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[koleoptero]

What you say is only valid for Open GL and 3Delight.
But if you want to render in Iray, you have to use the GPU and cpu level anything will do the same for the ram. It is useless to have 64gb of ram if your graphics card has only 8 or 11gb. In Iray only gpu only the VRAM will be used(Basically if the scene is over VRAM daz will crash), so invest in the gpu and the rest will be done with what's left of the budget.

So a used 1080 TI will do very well for a small budget for a good start.

I agree there. I wasn't talking about Daz only there. It was more of a general research for me because i want to learn to use blender alongside Daz, or software with different render engines. And i am all for my hobby and passing of time. I don't do it to make a game or a novel or something. maybe sometime but that's not my main goal right now. This is laso the reason why i am struggling to even think of an idea or a cencept for my next scene. Cause i don't have a goal or something specific in mind. But my PC is really struggling and for a 2k complex scene it takes me hours and hours.. I know I have to do reasearch on the individual software that i want to use and build a PC that is good for all of them (in this case 2 mostly) so.. back to the drawing board for me..

 

[Larry Kubiac]

Shader options related to translucency and volume can make your rendering time catastrophic.
For example, take a regular cube with standard material, measure the rendering time, and now change the translucency in the shader and add volume. Oops!
In certain situations, an improperly configured shader can increase the rendering time by tens of times. This very often applies to hair shaders.

A used 1080TI costs about $700 and it no longer has full support for DS 4.12 / Iray 2020 RTX. Sorry, but your advice is to throw money away.

If I can render with the 1080 on beta 4.12.6 a 1080 TI should do it too, right?

At least the 1080 TI has 11GB ram like a 2080 RTX even if there is less cuda and RTX specs. Moreover if you are patient and if you are looking for a good one you will find it at 400/450 euros of the 1080 TI finally it is the case in France.

Below the 2080 RTX it's poop it's worth the price compared to a 1080 TI, and it will save you from buying a card 1 year later because you'll be tired of being limited in your scenes.

I agree there. I wasn't talking about Daz only there. It was more of a general research for me because i want to learn to use blender alongside Daz, or software with different render engines. And i am all for my hobby and passing of time. I don't do it to make a game or a novel or something. maybe sometime but that's not my main goal right now. This is laso the reason why i am struggling to even think of an idea or a cencept for my next scene. Cause i don't have a goal or something specific in mind. But my PC is really struggling and for a 2k complex scene it takes me hours and hours.. I know I have to do reasearch on the individual software that i want to use and build a PC that is good for all of them (in this case 2 mostly) so.. back to the drawing board for me..

Well you're on a thread on DAZ Studio so I'm just talking about DAZ.

 

[RelaxArt]

Below the 2080 RTX it's poop it's worth the price compared to a 1080 TI, and it will save you from buying a card 1 year later because you'll be tired of being limited in your scenes.

Until February of this year, I used a laptop with GF540M/1GB and this gave a good increase in the optimization skill in DS. I have little idea where others find problems with VRAM, if in 5 minutes you can always reduce the size of textures to normal and render an orgy with 5 characters in a reasonable amount of time

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[Larry Kubiac]

Until February of this year, I used a laptop with GF540M/1GB and this gave a good increase in the optimization skill in DS. I have little idea where others find problems with VRAM, if in 5 minutes you can always reduce the size of textures to normal and render an orgy with 5 characters in a reasonable amount of time

Look with a 1080 8gb (without donwsizing textures), imagine with 11gb

 

[iNaJke]

Some of my last works

 

[RelaxArt]

imagine with 11gb

6 characters in FullHD and hair for them, plus some clothes/environment textures? Hmm, let me see...
6-7GB VRAM. The rest, available for the 1080TI, 16GB are idle, right?
The RTX series has a big plus in that it allows you to twist such scenes in almost real time. This saves a lot of time in the viewport when setting the correct light. Hardware raytracing improves performance as if there were a couple additional thousand cuda-cores on the graphics card.

 

[Larry Kubiac]

6 characters in FullHD and hair for them, plus some clothes/environment textures? Hmm, let me see...
6-7GB VRAM. The rest, available for the 1080TI, 16GB are idle, right?
The RTX series has a big plus in that it allows you to twist such scenes in almost real time. This saves a lot of time in the viewport when setting the correct light. Hardware raytracing improves performance as if there were a couple additional thousand cuda-cores on the graphics card.

You can 7 char + hair + cloths + env + 2 lights max or a lot emissive light with 8gb (without resizing). It's the most I could do after he crash.
My max:
With this scene + ONE light = crash


Then I don't know where the 16gb comes from, but I don't really want to know.

 

[Enyos]

 

[RelaxArt]

Then I don't know where the 16gb comes from, but I don't really want to know.

But then you die not knowing ) Well, I will not tell you.

 

[iNaJke]

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This one is great, what you used to made her skin look wet?

 

[Enyos]

This one is great, what you used to made her skin look wet?

Long Wet Hair with dforce comes with a couple geoshells (and is what I used there), but there's a couple other good wet skin assets.




For those who would prefer sci-fi...

 

[Larry Kubiac]

But then you die not knowing ) Well, I will not tell you.

IDC, thanks.

 

[MG-Gaming]

I'm generally ably to render 4k images in a reasonable time frame. generally I can do a set of 6 images within the 18-ish hours I work and sleep (don't know the exact render time of course but I limit the time to 4 hours. Which seems fine for most renders. Not unlike my HD renders.

How do you render a 'set'?
I'd love to render stuff overnight so i don't have to sit and wait untill the individual renders are done, but i have no idea how.
How do you get DaZ to render multiple images in succession?

 

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[Mattias 66]

 

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Nice shot. Try to let them look to the cam, so they don´t look like Mannequins. Would make the shot better. Just my opinion ofc.

 

[RelaxArt]

, so they don´t look like Mannequins. Would make the shot better. Just my opinion ofc.

Increased skin gloss. Lips made of plastic. IMHO

 

[RelaxArt]

How do you render a 'set'?
I'd love to render stuff overnight so i don't have to sit and wait untill the individual renders are done, but i have no idea how.
How do you get DaZ to render multiple images in succession?

 

[jankiek]

jeans

 

[DerangedAristocrat]

For the PC issue (almost everyone is having)..

When i did some research on what PC to buy (because my PC is very old and shitty when it comes to dealing with 3d modeling) i came to the conclusion that, CPU and GPU (regardless the software) are for two different things.

GPU is for the modelling and scene creation mostly (i know that some render engines are working with GPU now but still.. memory of GPU's are still an issue), and CPU is for rendering most of the times. So it depends on what you want.

If you need something powerfull to boost up your scene creation, GPU is the way for you to spend more money on. If it is renders and redner time-quality, then CPU is the most important (and RAM of course).

If you want all of these.. i'm guessing 1.5-2.0k give you a descent overall PC. For animation, well... double it i think for an overall PC.

This would have been correct about a year or so ago but even blender is now taking advantage of Nvidia CUDA cores in its latest build and GPU rendering kicks the shit out of CPU rendering now. That's not even taking into consideration other even faster GPU render engine add ons like Octane or E-cycles. GPU tech is progressing much faster for rendering purposes than CPU's ever will be able to, even CPU render farms are starting to be replaced with GPU render farms for smaller projects (I think larger projects like films still use CPU farms for their stability and memory requirements). Get a CPU that can keep up at least but if render quality and time is what you're after then your best bet for now are Nvidia cards. That's not to say AMD won't be more supported by render engines in the future (not Daz iray though) but for now it really seems like that is what Nvidia is trying to lock in place and get the 3D artist crowd as AMD goes more for the gaming side of things.