- Mar 10, 2019
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i know man i saw his reply and left me speechless lol
Are there plans for some future release with all the chapters in a single game?
Every new chapter presented a new problem to load my saved game, so I ran out of patience and stopped playing, but I really liked a lot this game
Every new chapter presented a new problem to load my saved game, so I ran out of patience and stopped playing, but I really liked a lot this game
- Sep 26, 2017
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Well, some chapters ago @Palmer told me after my critic of how Amanda´s character was destroyed, that he knew what he was doing, was certain to be right and that I should wait for later chapters, because they would explain why their take on was correct since the authors know the storyline best.
Now it is several chapters later and my opinion that Amanda was character assassinated is even reconfirmed by the last chapters. I even go as far as calling it now extremly poor character handling, no matter that Palmer went for a TV series type of story.
And I deeply pity Palmer if the standard teenagers around him are such dramaking/queen as... ! Yes, there are teenagers like that, but they have their backgrounds why they became such subjects.
But in the case of Amanda pushing her into this mould no matter what, is character derailment, poor handling and simply done for drama reasons. Many other players and I myself already stated a bunch of reasons why true Amanda had not a single reason to believe her aunt even one word.
It got worse with how shallow, callous Amanda treated her Dad and friends, a total 180° turn in behaviour without any logical reasoning. And no, it is not enough to excuse it with naive teenage behaviour, even most teenagers do not become vindictive, abusive a... within the drop of a hat.
I am a HEA ending type with most stories because the world needs some sunshine every day, but in this case I would not hesitate to kick her out for her callous, abusive and untrusting behaviour. If her character at the beginning or in later development showed a change you could say ok, but the Amanda up to about ch11 is not naive, pursues her Dad, knows that he loves her, knows that he loved her Mom, was always there for her and more things in his favour. There is NO, absolutely no reason a girl like that would believe one word of the vile accusations of an unknown aunt openly stating she wants to ruin the MC.
Sorry, but that is drama for drama´s sake as is the reconciliation. It breaks immersion and ruins a lot of the story.
I am sorry for this harsh verdict, because the start of DFD was very promising and without this drama before all it would be a really good game.
As for the statement that only on F95 storyline critic came up: Is it possible that Palmer´s patreons are partly the same ones which back gumdrop´s Dual Family? Those are likewise backer you can tell that Earth is flat and the sun rises in the north without them raising a fuss.
Now it is several chapters later and my opinion that Amanda was character assassinated is even reconfirmed by the last chapters. I even go as far as calling it now extremly poor character handling, no matter that Palmer went for a TV series type of story.
And I deeply pity Palmer if the standard teenagers around him are such dramaking/queen as... ! Yes, there are teenagers like that, but they have their backgrounds why they became such subjects.
But in the case of Amanda pushing her into this mould no matter what, is character derailment, poor handling and simply done for drama reasons. Many other players and I myself already stated a bunch of reasons why true Amanda had not a single reason to believe her aunt even one word.
It got worse with how shallow, callous Amanda treated her Dad and friends, a total 180° turn in behaviour without any logical reasoning. And no, it is not enough to excuse it with naive teenage behaviour, even most teenagers do not become vindictive, abusive a... within the drop of a hat.
I am a HEA ending type with most stories because the world needs some sunshine every day, but in this case I would not hesitate to kick her out for her callous, abusive and untrusting behaviour. If her character at the beginning or in later development showed a change you could say ok, but the Amanda up to about ch11 is not naive, pursues her Dad, knows that he loves her, knows that he loved her Mom, was always there for her and more things in his favour. There is NO, absolutely no reason a girl like that would believe one word of the vile accusations of an unknown aunt openly stating she wants to ruin the MC.
Sorry, but that is drama for drama´s sake as is the reconciliation. It breaks immersion and ruins a lot of the story.
I am sorry for this harsh verdict, because the start of DFD was very promising and without this drama before all it would be a really good game.
As for the statement that only on F95 storyline critic came up: Is it possible that Palmer´s patreons are partly the same ones which back gumdrop´s Dual Family? Those are likewise backer you can tell that Earth is flat and the sun rises in the north without them raising a fuss.
- Oct 23, 2016
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Liked for just that last bit. That just made me lol.
