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Actualy I expect the worst when it comes to biggest developers.And last years they proved I'm not wrong.
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You take one of my favorite movies of all time - one of about 30 I actually own the disc for, The Fall - that was a film of passion that took 4 years to make due to funding issues and whatnot.
If - as I posit - DMD is also a work of passion for MDots, and the same devotion for DMD exists with him as it did for The Fall, then DMD will be completed slowly over time.
Can I guarantee that? No. But the same holds true that nobody can guarantee it won’t happen. BTW, I make nothing from DMD or from Melody, so I guess I hold the moral authority when I say that for some of us, the money made from either DMD or Melody has no bearing on the enthusiasm for some of us to complete either project.
As many would agree with me, the daughter character in DMD has created a preternatural hold on me that I am more than willing, indeed enthused, to spend somewhere between 10-20 hours a week in research, ideas, and writing for both projects. (Highly dependent on jury trial schedules).
BTW, one great benefit on DMD slowing up is that the scripts will get better in that a script written that then would have to go to art and cg stage now rests and will rest dormant for least an extra month or more, inviting two or more revisits and rewrites. (A silver lining)
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Here is a blurb on The Fall:
Tarsem Singh’s 2006 film, ‘The Fall’ was clearly a passion project that took over 4 years to complete. The visually appealing film has also been ranked among the most beautiful films of all time. The film was shot in exotic locations over 20 countries and was produced mainly by the director. Financial crunches led to delayed shoots that were already difficult enough. Just imagine shooting a chase sequence at the Taj Mahal. The film was a commercial failure but was recognized for its aesthetics later.
If - as I posit - DMD is also a work of passion for MDots, and the same devotion for DMD exists with him as it did for The Fall, then DMD will be completed slowly over time.
Can I guarantee that? No. But the same holds true that nobody can guarantee it won’t happen. BTW, I make nothing from DMD or from Melody, so I guess I hold the moral authority when I say that for some of us, the money made from either DMD or Melody has no bearing on the enthusiasm for some of us to complete either project.
As many would agree with me, the daughter character in DMD has created a preternatural hold on me that I am more than willing, indeed enthused, to spend somewhere between 10-20 hours a week in research, ideas, and writing for both projects. (Highly dependent on jury trial schedules).
BTW, one great benefit on DMD slowing up is that the scripts will get better in that a script written that then would have to go to art and cg stage now rests and will rest dormant for least an extra month or more, inviting two or more revisits and rewrites. (A silver lining)
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Here is a blurb on The Fall:
Tarsem Singh’s 2006 film, ‘The Fall’ was clearly a passion project that took over 4 years to complete. The visually appealing film has also been ranked among the most beautiful films of all time. The film was shot in exotic locations over 20 countries and was produced mainly by the director. Financial crunches led to delayed shoots that were already difficult enough. Just imagine shooting a chase sequence at the Taj Mahal. The film was a commercial failure but was recognized for its aesthetics later.
- Mar 28, 2017
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Hehe I remember how I wait for some game-books to come.Par example Way of the Tiger series.The book 1-6 come 1985-1987.Book 7 come 2014.Or Lone Wolf by Joe Dever series.Book 29 was released 18 years after book 28.And sadly same year the author past away.
That's what i thought the situation was according to the blog posts by MrDots but the comments made by HearszAm don't leave a lot of hope and really make me question whether i should keep giving money on patreon moving forward considering i don't really care about Melody... maybe i'll be proven wrong and it will be amazing, i just don't think visual novels make a lot of sense for vanilla stuff like that, there are a lot of mediums for porn that are more suitable for legal/bland stuff like that.
I don't doubt for a second that you are all moved by passion, i think it really shows in the final product, but passion and devotion without money leads nowhere
- Jun 2, 2017
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Don’t disagree with the funding issue. Even before I was helping, it has been my opinion that funding or desire to spend funding has not been the “narrowing of the funnel” at issue. I believe the narrowing is MDots and his being the artist with control over all the scenes.
Look how good DMD started out with an arguably week script. It was due, IMO, to MDots art selection, facial expression selection over a scene, etc. MDots, imo, then has gotten better as DMD progressed. Soon the shot selection and shot sequencing, lighting choices, etc became markedly striking. (Face it, the scripting in DMD compared to other writing is okay to good - but if you had a choice between a consistently great script minus the MDots art and style vice a junk script with the MDots art - I believe the overwhelming verdict would be for MDots input).
So yes, there is a funnel issue - and it is imo at the area most critical to the success of both DMD and Melody. Could MDots find help at his caliber (or at a level that would not detract from his work)? Of course. Would it be easy for him to do that? I don’t know. Will he ever do that? I don’t know. All I know is there is a reason I started following and pledging, and it was his work and the weird voodoo he does in creating (at least in Daughter) these almost motion picture quality scenes with one or more female characters who squirrel away small fragments of awe in your heart.
For that I accept the narrowing of the funnel and then try to work with that restriction to the betterment of both VNs.
