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dmmt

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hate to admit it, but when I need to raise Social skill; I save before I go...then I save scum each time until I get over 100XP for that AP. Then once I get the 1XX XP, I save, return and spend the 2nd AP, rinse and repeat. So for the 4 AP of relaxing, I'll get between 420 and 550 XP into Social. Even doing that, it can take a long time to raise social. It is by far, the most difficult to raise. And not by a small margin either.

Combat is easy to raise, but be selective. If you are using mods, don't train up your own combat by using bots with wings and tails. Those get damaged in combat training and that's 2 more parts to repair on your bot. That's just wasting your AP..IMHO. Any bot you practice/train in combat; wears on their Eyes, Arms, Legs and Skin. Add Wings and Tails, and you can spend almost 1/2 a day fixing damage from training, vs just most of 1 time period.
 

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dmmt RosX
If you resort to savescumming you might as well change the xp gain.
Go to DSCS\game\mods\0050_base_content\tunings.json
Find xxx_difficulty_mc_xp_rate": {
where xxx=your preferred difficulty
Change "social": x.x, to whatever you want.
It's a multiplier so 1 is baseline, 10 would give 10x xp etc.
 
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dmmt RosX
If you resort to savescumming you might as well change the xp gain.
Go to DSCS\game\mods\0050_base_content\tunings.json
Find xxx_difficulty_mc_xp_rate": {
where xxx=your preferred difficulty
Change "social": x.x, to whatever you want.
It's a multiplier so 1 is baseline, 10 would give 10x xp etc.
Wow, just asking about the gameplay. I know how to change rate, I just didn't know where to get the experience. It's not the same. :)
 

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Wow, just asking about the gameplay. I know how to change rate, I just didn't know where to get the experience. It's not the same. :)
It was not meant as a condescending or insulting reply and I'm sorry if you interpreted it that way.
It was meant more like "if you think the balance is bad that you save scum social xp just change the rate to save your time"
My reply was mostly meant for dmmt but since you said thanks to "slowly...save scumming works 1/2 well....Leave-->RoboClub-->Relax." I figured I might as well include you incase you feel the same way about it.

And for the record:
I don't blame anyone for save-scumming or changing the rate because raising social in the current game is painfully slow compared to the rest of the skills.
 
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Yep, I only save scum the social cause it is S-L-O-W in an almost redefining way. lol And thanks for the info on adjusting the awarded XP. I'll be experimenting with that; and seeing about the rate too. (Rate meaning the frequency where there is no XP award...)

edit: OK, looking at the various JSON files...I don't see where base XP is determined. I can see where under ea difficulty level, a multiplier is applied TO the awarded XP; but I dont see where the awarded XP originates. Am I missing something, or is that "hard coded" in one of the (for lack of a better term) "system" files? (rpy, python, etc)
 
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Yep, I only save scum the social cause it is S-L-O-W in an almost redefining way. lol And thanks for the info on adjusting the awarded XP. I'll be experimenting with that; and seeing about the rate too. (Rate meaning the frequency where there is no XP award...)

edit: OK, looking at the various JSON files...I don't see where base XP is determined. I can see where under ea difficulty level, a multiplier is applied TO the awarded XP; but I dont see where the awarded XP originates. Am I missing something, or is that "hard coded" in one of the (for lack of a better term) "system" files? (rpy, python, etc)
There are many things that are only in the system files. I for example was looking to change the virginity sealing mechanic. Meaning, if sex skills are 0, why seal is broken, or why only one. Conversely if sex skills are > 0 why seal sometimes whole. Well, for the second one I have some explanation - the previous owner's little dick couldn't do the job well. . :)
 
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Yep, I only save scum the social cause it is S-L-O-W in an almost redefining way. lol And thanks for the info on adjusting the awarded XP. I'll be experimenting with that; and seeing about the rate too. (Rate meaning the frequency where there is no XP award...)

edit: OK, looking at the various JSON files...I don't see where base XP is determined. I can see where under ea difficulty level, a multiplier is applied TO the awarded XP; but I dont see where the awarded XP originates. Am I missing something, or is that "hard coded" in one of the (for lack of a better term) "system" files? (rpy, python, etc)
game\modules\0020_dscs\game\locations\robosechs\robosechs_relax.rpy
You'd have to unpack the game rpa, change this file then repack the rpa. Unless someone knows a way to change or override renpy labels with a mod.
Way easier to just change the difficulty xp modifier.
 
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Yeah looked at this at length last night. After running several consecutive time periods of Leave-->Robo6Club-->Relax....I found that better than half the time, there was no XP award at all. Couple that with the default .67 multiplier for Hardcore, and you have a 3 week process to go from D to C, 4-6 weeks, for C to B and I dont wanna talk about B to A to S.

Just gonna have to inflate the multiplier, to account for the frequency of 0 XP being awarded. Probably in the 2.0 to 3.0 range
 

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Yeah looked at this at length last night. After running several consecutive time periods of Leave-->Robo6Club-->Relax....I found that better than half the time, there was no XP award at all. Couple that with the default .67 multiplier for Hardcore, and you have a 3 week process to go from D to C, 4-6 weeks, for C to B and I dont wanna talk about B to A to S.

Just gonna have to inflate the multiplier, to account for the frequency of 0 XP being awarded. Probably in the 2.0 to 3.0 range
I tried leveling earlier just out of curiosity. I think I picked easy difficulty and gave my self 999 AP.
Went to robosechs and auto-clicked relax until I got to social S and it took over 700 AP.

The chance to get xp vs not should be about 50/50:
Python:
label robosechs_relax_mod:
  header "[robosechs] - Relax"
  $xp=randint(-250,250)
  if xp>0:
    ...
    $mc.give_xp("social",xp)
But then you'll get anywhere from 1-250 base xp so chances are you won't get much even if you do get it.
 

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I think I have settled in at 2.20. It appears, it will take 5-6 days to level C to B, or between 80 and 96 AP. I am actually trending toward more 0 XP AP expenditures than getting XP. Maybe 60/40 0 to XXX? Gonna play it at this setting for a bit, and see what happens. I may back it off a little, if I find it suddenly coming to easily. (At the same time, leveling Sex or Combat Skill doesnt take near the same AP expenditure, even including the repairs you have to make to the bot)
 
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