And yeah, saying that the criticism was only voiced here and not on patreon, if true that just goes to show that there are people who blindly follow devs. Why should it be any different with this type of games as it is with triple A titles?
I do remember though that when people here started complaining about Amanda's change in behaviour, that several of Palmer's actual patrons posted here saying that the explanation wasn't working and that her character was destroyed in their eyes.
So there were at least a few patrons who felt that way.
In general I still like the game, but I don't like Amanda that much any more.
Back before the drama I was dead set on choosing her and saw all other girls just as a distraction, but now Lily is my number one.
- Sep 26, 2017
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- Sep 26, 2017
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That's why there are 3 endings with every girl in the game, so you can pick your favorite. Those endings will be further expanded upon this month with the epilogues, starting with Kathy
Not meaning to be disrespectful here, but a long visual novel takes a long time to properly finish. So I'll just ask this thing ahead of time...
I read some time ago, that its revealed the daugther isn't actually the MC's daugther, instead some randos guy and the mother basically is some lying crackwhore or whatever. Any of that true? Bio daugther especially?
I played the earlier free versions before anything happened with the daugther only.
I read some time ago, that its revealed the daugther isn't actually the MC's daugther, instead some randos guy and the mother basically is some lying crackwhore or whatever. Any of that true? Bio daugther especially?
I played the earlier free versions before anything happened with the daugther only.
- Nov 22, 2018
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No. Its the MC's real daughter but Patreon TOS cracked down on incest so its his childhood buddy or some shit now.
- Feb 23, 2019
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I'm gonna be very dissapointed if there's no way to have a threesome with Kathy and Amanda in the near future.
I am dumb as a post IRL. I just have better vocabulary than intelligence (or so I'm told).
Why do I mention that? I really hate that, in a story, a character does something more stupid / unwise than I would. I mean, my friends even say during a show "If (my RL name) can figure this out... why can't they?". i.e. feels artificial 'drama for drama's' sake.
Amanda fits that story based description FOR ME, including later chapters. I know. Opinion varies.
Finally... this is a game. IRL, I can't take 20-40 arrows to the chest like I can in an RPG. Those are the games I like. I don't play survival / realistic anything.
As far as porn games are concerned, I'm more of a VN / Scene selector than a "realistic" porn game.
Not saying those are bad at all. Just not my preference.
I do appreciate the hard work, sure. But for a game called DFD... the resolution of the D part... wasn't satisfying FOR ME. Thanks again though.
Why do I mention that? I really hate that, in a story, a character does something more stupid / unwise than I would. I mean, my friends even say during a show "If (my RL name) can figure this out... why can't they?". i.e. feels artificial 'drama for drama's' sake.
Amanda fits that story based description FOR ME, including later chapters. I know. Opinion varies.
Finally... this is a game. IRL, I can't take 20-40 arrows to the chest like I can in an RPG. Those are the games I like. I don't play survival / realistic anything.
As far as porn games are concerned, I'm more of a VN / Scene selector than a "realistic" porn game.
Not saying those are bad at all. Just not my preference.
I do appreciate the hard work, sure. But for a game called DFD... the resolution of the D part... wasn't satisfying FOR ME. Thanks again though.
At least I understood your posts as such, but then again English is a secondary language for me. I understand very well that you defend your creation. I do that as well, but still, sometimes you write yourself in a corner. It can happen to all of us.
I will play the rest of the chapters, but the point is already made. There might be some really nice endings, but how we get there throws the wrench in. The story is ok, but as said, Amanda is OoC.
- Nov 14, 2017
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those who are asking saves: try these.
- Sep 26, 2017
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I'm not defending anything, I simply said that was not what I said
Feel free to like or dislike the game, it is free after all.
im impressed with youI'm not defending anything, I simply said that was not what I said
- Sep 21, 2017
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- Sep 26, 2017
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We literally released Ch17 for free yesterdayno more cracked? ...damn. guess I'll just replay being a dik again........
- Nov 23, 2017
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Cannot wait for the last 2 chapters, but I will ask, are you planning on releasing them for free over the next 2 months or are you going to release both in one go in a month? Also, for Double Homework, are you going to release the chapters for free a few months after their initial release?We literally released Ch17 for free yesterday
- Sep 26, 2017
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All of our games will be free. At the moment I cannot give you exact dates though, hope that is okay.