(Oh, and for the record, there are several scenes and parts of scenes where I thought they were really excellent - the most recent scene, and people have already disagreed with me, is the MC/Jennifer home date/sex scene. I believe Hearz wrote that one. It, for me flowed, consistently believable, humorous appropriate bits, and sexual tension in one sequence that worked in the totality.)
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So it looks like an official Melody thread can open on the first release? (Of course, would require a dedicated pirate of the Jolly Roger variety to coordinate that — and that is not me as I am a loyal Captain of the MDots Royal Navy).
Or maybe I in the ground forces:
I am the very model of a modern Major-General,
I've information vegetable, animal, and mineral,
I know the kings of England, and I quote the fights historical
From Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical;
I'm very well acquainted, too, with matters mathematical,
I understand equations, both the simple and quadratical,
About binomial theorem I'm teeming with a lot o' news,
With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse.
- Jun 2, 2017
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Don’t disagree with your POV. You will have I believe three-four groups:
Patron 1 - Loved DMD - love Melody - support them both
Patron 2 - Loved DMD - like/love/whatever Melody - support MDots and will re-evaluate depending on the moves on DMD by the time we get to (say) summer
Patron 3 - Loved DMD - don’t like what I see of Melody (or once see Melody, don’t like it) - when DMD comes back with a direct funding method, I will reconsider
Patron 4 - Loved DMD - but, because the risk of having my heart torn out is too much I’m backing off with funds... and when Chapter 2 is complete (or when the the whole game is complete) I will come back with praise and acclaim it a mission with success only second to the Jun 1948-Sep 1949 Berlin Airlift.
Theres a poll on Mr.Dots patreon page for choosing Melodys neighbour.....can some one post that here....btw tats y we already need a thread for the new game....it wont be on topic if its posted here!!!
- Jan 2, 2018
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if that happens they should make the Jennifer content where you actually go slowly.. i mean really.. you go slowly with just the tip then just ram the monster in there, no wonder it got no where.. got to slowly ease in..
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I have hopes we will see once more this year Jennifer.
I wonder if Melody have friends like D in DmD.Maybe we will meat her breast friend/thank you Harumin/
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Being an incurable optimist, i can find two reasons why MrDots is not going to drop soon or even keep DmD on hold for a longer period of time:
1st: "D" itself
Someone beeing able to write/develop such a warmhearted novel - triggering a hughe range of strong positive emotions with it (happiness, hope, bliss, love, ...) leads me to the thought "D and the whole DmD project is for sure nothing less than kind of MrDots baby" He simply can't and never will let his "baby" get harmed.
2nd: statements on his website and on patreon
Even if english isn't my native language, i can clearly read between his lines that he is NOT in the right position to give Patreon even an atom of an indication which makes them think "MrDots is collecting funds through Melody and he is going to take these funds to develop DmD (beside Melody)" - neither on Patreon, on his or on DmD site.
That said, every "D"-enthusiast (in terms of DmD) would love to read such a statement from MrDots, getting a positive sign that it keeps running and gets further developed - slowed down a bit for the worst case.
He stated himself, that he, beeing kind of "patreon enemy number one", is simply not allowed to point to DmD anywhere at the moment without risk of losing the last buttress "Melody". Even the dumbest patreon employee is able to find his website and would be more than happy to find a DmD<->Melody context statement from MrDots...
My conclusion (assumingly)
If he does kind of splitted fundraisung through Melody atm, noone of patreon is able to check how many of his ressources are used to further develop DmD or Melody. Neither he or any of his team members is able to tell us about. MrDots does love DmD more than we can imagine. Just think about how much he made us love our "D".
1st: "D" itself
Someone beeing able to write/develop such a warmhearted novel - triggering a hughe range of strong positive emotions with it (happiness, hope, bliss, love, ...) leads me to the thought "D and the whole DmD project is for sure nothing less than kind of MrDots baby" He simply can't and never will let his "baby" get harmed.
2nd: statements on his website and on patreon
Even if english isn't my native language, i can clearly read between his lines that he is NOT in the right position to give Patreon even an atom of an indication which makes them think "MrDots is collecting funds through Melody and he is going to take these funds to develop DmD (beside Melody)" - neither on Patreon, on his or on DmD site.
That said, every "D"-enthusiast (in terms of DmD) would love to read such a statement from MrDots, getting a positive sign that it keeps running and gets further developed - slowed down a bit for the worst case.
He stated himself, that he, beeing kind of "patreon enemy number one", is simply not allowed to point to DmD anywhere at the moment without risk of losing the last buttress "Melody". Even the dumbest patreon employee is able to find his website and would be more than happy to find a DmD<->Melody context statement from MrDots...
My conclusion (assumingly)
If he does kind of splitted fundraisung through Melody atm, noone of patreon is able to check how many of his ressources are used to further develop DmD or Melody. Neither he or any of his team members is able to tell us about. MrDots does love DmD more than we can imagine. Just think about how much he made us love our "D".
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0.16.5 for ch2 and 0.14 for ch1...did i miss a fixed final?
Yeah, but i got it in my head to have a "natural" game. Feels like cheating like this. *shrug*
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compatibility/fixes pretty much: .14.5 > .16.5 > .17 is the best course.. .14 > .16 > .17 will probably not work imo
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