patreon ingredient will surely spoil the broth. There will be no hiding that fact...

Don’t disagree with the funding issue. Even before I was helping, it has been my opinion that funding or desire to spend funding has not been the “narrowing of the funnel” at issue. I believe the narrowing is MDots and his being the artist with control over all the scenes.

Look how good DMD started out with an arguably week script. It was due, IMO, to MDots art selection, facial expression selection over a scene, etc. MDots, imo, then has gotten better as DMD progressed. Soon the shot selection and shot sequencing, lighting choices, etc became markedly striking. (Face it, the scripting in DMD compared to other writing is okay to good - but if you had a choice between a consistently great script minus the MDots art and style vice a junk script with the MDots art - I believe the overwhelming verdict would be for MDots input).

So yes, there is a funnel issue - and it is imo at the area most critical to the success of both DMD and Melody. Could MDots find help at his caliber (or at a level that would not detract from his work)? Of course. Would it be easy for him to do that? I don’t know. Will he ever do that? I don’t know. All I know is there is a reason I started following and pledging, and it was his work and the weird voodoo he does in creating (at least in Daughter) these almost motion picture quality scenes with one or more female characters who squirrel away small fragments of awe in your heart.

For that I accept the narrowing of the funnel and then try to work with that restriction to the betterment of both VNs.

(Oh, and for the record, there are several scenes and parts of scenes where I thought they were really excellent - the most recent scene, and people have already disagreed with me, is the MC/Jennifer home date/sex scene. I believe Hearz wrote that one. It, for me flowed, consistently believable, humorous appropriate bits, and sexual tension in one sequence that worked in the totality.)

 

[Jeff Steel]

We all hope for the best, Jeff. Situation sucks for all of us...

btw, to make a dedicated Melody thread would need a demo link (plus uploader status). So, until that happens Melody can find a home here on this thread...

So it looks like an official Melody thread can open on the first release? (Of course, would require a dedicated pirate of the Jolly Roger variety to coordinate that — and that is not me as I am a loyal Captain of the MDots Royal Navy).

Or maybe I in the ground forces:

I am the very model of a modern Major-General,
I've information vegetable, animal, and mineral,
I know the kings of England, and I quote the fights historical
From Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical;
I'm very well acquainted, too, with matters mathematical,
I understand equations, both the simple and quadratical,
About binomial theorem I'm teeming with a lot o' news,
With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse.

 

[Jeff Steel]

That's what i thought the situation was according to the blog posts by MrDots but the comments made by HearszAm don't leave a lot of hope and really make me question whether i should keep giving money on patreon moving forward considering i don't really care about Melody... maybe i'll be proven wrong and it will be amazing, i just don't think visual novels make a lot of sense for vanilla stuff like that, there are a lot of mediums for porn that are more suitable for legal/bland stuff like that.
I don't doubt for a second that you are all moved by passion, i think it really shows in the final product, but passion and devotion without money leads nowhere

Don’t disagree with your POV. You will have I believe three-four groups:

Patron 1 - Loved DMD - love Melody - support them both
Patron 2 - Loved DMD - like/love/whatever Melody - support MDots and will re-evaluate depending on the moves on DMD by the time we get to (say) summer
Patron 3 - Loved DMD - don’t like what I see of Melody (or once see Melody, don’t like it) - when DMD comes back with a direct funding method, I will reconsider
Patron 4 - Loved DMD - but, because the risk of having my heart torn out is too much I’m backing off with funds... and when Chapter 2 is complete (or when the the whole game is complete) I will come back with praise and acclaim it a mission with success only second to the Jun 1948-Sep 1949 Berlin Airlift.

 

[Lndlordd]

Theres a poll on Mr.Dots patreon page for choosing Melodys neighbour.....can some one post that here....btw tats y we already need a thread for the new game....it wont be on topic if its posted here!!!

 

[Madeddy]

v 16.5 Savegame transfer is still not working for me with linux or linux+wine. :disappointed: Unimpressive...